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Thread started 02/18/07 7:21pm

BobGeorge909

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Doin it YET AGAIN...goddamn ciggarettes

Yep...quitting smoking again. I fuckin hate that shit. Cost 2 DAMN MUCH! fuckin' stinks....kills my lungs...I gotta leave room for weed 2 do that on an occasional basis.

Once I click "Save New Topic" I will again b a non-smoker.

As I currently stand, smoking is ONLY a strike against me. It didn't get me in the current mess I'm in...and I'm not sure if it would help the mess or not...either way I look at it...it's a strike against me. And I got enuff strikes. Crimony...this is gonna be tuff.

Which is why I'm posting this here. 2 Give myself some sense of accountability. I will visit the thread at least daily to give an update 4 2 months and promise to b honest. I really don't have a reason to lie about this here. Hopefully people visit and help a brotha out...lol..
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Reply #1 posted 02/18/07 7:25pm

Imago

smoking is nasty.

I did it for years and quit about 7 years ago.
I'm sooooo glad I did.


Just do it. You'll be glad in a few months.
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Reply #2 posted 02/18/07 7:28pm

BobGeorge909

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I'm thinking I should change the title of the thread. I might get more visitors...lol...didn't sound offensive when I said it in my head...but it sho did look offensive...oops...
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Reply #3 posted 02/18/07 7:30pm

Imago

BobGeorge909 said:

I'm thinking I should change the title of the thread. I might get more visitors...lol...didn't sound offensive when I said it in my head...but it sho did look offensive...oops...



yeah, it is way too foul edit
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Reply #4 posted 02/18/07 7:39pm

BobGeorge909

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Imago said:

BobGeorge909 said:

I'm thinking I should change the title of the thread. I might get more visitors...lol...didn't sound offensive when I said it in my head...but it sho did look offensive...oops...



The fags are totally going to come down hard on you when they login! no no no!



that's way to foul in way to many ways!
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Reply #5 posted 02/18/07 7:39pm

Mach

woot! good luck rose
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Reply #6 posted 02/18/07 7:42pm

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rolleyes my post disappeared when you edited

i'll let you read for yourselves instead of paraphrasing cost

The economic costs of smoking are high before we even begin to tally the direct out of pocket costs. But let's do that tallying now. An old buddy of mine - I'll call him Barney - smokes one-and-a-half to two packs of cigarettes a day, by his own admission. Barney doesn't buy his cigarettes by the carton, since he is concerned that he'd smoke more if he had two hundred cigarettes open in front of him all at once. He figures that the fact that each pack of cigarettes is a discrete sale might mitigate his consumption. I think he's just in denial, and he just doesn't think of himself as a heavy, buy-‘em-by-the-carton kinda guy.

Barney has to pay about $12 per day in order to consume one-and-a-half packs of cigarettes. That's $4,380 per year. Now, here's the kicker. Barney makes about $60,000 per year, which means that he's in the 31 percent tax bracket in B.C. That is, for every taxable dollar Barney earns above about $36,380, he has to send thirty-one cents off to the Canada Revenue Agency. That means that in order for Barney to have $4,380 to spend on smokes, he has to earn more than $6,300. This, you will notice, is more than ten percent of Barney's annual gross income! Barney has opted to allocate ten percent of his gross income on an activity that will indirectly consume still more financial resources, destroy his health, and make him generally smelly to be around.


woot! give yourself a 10% raise!
doveShe couldn't stop crying 'cause she knew he was gone to stay dove
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Reply #7 posted 02/18/07 7:55pm

WillyWonka

Good luck. You can do it. biggrin
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Reply #8 posted 02/18/07 8:01pm

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emm said:

rolleyes my post disappeared when you edited

i'll let you read for yourselves instead of paraphrasing cost

The economic costs of smoking are high before we even begin to tally the direct out of pocket costs. But let's do that tallying now. An old buddy of mine - I'll call him Barney - smokes one-and-a-half to two packs of cigarettes a day, by his own admission. Barney doesn't buy his cigarettes by the carton, since he is concerned that he'd smoke more if he had two hundred cigarettes open in front of him all at once. He figures that the fact that each pack of cigarettes is a discrete sale might mitigate his consumption. I think he's just in denial, and he just doesn't think of himself as a heavy, buy-‘em-by-the-carton kinda guy.

