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Reply #30 posted 03/10/07 2:50pm

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AnckSuNamun said:

senik said:




Is that Jenny Lee in your avvie, sometimes referred to as Jennifer Lee or even as Jen Lee on ocacsion smile


The Marigold gloves and Fairy Liquid are under the sink! As detailed... Get to Work! razz







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It's actually Kathleen Hanna who's in my avvie. falloff To quote our great President: "Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again"

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Why you lil' double crossing bluffer! mad mad That's it. From here on I forbid you to use my Mutley GIF anymore mad

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Reply #31 posted 03/10/07 2:52pm

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senik said:

AnckSuNamun said:




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It's actually Kathleen Hanna who's in my avvie. falloff To quote our great President: "Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again"

tease



lol


Why you lil' double crossing bluffer! mad mad That's it. From here on I forbid you to use my Mutley GIF anymore mad

disbelief

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Reply #32 posted 03/10/07 3:06pm

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AnckSuNamun said:

senik said:




lol


Why you lil' double crossing bluffer! mad mad That's it. From here on I forbid you to use my Mutley GIF anymore mad

disbelief

razz

falloff

P.s
I'd do dishes naked for free batting eyes



Reeeeally eek

~Senik shuffles in front of the dishwasher, trying to hide it with his huge ass~

I got a sink full right there batting eyes Leave your hat on... if you want, like confused

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Reply #33 posted 03/10/07 3:55pm

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senik said:

AnckSuNamun said:


falloff

P.s
I'd do dishes naked for free batting eyes



Reeeeally eek

~Senik shuffles in front of the dishwasher, trying to hide it with his huge ass~

I got a sink full right there batting eyes Leave your hat on... if you want, like confused

razz


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Reply #34 posted 03/10/07 11:46pm

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senik said:

Very well taken photographs. You got to feel for the unlucky sods who's place has burn down though sad

To ask the question which somebody asked earlier, was it just right time, right place for those shots or were you called to the scene to accompany the local Fire Department?

Post incident, any idea what caused the blaze or is it depending investigation?
[Edited 3/10/07 8:42am]


In the news biz these guys are called "stringers" - they use police scanners to listen to whats going on & get there to get the shot...
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Reply #35 posted 03/11/07 5:40am

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In the news biz these guys are called "stringers" - they use police scanners to listen to whats going on & get there to get the shot...


Yep she is right. Sorry I was away from this discussion for awhile. I just got in from shooting two Jordis Unga shows in the Minneapolis area. Im beat. Ill go over camera specs later today.

Night all.

Doug
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Reply #36 posted 03/11/07 6:10am

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Reply #37 posted 03/11/07 6:14am

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what i want to know is,how quiet is your town, that a house fire is deemed news worthy.

i wished i lived in a town like that...
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Reply #38 posted 03/11/07 7:59am

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CalhounSq said:

senik said:

Very well taken photographs. You got to feel for the unlucky sods who's place has burn down though sad

To ask the question which somebody asked earlier, was it just right time, right place for those shots or were you called to the scene to accompany the local Fire Department?

Post incident, any idea what caused the blaze or is it depending investigation?
[Edited 3/10/07 8:42am]


In the news biz these guys are called "stringers" - they use police scanners to listen to whats going on & get there to get the shot...




Nice one, CalhounSq. Thanks for that bit of info wink

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Reply #39 posted 03/11/07 5:31pm

wxnut

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what i want to know is,how quiet is your town, that a house fire is deemed news worthy.

i wished i lived in a town like that...


Small enough where you can park right in front of the post office. Leave your car door unlocked, (and running) run in, and maybe there will be one person in line but thats just because they are chatting with the clerk about each others kids and what after school activities they are in.

Small enough that you can walk down any street at 1AM and not even have a thought of becoming a crime victim cross your mind.

Small enough where the word rush hour means waiting for 5 cars at the stop sign at 3rd and main rather than the normal 1 or 2.

But large enough to have a couple fast food joints, a great supermarket, second to none police and fire department, Hospital, Radio Shack and many other nationally known stores.

It really is a great place. Thanks for your post to make me stop and remember how nice my town is.

Doug Raflik
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Reply #40 posted 03/11/07 5:37pm

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You start fires to give you something to photograph? Have I got that right?

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Great pics, Doug.
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Reply #41 posted 03/11/07 5:45pm

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Well you would think there's tons of light (it sure looks like it to the naked eye), but I've lost count of the times I've tried and failed to get good shots with fire and/or a solitary source of artifical light.


Correct. Our eyes are FAR more sensitive than a camera. Knowing your camera and what it is capable of doing helps in extreme conditions like this. As far as settings, I had the camera set at 800 ISO, f/2.8 and was only getting shutter speeds of 1/40th of a second. You need to be pretty calm and shake free at that speed.

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Always when I do that it gets grainy. Look at how black the sky is in the pictures above, mine would look grainy and greyish.


Try this...
Under expose the picture according to your light meter. This will need to be done on the manual settings. Heres why... If you tell the camera you want IT to expose the picture properly, it is going to see all the blackness and think you want to see whats there, causing it to strain to show it, leaving you with a grainy greyish area, not to mention the brighter parts of the picture will now be too bright. If you under expose it (meaning as far as the cameras light meter goes, it will be underexposed) you are fooling the camera into thinking the picture will be under exposed, but in reallity, you are not exposing for the WHOLE picture, rather just what is already lit up. So whats black stays black. I use this same techniuqe for concert photography to isolate the performer and not showing all the crap on stage with them.

Doug
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Reply #42 posted 03/11/07 5:48pm

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I love how the stripes on the firepeople's jackets turn white in the second to the last two shots.




