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Reply #90 posted 03/03/07 5:03pm

Shanti1

REDFEATHERS said:

Discuss.. hmmm



Looking for a whole heap of trouble here - but should be interesting



Yes and No!!
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Reply #91 posted 03/03/07 5:04pm

REDFEATHERS

Shanti1 said:

REDFEATHERS said:

Discuss.. hmmm



Looking for a whole heap of trouble here - but should be interesting



Yes and No!!



DISCUSS! razz
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Reply #92 posted 03/03/07 5:22pm

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REDFEATHERS said:

CosmicTalk said:



biggrin I thought "weak" was the inspiration for this thread? evillol



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Reply #93 posted 03/03/07 5:34pm

Shanti1

REDFEATHERS said:

Shanti1 said:




Yes and No!!



DISCUSS! razz



Just like with ppl every where - there are smart ones and stupid ones. It happens in every race and gender, nationality and region.
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Reply #94 posted 03/03/07 6:15pm

REDFEATHERS

july said:



Europe is hanging in there.






Thats fucking ugly.. omg
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Reply #95 posted 03/03/07 6:23pm

xplnyrslf

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Europeans more intelligent than Americans? Hell no - just watch a soccer match.


Then again, we have extreme sports where anything goes except for eye gouging.
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Reply #96 posted 03/03/07 6:35pm

xplnyrslf

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In shrot yes.


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Reply #97 posted 03/03/07 6:41pm

Stymie

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All I know is that the Brits seem to know a whole lot more about American politics and even history, than I do.....


M
Yep. The Brits, the Germans and the Dutch.
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Reply #98 posted 03/03/07 6:47pm

REDFEATHERS

Stymie said:

MIGUELGOMEZ said:

All I know is that the Brits seem to know a whole lot more about American politics and even history, than I do.....


M
Yep. The Brits, the Germans and the Dutch.



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Reply #99 posted 03/03/07 6:48pm

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I believe this is an unrational generalization. There are just as many dumb euros as there are ignorant Americans, and there are just as many American Intellectuals as there are Euro sophisticats, I could go on and on about this but, I don't feel like writing a thesis statement cause this is a nasty stereotype that can be answered on so many different levels, on both a negative and positive level.
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Reply #100 posted 03/03/07 6:49pm

xplnyrslf

I don't think Europeans are more intelligent than Americans. They do seem to have perfected the fine art of "vacation time". They have an extraordinary amount of time-off from work. Go to any beach at the height of tourist season (i.e. Greece) and the bathing-suit top is off when actually more clothes should be a requirement when the top is on.
Sometimes their judgement is a little cloudy???
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Reply #101 posted 03/03/07 6:50pm

Stymie

REDFEATHERS said:

Stymie said:

Yep. The Brits, the Germans and the Dutch.



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Nah, not me. Most of what I've learned has come from friends overseas. Not from what they have said alone, but because they cause me to question and research things for myself. I don't particularly feel this country encourages that.
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Reply #102 posted 03/03/07 6:50pm

REDFEATHERS

karmatornado said:

I believe this is an unrational generalization. There are just as many dumb euros as there are ignorant Americans, and there are just as many American Intellectuals as there are Euro sophisticats, I could go on and on about this but, I don't feel like writing a thesis statement cause this is a nasty stereotype that can be answered on so many different levels, on both a negative and positive level.



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Reply #103 posted 03/03/07 6:50pm

Shanti1

karmatornado said:

I believe this is an unrational generalization. There are just as many dumb euros as there are ignorant Americans, and there are just as many American Intellectuals as there are Euro sophisticats, I could go on and on about this but, I don't feel like writing a thesis statement cause this is a nasty stereotype that can be answered on so many different levels, on both a negative and positive level.



Damn you mad

You just said the same thing as I did but with more intelligence!!!
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Reply #104 posted 03/03/07 6:51pm

july

REDFEATHERS said:

july said:



Europe is hanging in there.






Thats fucking ugly.. omg

One of two babies crowned lemurs (Propithecus verreauxi coronatus) born in early January 2007 is seen in this recent photo at the Parc Zoologique de Paris in nearby Vincennes. The birth of the two baby lemurs, part of the European Endangered Species Breeding Programmes, increases the population to ten lemurs in captivity at the Zoo. REUTERS/Francois-Gilles Grandin/PZP-MNHN/Handout (FRANCE).
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Reply #105 posted 03/03/07 6:51pm

REDFEATHERS

xplnyrslf said:

I don't think Europeans are more intelligent than Americans. They do seem to have perfected the fine art of "vacation time". They have an extraordinary amount of time-off from work. Go to any beach at the height of tourist season (i.e. Greece) and the bathing-suit top is off when actually more clothes should be a requirement when the top is on.
Sometimes their judgement is a little cloudy???