Barney has to pay about $12 per day in order to consume one-and-a-half packs of cigarettes. That's $4,380 per year. Now, here's the kicker. Barney makes about $60,000 per year, which means that he's in the 31 percent tax bracket in B.C. That is, for every taxable dollar Barney earns above about $36,380, he has to send thirty-one cents off to the Canada Revenue Agency. That means that in order for Barney to have $4,380 to spend on smokes, he has to earn more than $6,300. This, you will notice, is more than ten percent of Barney's annual gross income! Barney has opted to allocate ten percent of his gross income on an activity that will indirectly consume still more financial resources, destroy his health, and make him generally smelly to be around.


woot! give yourself a 10% raise!




SWEET!!!!


sorry about the edit thing though...I didn't know. sad
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Reply #9 posted 02/18/07 8:02pm

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WillyWonka said:

Good luck. You can do it. biggrin



THANX WILLY!!!
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Reply #10 posted 02/18/07 8:25pm

Fauxie

You and me both brother.

I've been smoking for just over 2 years and have twice quit for 6 weeks, a few times for a week and many a time for a couple of days. I'm just starting again this morning and I'm going to try to make this one stick. I hate everything about it, the smell, the cost (they're cheaper here, but still, the money would pay the monthly power bill and then some), the health risks, so it must only be my willpower holding me back. I was out on the balcony late last night having a cigarette and started thinking about what my lungs might look like right now. I figured 2 years is bad, but not as bad as it could be if I don't stop. If I sort it out right now and get myself healthy I figure I can stop this from hurting my future health too much. I've already cut down on alcohol a lot so this is the next step. I'd cut down to 50 cans (330ml) a month of beer, but now I'm limiting myself to just 25 a month. That's nothing really. Now for the cigarettes.

You can do it BG. nod
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Reply #11 posted 02/18/07 8:27pm

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Fauxie said:

You and me both brother.

I've been smoking for just over 2 years and have twice quit for 6 weeks, a few times for a week and many a time for a couple of days. I'm just starting again this morning and I'm going to try to make this one stick. I hate everything about it, the smell, the cost (they're cheaper here, but still, the money would pay the monthly power bill and then some), the health risks, so it must only be my willpower holding me back. I was out on the balcony late last night having a cigarette and started thinking about what my lungs might look like right now. I figured 2 years is bad, but not as bad as it could be if I don't stop. If I sort it out right now and get myself healthy I figure I can stop this from hurting my future health too much. I've already cut down on alcohol a lot so this is the next step. I'd cut down to 50 cans (330ml) a month of beer, but now I'm limiting myself to just 25 a month. That's nothing really. Now for the cigarettes.

You can do it BG. nod


we'll stand shoulder to shoulder on this!
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Reply #12 posted 02/18/07 11:02pm

SammiJ

you and i both know you can do this...just stay active, any buy lots of tootsiepops biggrin

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Reply #13 posted 02/18/07 11:05pm

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SammiJ said:

you and i both know you can do this...just stay active, any buy lots of tootsiepops biggrin

rose hug



we'll see...
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Reply #14 posted 02/18/07 11:38pm

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emm said:

rolleyes my post disappeared when you edited

i'll let you read for yourselves instead of paraphrasing cost

The economic costs of smoking are high before we even begin to tally the direct out of pocket costs. But let's do that tallying now. An old buddy of mine - I'll call him Barney - smokes one-and-a-half to two packs of cigarettes a day, by his own admission. Barney doesn't buy his cigarettes by the carton, since he is concerned that he'd smoke more if he had two hundred cigarettes open in front of him all at once. He figures that the fact that each pack of cigarettes is a discrete sale might mitigate his consumption. I think he's just in denial, and he just doesn't think of himself as a heavy, buy-‘em-by-the-carton kinda guy.

Barney has to pay about $12 per day in order to consume one-and-a-half packs of cigarettes. That's $4,380 per year. Now, here's the kicker. Barney makes about $60,000 per year, which means that he's in the 31 percent tax bracket in B.C. That is, for every taxable dollar Barney earns above about $36,380, he has to send thirty-one cents off to the Canada Revenue Agency. That means that in order for Barney to have $4,380 to spend on smokes, he has to earn more than $6,300. This, you will notice, is more than ten percent of Barney's annual gross income! Barney has opted to allocate ten percent of his gross income on an activity that will indirectly consume still more financial resources, destroy his health, and make him generally smelly to be around.


woot! give yourself a 10% raise!


Lord know I need it...
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Reply #15 posted 02/19/07 3:46am

mrdespues

I quit again a few months ago. Hate to say it, but life doesn't get much easier when you stop smoking... once you're truly done though and your body/mind begins to breathe and the "I'm slowly killing myself, blreeaaargh" thing goes away it's certainly one less thing to concern yourself with!

Best of luck!