This is caused by the flash. Im not sure why they are made like that. I would assume so a fallen fire fighter can be found easy and fast in a smoke filled room with a flashlight.
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Reply #43 posted 03/11/07 5:51pm

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wxnut said:

retina said:



Well you would think there's tons of light (it sure looks like it to the naked eye), but I've lost count of the times I've tried and failed to get good shots with fire and/or a solitary source of artifical light.


Correct. Our eyes are FAR more sensitive than a camera. Knowing your camera and what it is capable of doing helps in extreme conditions like this. As far as settings, I had the camera set at 800 ISO, f/2.8 and was only getting shutter speeds of 1/40th of a second. You need to be pretty calm and shake free at that speed.

retina said:


Always when I do that it gets grainy. Look at how black the sky is in the pictures above, mine would look grainy and greyish.


Try this...
Under expose the picture according to your light meter. This will need to be done on the manual settings. Heres why... If you tell the camera you want IT to expose the picture properly, it is going to see all the blackness and think you want to see whats there, causing it to strain to show it, leaving you with a grainy greyish area, not to mention the brighter parts of the picture will now be too bright. If you under expose it (meaning as far as the cameras light meter goes, it will be underexposed) you are fooling the camera into thinking the picture will be under exposed, but in reallity, you are not exposing for the WHOLE picture, rather just what is already lit up. So whats black stays black. I use this same techniuqe for concert photography to isolate the performer and not showing all the crap on stage with them.

Doug


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Reply #44 posted 03/11/07 7:31pm

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wxnut said:

retina said:



Well you would think there's tons of light (it sure looks like it to the naked eye), but I've lost count of the times I've tried and failed to get good shots with fire and/or a solitary source of artifical light.


Correct. Our eyes are FAR more sensitive than a camera. Knowing your camera and what it is capable of doing helps in extreme conditions like this. As far as settings, I had the camera set at 800 ISO, f/2.8 and was only getting shutter speeds of 1/40th of a second. You need to be pretty calm and shake free at that speed.

retina said:


Always when I do that it gets grainy. Look at how black the sky is in the pictures above, mine would look grainy and greyish.


Try this...
Under expose the picture according to your light meter. This will need to be done on the manual settings. Heres why... If you tell the camera you want IT to expose the picture properly, it is going to see all the blackness and think you want to see whats there, causing it to strain to show it, leaving you with a grainy greyish area, not to mention the brighter parts of the picture will now be too bright. If you under expose it (meaning as far as the cameras light meter goes, it will be underexposed) you are fooling the camera into thinking the picture will be under exposed, but in reallity, you are not exposing for the WHOLE picture, rather just what is already lit up. So whats black stays black. I use this same techniuqe for concert photography to isolate the performer and not showing all the crap on stage with them.

Doug


Thanks for the info about the settings for the pictures on this thread, and for the other tips as well of course. Very nice of you to take the time to provide that. I guess I'll have to go out and purchase and learn how to use a light meter. sigh I know all this gadgetry is needed to get a good picture, but for someone who started out with photography not for the technical aspects but just for the excitement of capturing a spontaneous moment, it sort of takes the fun out of it. Hopefully I'll get it back when handling some of this stuff becomes more routine.
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Reply #45 posted 03/11/07 7:38pm

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wxnut said:



Try this...
Under expose the picture according to your light meter. This will need to be done on the manual settings. Heres why... If you tell the camera you want IT to expose the picture properly, it is going to see all the blackness and think you want to see whats there, causing it to strain to show it, leaving you with a grainy greyish area, not to mention the brighter parts of the picture will now be too bright. If you under expose it (meaning as far as the cameras light meter goes, it will be underexposed) you are fooling the camera into thinking the picture will be under exposed, but in reallity, you are not exposing for the WHOLE picture, rather just what is already lit up. So whats black stays black. I use this same techniuqe for concert photography to isolate the performer and not showing all the crap on stage with them.

Doug


You're reminding me of my film school education. We were taught to underexpose everything one stop as routine to get darker blacks and more saturation in the colors (working in 16mm film). Scary how much of this information I struggled so hard to learn is slipping out of my mind.
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Reply #46 posted 03/12/07 2:11am

Whateva

wxnut said:

eraclito said:

what i want to know is,how quiet is your town, that a house fire is deemed news worthy.

i wished i lived in a town like that...


Small enough where you can park right in front of the post office. Leave your car door unlocked, (and running) run in, and maybe there will be one person in line but thats just because they are chatting with the clerk about each others kids and what after school activities they are in.

Small enough that you can walk down any street at 1AM and not even have a thought of becoming a crime victim cross your mind.

Small enough where the word rush hour means waiting for 5 cars at the stop sign at 3rd and main rather than the normal 1 or 2.

But large enough to have a couple fast food joints, a great supermarket, second to none police and fire department, Hospital, Radio Shack and many other nationally known stores.

It really is a great place. Thanks for your post to make me stop and remember how nice my town is.

Doug Raflik


mad nobody should leave a car running if not driving it!

sorry, of topic confused

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Reply #47 posted 03/12/07 4:03am

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wxnut said:

eraclito said:

what i want to know is,how quiet is your town, that a house fire is deemed news worthy.

i wished i lived in a town like that...


Small enough where you can park right in front of the post office. Leave your car door unlocked, (and running) run in, and maybe there will be one person in line but thats just because they are chatting with the clerk about each others kids and what after school activities they are in.

Small enough that you can walk down any street at 1AM and not even have a thought of becoming a crime victim cross your mind.

Small enough where the word rush hour means waiting for 5 cars at the stop sign at 3rd and main rather than the normal 1 or 2.

But large enough to have a couple fast food joints, a great supermarket, second to none police and fire department, Hospital, Radio Shack and many other nationally known stores.

It really is a great place. Thanks for your post to make me stop and remember how nice my town is.

Doug Raflik


u can stop bragging now mad



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