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Reply #30 posted 02/27/07 7:14pm

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People who constantly say "there is no hope for me" are right and they will indeed be single for life.

If you feel that's just the way it's really gonna be, you should just accept it and not complain.

I'm thinking that you are doing this to yourself.

My guess is that this defeatist attitude you have weighs heavily on the way you present yourself and I have to say that this kind of attitude is not attractive to women at all.
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Reply #31 posted 02/27/07 8:02pm

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JustErin said:

People who constantly say "there is no hope for me" are right and they will indeed be single for life.

If you feel that's just the way it's really gonna be, you should just accept it and not complain.

I'm thinking that you are doing this to yourself.

My guess is that this defeatist attitude you have weighs heavily on the way you present yourself and I have to say that this kind of attitude is not attractive to women at all.


That's a bit harsh, but it's exactly what I'm saying, and from a woman's perspective. It's all about attitude.

Be desperate & depressed, just don't act that way.
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Reply #32 posted 02/27/07 8:10pm

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NDRU said:

JustErin said:

People who constantly say "there is no hope for me" are right and they will indeed be single for life.

If you feel that's just the way it's really gonna be, you should just accept it and not complain.

I'm thinking that you are doing this to yourself.

My guess is that this defeatist attitude you have weighs heavily on the way you present yourself and I have to say that this kind of attitude is not attractive to women at all.


That's a bit harsh, but it's exactly what I'm saying, and from a woman's perspective. It's all about attitude.

Be desperate & depressed, just don't act that way.


Well, I don't think it was harsh. I actually toned it down a little.

My intention was not to be mean, but really...I am just telling him what 99.99% of women think about wallowers.

And that's exactly how he is coming off, as someone that just wallows in his sorrows.

shrug
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Reply #33 posted 02/28/07 3:44am

ZombieKitten

I wonder if you haven't written off a potential girl friends before you have even had the chance to get to know them.

hmmm
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Reply #34 posted 02/28/07 4:39am

SureThing

I was celibate for 2 months just recently.

From the end of Septhember till the end of November.

After that ordeal, its kinda weird to have sex with an ACTUAL person again.

Good Luck!
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Reply #35 posted 02/28/07 5:47am

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SureThing said:

I was celibate for 2 months just recently.

From the end of Septhember till the end of November.

After that ordeal, its kinda weird to have sex with an ACTUAL person again.

Good Luck!


your avatar threw me off, i thought dan was saying that.

giggle
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Reply #36 posted 02/28/07 5:49am

SureThing

cborgman said:

SureThing said:

I was celibate for 2 months just recently.

From the end of Septhember till the end of November.

After that ordeal, its kinda weird to have sex with an ACTUAL person again.

Good Luck!


your avatar threw me off, i thought dan was saying that.

giggle



HAHAH
Time for a new one.
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Reply #37 posted 02/28/07 5:58am

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SureThing said:

cborgman said:



your avatar threw me off, i thought dan was saying that.

giggle



HAHAH
Time for a new one.


Are you ok with your sizing?

Signed,

Concerned Friend
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Reply #38 posted 02/28/07 6:00am

SureThing

JustErin said:

SureThing said:




HAHAH
Time for a new one.


Are you ok with your sizing?

Signed,

Concerned Friend



rolleyes

I did something totally mentally retarded that is gonna make me look like a stupid bitch this morning, with out even meaning too.

sigh

Orgnote coming.
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Reply #39 posted 02/28/07 7:12am

Ace

Who says you need a partner or shagging?
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Reply #40 posted 02/28/07 7:15am

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Ace said:

Who says you need a partner or shagging?


His genitals say, that's who.
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Reply #41 posted 02/28/07 7:19am

SureThing

Ace said:

Who says you need a partner or shagging?



Yeah, I actually enjoyed my celabacy.

Sometimes, other people just get in the way. rolleyes
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Reply #42 posted 02/28/07 7:20am

Ace

JustErin said:

Ace said:

Who says you need a partner or shagging?