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Reply #16 posted 02/19/07 3:56am

mrdespues

Okay I'm gonna get all zen here, but I think - as an ex-smoker - one of the common reasons people do it is cause they're looking for some expansive feeling outside of themselves? That "ahhhhh" moment. When the irony is that that really comes first from an inner search and sometimes just taking things as they come. Also because smoking actually makes you feel worse because it's full of paint stripper, blah blah blah... I know I could be hated for saying that kind of 'lecturing'... but really, now.

mr.green
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Reply #17 posted 02/19/07 5:11am

Fauxie

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Okay I'm gonna get all zen here, but I think - as an ex-smoker - one of the common reasons people do it is cause they're looking for some expansive feeling outside of themselves? That "ahhhhh" moment. When the irony is that that really comes first from an inner search and sometimes just taking things as they come. Also because smoking actually makes you feel worse because it's full of paint stripper, blah blah blah... I know I could be hated for saying that kind of 'lecturing'... but really, now.

mr.green


It's all that which has me trying to quit. I feel like I've several things in my life just where I want them (some spiritual things, behaviour, discipline, simple stuff like moderation with alcohol), but cigarettes seem to be a barrier to really pushing on through. While I'm smoking there seems little point in trying to keep fit, and spiritual matters seem just as pointless. There are many things I feel I can't even contemplate starting until I first at least stop smoking this awful crap. I'm buoyed by how disciplined (and easily, in a natural way) I'm being with alcohol, drinking far less and never on the spur of the moment owing to some perceived stress or flimsy justification. This time I think I have a real chance of putting the cigs to rest once and for all.
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Reply #18 posted 02/19/07 5:35am

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Fauxie said:

mrdespues said:

Okay I'm gonna get all zen here, but I think - as an ex-smoker - one of the common reasons people do it is cause they're looking for some expansive feeling outside of themselves? That "ahhhhh" moment. When the irony is that that really comes first from an inner search and sometimes just taking things as they come. Also because smoking actually makes you feel worse because it's full of paint stripper, blah blah blah... I know I could be hated for saying that kind of 'lecturing'... but really, now.

mr.green


It's all that which has me trying to quit. I feel like I've several things in my life just where I want them (some spiritual things, behaviour, discipline, simple stuff like moderation with alcohol), but cigarettes seem to be a barrier to really pushing on through. While I'm smoking there seems little point in trying to keep fit, and spiritual matters seem just as pointless. There are many things I feel I can't even contemplate starting until I first at least stop smoking this awful crap. I'm buoyed by how disciplined (and easily, in a natural way) I'm being with alcohol, drinking far less and never on the spur of the moment owing to some perceived stress or flimsy justification. This time I think I have a real chance of putting the cigs to rest once and for all.


hey nick. wave

i really feel you on this one. you're echoing a lot of things i used to get frustrated about.

but then i got a recurring pain in my chest (which turned out fine) and i just decided the risk was far too great to make any more excuses and i just had to put up with the withdrawal, bite the bullet and endure it until the disease of smoking passed. how do you do that, though? it's so difficult to quit the most addictive drug in the world, right? well, i highly recommend hypnosis of any kind... past life regression if you're into it... whatever.. it at least gives you a kick start in the right direction... anything to get you back to your healthy CENTRE in a deeply relaxed state and then you can learn how to get back there quite easily with practise. also, hate to say it but you pretty much have to avoid other smokers... this is tough for me these days still, because some of my friends still smoke and i've always had a weakness for weed... but you gotta stay strong! smile you have as much right as anyone to be on this planet being as healthy and living the life you truly want, as much as anyone else. and like you're saying, smoking (any addiction, really) is always going to be a hindrance to that.

all the best with it.. recommend you don't let it get to chest pains before you quit though -- yeah it turned out fine but like my doctor said, of course i still did some damage already!

peace
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Reply #19 posted 02/19/07 5:40am

SureThing

Quitting smoking really really sucks. But you can do it.

I was a smoker for 11 years, and quit 2 years ago.

Honestly the hardest thing I ever did, and I still miss smoking. When were out with friends, I get a craving and I did smoke a ciggie when me and my husband were seperated a couple months ago.

I hated it.

It stinks. Who wants to smell like ash tray?

I AM EXTREMELY HAPPY that I quit, and its the best thing you can do for yourself.

If you find yourself in a tough craving, orgnote me. I'll send ya a picture of my Dad while he was dying a slow miserable death. biggrin

YOU CAN DO IT!!!!
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Reply #20 posted 02/19/07 5:52am

Imago

SureThing said:

Quitting smoking really really sucks. But you can do it.