WTF you talking about? lol
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Reply #106 posted 03/03/07 6:51pm

july

senik said:

july said:


Central Asia is in a good mood.

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It's actually the "Festival of Colours" today biggrin

woot!

cool

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Reply #107 posted 03/03/07 6:52pm

REDFEATHERS

july said:

REDFEATHERS said:




Thats fucking ugly.. omg

One of two babies crowned lemurs (Propithecus verreauxi coronatus) born in early January 2007 is seen in this recent photo at the Parc Zoologique de Paris in nearby Vincennes. The birth of the two baby lemurs, part of the European Endangered Species Breeding Programmes, increases the population to ten lemurs in captivity at the Zoo. REUTERS/Francois-Gilles Grandin/PZP-MNHN/Handout (FRANCE).



Its still ugly.. lol
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Reply #108 posted 03/03/07 6:54pm

july

karmatornado said:

I believe this is an unrational generalization. There are just as many dumb euros as there are ignorant Americans, and there are just as many American Intellectuals as there are Euro sophisticats, I could go on and on about this but, I don't feel like writing a thesis statement cause this is a nasty stereotype that can be answered on so many different levels, on both a negative and positive level.

Yeah, there r craze mutha fucas everewhere. lurking
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Reply #109 posted 03/03/07 6:54pm

july

REDFEATHERS said:

july said:


One of two babies crowned lemurs (Propithecus verreauxi coronatus) born in early January 2007 is seen in this recent photo at the Parc Zoologique de Paris in nearby Vincennes. The birth of the two baby lemurs, part of the European Endangered Species Breeding Programmes, increases the population to ten lemurs in captivity at the Zoo. REUTERS/Francois-Gilles Grandin/PZP-MNHN/Handout (FRANCE).



Its still ugly.. lol

Yeah, and it's still french. eek
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Reply #110 posted 03/03/07 6:55pm

DorothyParkerW
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REDFEATHERS said:

DorothyParkerWasCool said:

No...I think intelligence in people and their society should be judged on a case by case basis. Besides, what makes one intelligent anyway? Many people that are supposedly so intelligent still don't think through things completely and that holds regardless of what nation state you inhabit. I think there are generalizations on both sides of the fence about who is more or less intelligent and that in itself is a sign of ignorance. Ironically, the majority of the archaic, misguided things Americans believe came from Europe. The difference is there is so much more at play in the economic structure in the states ie, more to lose so the system works overdrive to misled people thus making them seem less intelligent. However, if one is versed on the History, economic, and social make up of all parties involved--you realize there is really not that much of a difference.



yeah ok ok.. but surely you really dont think intelligence can be judged case by case,.. thats shutting yourself off from world awareness..

I mean we are one of the richest countries in the world,, but going by statistics we are the 31st worst country to live in.. that being Britain, so you cant judge on a case by case in this instance.. you gotta be responsible in a bigger spectrum and really see whats happeing in the bigger picture.. IMO


And I think you missed the entire point of my post. Those statistics you mentioned are underscored by a point I spoke on in my initial response. This entire thread is a non-sensical exercise because you cannot factor for intelligence and it is judged case by case. If intelligence isn't judged case by case then one would assume that all graduates of Ivy League schools are intelligent, but then George W. Bush would dispel that theory. Besides what you are talking about has nothing to do with intelligence, its more so dealing with a economic system that produces those results and also about the agenda of those in power. The results are produced not because people are stupid, but because they are led to believe certain things in order to maintain and perpetuate a system. The responsibility, as you call it, that we have as citizens is tied into a power structure and all of us, regardless of our country, are misled by that. If you cannot understand the difference in the set up and make up in different countries I suggest you do more research. There are smart people everywhere and there are ignorant(hence the term ignorant, not stupid) people everywhere. But trying to factor for whose the most intelligent is not only misguided, it's also pointless.