His genitals say, that's who.

Couldn't he just rub one out? shrug
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Reply #43 posted 02/28/07 7:21am

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JustErin said:

People who constantly say "there is no hope for me" are right and they will indeed be single for life.

If you feel that's just the way it's really gonna be, you should just accept it and not complain.

I'm thinking that you are doing this to yourself.

My guess is that this defeatist attitude you have weighs heavily on the way you present yourself and I have to say that this kind of attitude is not attractive to women at all.


Believe me, I don't want to be single, and I certainly don't feel comfortable being a wallower. But when you have girls either hooking up with other people, in fact every pretty girl you see, that makes it a bit difficult for you.

My Mother says there's plenty of single girls out there who would kill to be with a man like me.

lol Who is she trying to fool?

I tried being Prince Charming (no, not the Adam Ant version tease), I tried to be the nicest, sweeting person. But that only gets me so far. I don't find it difficult meeting and talking to girls. But I guess they only see me as friendship material. And when I try to break the ice and take it further, they always bring the subject of "their boyfriends", or in some cases, "girlfriends". rolleyes
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Reply #44 posted 02/28/07 7:35am

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NWF said:

JustErin said:

People who constantly say "there is no hope for me" are right and they will indeed be single for life.

If you feel that's just the way it's really gonna be, you should just accept it and not complain.

I'm thinking that you are doing this to yourself.

My guess is that this defeatist attitude you have weighs heavily on the way you present yourself and I have to say that this kind of attitude is not attractive to women at all.


Believe me, I don't want to be single, and I certainly don't feel comfortable being a wallower. But when you have girls either hooking up with other people, in fact every pretty girl you see, that makes it a bit difficult for you.

My Mother says there's plenty of single girls out there who would kill to be with a man like me.

lol Who is she trying to fool?

I tried being Prince Charming (no, not the Adam Ant version tease), I tried to be the nicest, sweeting person. But that only gets me so far. I don't find it difficult meeting and talking to girls. But I guess they only see me as friendship material. And when I try to break the ice and take it further, they always bring the subject of "their boyfriends", or in some cases, "girlfriends". rolleyes


Like I said already, there lies your problem.

I understand being frustrated and all, but having the attitude that it's just hopeless pretty much guarantees hopelessness.

I guess I just have a hard time understanding why this isn't happening for you...unless you are some kinda social misfit....which you don't appear to be.

Are you awkward around women? Do they make you feel insecure or uncomfortable?

I mean, even shy guys get laid.
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Reply #45 posted 02/28/07 7:53am

NWF

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NWF said:



Yeah but these days a lot of girls are so superficial. Yeah there's deeper virtues about me like booksmarts and stuff. But I don't really have much money and the nice ride. So that makes me a little less marketable.


STOP MAKING EXCUSES!!


lol


ok, I had to throw that out there. If you're the little guy, you're always gonna have to try harder. That's just life. It's not going to be handed to you on a silver platter. I'm lazy, I'm overweight, I'm insecure a lot of the time, I don't have a college degree, I'm certainly not conventionally attractive, I don't give a shit about sports and I can still manage to get dates. I'm also fun and smart and cute and have great taste. Play to your strengths, you know you have them. And maybe your standards are a bit too high. Try asking anyone out. Anyone. And just see how it goes. Even if you have a bad time once, you're at least getting experience.

A little tip - most women don't really care about cars and money. At least, I can only think of one female friend of mine for whom that's an issue. If you're happy with your life and what you're doing and have some direction the rest of the material crap doesn't really matter. And if that's all that's important to her, she's not a good fit for you anyway, so find someone else who is.


It's not that I'm necessarily making excuses for myself. I'm just keeping it real and staing the facts of the matter. Yeah, I know I could play on my strengths (bookworm, singer, songwriter, musician, New Wave ambassador, etc.), but they haven't really gotten me that far. I play in a Rock/Funk band and so far I don't have any female fans of any significance. The female lead singer gets more female fans than I do. That says a lot.

Another thing is that when you live in a city like New York, economics does kinda play a role in relationships. Most girls here tend to gravitate to the fellas that are successful in what they do. Yeah, some of them may care more about what's in their hearts rather than what's in their wallets. But there's a certain mentality here in NY that girls pick up on. And it sucks for guys like me since I have a good heart but not much money.
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Reply #46 posted 02/28/07 8:25am

NWF

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JustErin said:

Are you awkward around women? Do they make you feel insecure or uncomfortable?

I mean, even shy guys get laid.


It depends on who. If it's a girl that I immediately don't fancy, then I'm alright. But if it's a girl for whom I have an unrequited love, then yeah I do feel bashful and awkward sometimes. But I never ask if they're in a relationship or I never try to hit on them. What's the point if 9 times out of 10 they're already spoken for?

You know, I've been let down so many times now to the point where I find it hard trusting people. Not just women, but people in general. So if a girl is trying to keep it real with me, I question it. Are they doing it out of sincerity or are they just trying to be nice but with another agenda in mind?




whistle "Wish I had the charm to attract the one I love, but you see, I've got no charm....."
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Reply #47 posted 02/28/07 8:27am

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So I was right. You do it to yourself.
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Reply #48 posted 02/28/07 8:32am

NWF

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JustErin said:

So I was right. You do it to yourself.


Oh, so that's how you see this? Me doing it to myself?
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Reply #49 posted 02/28/07 8:36am

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NWF said:

JustErin said:

So I was right. You do it to yourself.


Oh, so that's how you see this? Me doing it to myself?


I have to agree. You said yourself, you've given up. You don't even ask. You just assume they aren't interested or are already with someone else.

You won't know unless you try.
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Reply #50 posted 02/28/07 8:38am

SureThing

Lets just get to the point.

What do you look like?

Post your picture.
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Reply #51 posted 02/28/07 8:39am

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SureThing said:

Lets just get to the point.

What do you look like?

Post your picture.


lol

He's totally cute. Check out his profile pic. smile
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Reply #52 posted 02/28/07 8:42am

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NWF said:

JustErin said:

So I was right. You do it to yourself.


Oh, so that's how you see this? Me doing it to myself?


Well, of course.

The whole "me against the world" attitude is kinda sad, imho.

You're blaming everyone else for the situation you are in when you need to take a good hard look at yourself.

From what you have posted on here, your attitude is, well, there's no point really because I don't trust them, they won't like me or they're taken.

Your assumptions are what's preventing you from getting what it is you're looking for.

It's like this. People who do not carry these assumptions around with them are more successful than those that do carry them around.

C'est facile.
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Reply #53 posted 02/28/07 8:43am

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CarrieMpls said:

NWF said:



Oh, so that's how you see this? Me doing it to myself?


I have to agree. You said yourself, you've given up. You don't even ask. You just assume they aren't interested or are already with someone else.

You won't know unless you try.


Yeah I could try, but more than likely I'll only get shot down again. Maybe it is an assumption, but.....shrug It just seems like a lost cause to me now.


It's kinda like when I applied for this temp position a couple of years ago. The agent said there was nothing for me at the moment, but suggested I keep in touch. It had to be at least 6 or 7 months where I kept calling this agency for work, but the guy was never available. But when he did reply he still didn't have anything for me. It was basically a lost cause dealing with them.
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Reply #54 posted 02/28/07 8:57am

NWF

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JustErin said:

NWF said:



Oh, so that's how you see this? Me doing it to myself?


Well, of course.

The whole "me against the world" attitude is kinda sad, imho.

You're blaming everyone else for the situation you are in when you need to take a good hard look at yourself.

From what you have posted on here, your attitude is, well, there's no point really because I don't trust them, they won't like me or they're taken.

Your assumptions are what's preventing you from getting what it is you're looking for.

It's like this. People who do not carry these assumptions around with them are more successful than those that do carry them around.

C'est facile.