BTW, what criteria are you using to determine who is/isn't the most intelligent? Also, how can you compare Europeans to Americans (and I'm assuming you are talking about the United States), when Europe is a continent made up of a series of countries and the United States is one country? Europe isn't a monolithic entity, there are differences in countries, languages, histories and cultures. Therefore, how can a series of countries that varied be compared to a country, that is equally varied--but nonetheless still a country?
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Reply #111 posted 03/03/07 6:56pm

Fauxie

If pressed, on the whole, yes I do, if we're talking the average intelligence across the US vs. that across Europe. Lacking much more than social interactions and the media as evidence it's ultimately a pretty poorly-informed guess and certainly not an opinion I hold particularly dear to me or one carrying much genuine worth. With so many factors to take into account I would simply say that we can all be held responsible for our own level of intelligence, not that of a whole country or continent (hence offense shouldn't be taken, unless you're a teacher lol ), and while it's certainly possible to put forward an opinion based on your own experiences, it must be done so with an understanding that those experiences are inevitably going to be pretty limited. It's clear there are intelligent and unintelligent folks in both the US and Europe, so all that's left is to either guess or sit on the fence and cite the the impossible demands of the question.

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Reply #112 posted 03/03/07 7:00pm

Shanti1

On a whole I have found that European men are better listeners then ones from America. They also seem to be more polite shrug (except for Karma of coarse...)
Just my observation...
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Reply #113 posted 03/03/07 7:10pm

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Okay here goes a somewhat compressed view of how I feel. World opinion, i.e. european popular opinion would lead you to believe that the United States is too unilateralist, too religious, too warlike, too laissez-faire, too fond of guns and the death penalty, and too addicted to simple solutions for complex problems. So goes the European indictment of American society, and much of the U.S. foreign-policy elite accepts it at something close to face value. This in some cases can be true, but as a whole is a common and all too dangerous misconception. One of the reasons that many euro's believe in the "Ugly American" statement is due to the fact that we are so opposite of european society as a whole, likewise this is why we as Americans tend to be so brash and volatile towards our fellow Euro's, because we don't want to take the time to get to know or understand your culture which is so totally different from ours. Ultimately, the reason our (American) society has worked, thrived and will continue to do so, is we take the best of the euro ideas and morph it into our own. There is a reason, why we are the most culturally diverse nation in the world, and it is not because we are a simpleton nation.
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Reply #114 posted 03/03/07 7:19pm

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Most people are stupid and Europe has about twice the population of the US.

Do the math.

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Reply #115 posted 03/03/07 8:34pm

Imago

Fauxie said:

If pressed, on the whole, yes I do, if we're talking the average intelligence across the US vs. that across Europe. Lacking much more than social interactions and the media as evidence it's ultimately a pretty poorly-informed guess and certainly not an opinion I hold particularly dear to me or one carrying much genuine worth. With so many factors to take into account I would simply say that we can all be held responsible for our own level of intelligence, not that of a whole country or continent (hence offense shouldn't be taken, unless you're a teacher lol ), and while it's certainly possible to put forward an opinion based on your own experiences, it must be done so with an understanding that those experiences are inevitably going to be pretty limited. It's clear there are intelligent and unintelligent folks in both the US and Europe, so all that's left is to either guess or sit on the fence and cite the the impossible demands of the question.

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In short, "yes--Americans are stupid."


Stop being a pussy!
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Reply #116 posted 03/03/07 8:37pm

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Fauxie said:

If pressed, on the whole, yes I do, if we're talking the average intelligence across the US vs. that across Europe.

It's clear there are intelligent and unintelligent folks in both the US and Europe, so all that's left is to either guess or sit on the fence and cite the the impossible demands of the question.



confused



I just don't think you can say on the whole one is more intelligent than the other. At least, I can't. And I'll be pissed at anyone who says they can. So there.
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Reply #117 posted 03/03/07 8:37pm

Fauxie

Imago said:

Fauxie said:

If pressed, on the whole, yes I do, if we're talking the average intelligence across the US vs. that across Europe. Lacking much more than social interactions and the media as evidence it's ultimately a pretty poorly-informed guess and certainly not an opinion I hold particularly dear to me or one carrying much genuine worth. With so many factors to take into account I would simply say that we can all be held responsible for our own level of intelligence, not that of a whole country or continent (hence offense shouldn't be taken, unless you're a teacher lol ), and while it's certainly possible to put forward an opinion based on your own experiences, it must be done so with an understanding that those experiences are inevitably going to be pretty limited. It's clear there are intelligent and unintelligent folks in both the US and Europe, so all that's left is to either guess or sit on the fence and cite the the impossible demands of the question.

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In short, "yes--Americans are stupid."


Stop being a pussy!


I didn't want to half offend you. boxed

Note: The other half would've been too stupid to be offended. razz

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Reply #118 posted 03/03/07 8:38pm

2the9s

Plus, within America it is well known that Floridians are the bottom of the barrel!
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Reply #119 posted 03/03/07 8:41pm

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I am sure that the fact that George "Dumbyah" Bush was elected and then RE-elected to the highest post in the nation has gone a long way towards tarnishing our image.

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