Yes, there area always things about me that I can improve, but it's not like there's anything majorly wrong with me. I don't drink, smoke, do drugs and I'm obviously not promiscuous. I try and be a good person to all.

But if you have tried being your own sweet self in the face of women and you just end up being let down, and if it's consistent, you do develop an exterior ridden with cynicism and bitterness.

Some of this attitude also came from the end result of my last relationship. The damn girl didn't even wanna kiss me in public!! What the hell!!! hmm
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Reply #55 posted 02/28/07 9:03am

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NWF said:

JustErin said:



Well, of course.

The whole "me against the world" attitude is kinda sad, imho.

You're blaming everyone else for the situation you are in when you need to take a good hard look at yourself.

From what you have posted on here, your attitude is, well, there's no point really because I don't trust them, they won't like me or they're taken.

Your assumptions are what's preventing you from getting what it is you're looking for.

It's like this. People who do not carry these assumptions around with them are more successful than those that do carry them around.

C'est facile.


Yes, there area always things about me that I can improve, but it's not like there's anything majorly wrong with me. I don't drink, smoke, do drugs and I'm obviously not promiscuous. I try and be a good person to all.

But if you have tried being your own sweet self in the face of women and you just end up being let down, and if it's consistent, you do develop an exterior ridden with cynicism and bitterness.

Some of this attitude also came from the end result of my last relationship. The damn girl didn't even wanna kiss me in public!! What the hell!!! hmm


You just don't get it.

Your lifestyle choices will never make up for who you are as a person. As a person, you appear to be jaded, naive, insecure and defeated.

Women can spot that shit a mile away and no one wants to be with someone like this. I mean, can you blame them? Would you want a woman like that?

Rejection is part of life, man. You are no different than anyone else in that respect. Your difference lies in the way you have chosen to deal with it.
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Reply #56 posted 02/28/07 9:22am

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JustErin said:

NWF said:



Yes, there area always things about me that I can improve, but it's not like there's anything majorly wrong with me. I don't drink, smoke, do drugs and I'm obviously not promiscuous. I try and be a good person to all.

But if you have tried being your own sweet self in the face of women and you just end up being let down, and if it's consistent, you do develop an exterior ridden with cynicism and bitterness.

Some of this attitude also came from the end result of my last relationship. The damn girl didn't even wanna kiss me in public!! What the hell!!! hmm


You just don't get it.

Your lifestyle choices will never make up for who you are as a person. As a person, you appear to be jaded, naive, insecure and defeated.

Women can spot that shit a mile away and no one wants to be with someone like this. I mean, can you blame them? Would you want a woman like that?

Rejection is part of life, man. You are no different than anyone else in that respect. Your difference lies in the way you have chosen to deal with it.


Oh no, I get what you're saying. I'm just stating the way that I'm feeling at the moment. But you know that may change over time. At the moment however I feel hopeless and it's something that I have to deal with. I don't want to feel this way. No one ever does. I think we all as humans desire to be with someone and be happy along the way. But I've still got some work to do in understanding and bettering myself. Rejection in certain areas is something I don't take lightly. But I would like to get past that.

But at this point to be happy in a relationship is not normal to me, whatever normal means.
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Reply #57 posted 02/28/07 9:22am

Ace

You're a good-looking dude.

To get what you think you want, here's my advice:

1. Know this.
2. Burn your Morrissey records.
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Reply #58 posted 02/28/07 9:25am

NWF

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Ace said:

You're a good-looking dude.

To get what you think you want, here's my advice:

1. Know this.
2. Burn your Morrissey records.


But I like Morrissey lol

In fact, I'm listening to "Viva Hate" right now. music It's a beautifully crafted album.
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Reply #59 posted 02/28/07 9:29am

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I certainly hope you ladies out there aren't thinking less of me. batting eyes


This is just the way it's been going for me as an involuntarily celibate person. I still am who I am and I still have the same virtues and values and stuff.

But you know, even New Wave lovers have problems too. wink
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