I was a smoker for 11 years, and quit 2 years ago.

Honestly the hardest thing I ever did, and I still miss smoking. When were out with friends, I get a craving and I did smoke a ciggie when me and my husband were seperated a couple months ago.

I hated it.

It stinks. Who wants to smell like ash tray?

I AM EXTREMELY HAPPY that I quit, and its the best thing you can do for yourself.

If you find yourself in a tough craving, orgnote me. I'll send ya a picture of my Dad while he was dying a slow miserable death. biggrin

YOU CAN DO IT!!!!



You know it's funny, but I still see kids doing it today. And you can tell that they think it looks "cool" or fashionable to do it.


It's funny how time and age changes that perspective. There is a local bar located right next to my gym if you can beleive that. And the dichotomy between the healthy, vibrant looking folks walking into the gym, and the aged looking, gray-skinned, wrinkled faced, folks walking into the bar puffing on cigarettes, is both amusing and deeply sad.

Smoking constricts the blood flow not only of the veins that supply oxygen to your heart and vital organs, but also to your skin. This causes the skin to dull and look gray and prematurely old. Eventually smokers look just plain awful.
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Reply #21 posted 02/19/07 5:57am

SureThing

Imago said:

SureThing said:

Quitting smoking really really sucks. But you can do it.

I was a smoker for 11 years, and quit 2 years ago.

Honestly the hardest thing I ever did, and I still miss smoking. When were out with friends, I get a craving and I did smoke a ciggie when me and my husband were seperated a couple months ago.

I hated it.

It stinks. Who wants to smell like ash tray?

I AM EXTREMELY HAPPY that I quit, and its the best thing you can do for yourself.

If you find yourself in a tough craving, orgnote me. I'll send ya a picture of my Dad while he was dying a slow miserable death. biggrin

YOU CAN DO IT!!!!



You know it's funny, but I still see kids doing it today. And you can tell that they think it looks "cool" or fashionable to do it.


It's funny how time and age changes that perspective. There is a local bar located right next to my gym if you can beleive that. And the dichotomy between the healthy, vibrant looking folks walking into the gym, and the aged looking, gray-skinned, wrinkled faced, folks walking into the bar puffing on cigarettes, is both amusing and deeply sad.

Smoking constricts the blood flow not only of the veins that supply oxygen to your heart and vital organs, but also to your skin. This causes the skin to dull and look gray and prematurely old. Eventually smokers look just plain awful.



Yeah, I started smoking to become thin. lol I was 13. confused My parents both smoked, and I think that is a part of it. If your raised in a stale smelling smoke infested house, you donm't realize how bad it actually smells when your doing it.

I'm glad my kids aren't going to have to go to school smelling like an ash tray. Like me and my brother did.

And yes, smokers look like shit.
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Reply #22 posted 02/19/07 9:10am

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woot!

Good luck!

(Hey, Carrie, how are you MPLS non-smokers doing with this?)
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HereToRockYourWorld said:

woot!

Good luck!

(Hey, Carrie, how are you MPLS non-smokers doing with this?)


Yeah, I'm basically a smoker again.

I will try to quit again soon. I'm going to see a doctor about getting some drugs to help me.


Darin and Denton are still non-smokers, though. woot!
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Reply #24 posted 02/19/07 9:19am

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CarrieMpls said:

HereToRockYourWorld said:

woot!

Good luck!

(Hey, Carrie, how are you MPLS non-smokers doing with this?)


Yeah, I'm basically a smoker again.

I will try to quit again soon. I'm going to see a doctor about getting some drugs to help me.


Darin and Denton are still non-smokers, though. woot!


Ah, sorry to hear it. Well, Welbutrin is pretty good stuff. thumbs up!

Glad the guys are hanging in there. nod
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Reply #25 posted 02/19/07 10:02am

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i'm quitting, too. i've had it - i've been coughing like crazy from a head cold, and the ciggies are just making it this much worse.
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Reply #26 posted 02/19/07 11:28am

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HereToRockYourWorld said:

woot!

Good luck!

(Hey, Carrie, how are you MPLS non-smokers doing with this?)



thanks
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Reply #27 posted 02/19/07 11:34am

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hopefully this thread can help ALL who want to quit, at least a little. a little inspiration goes a looooong way!
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Reply #28 posted 02/19/07 12:36pm

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let the irritability.....


..... BEGIN!
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Reply #29 posted 02/19/07 1:42pm

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BobGeorge909 said:

let the irritability.....


..... BEGIN!


I've only had 3 cigarettes today and I was murder pissy at work. lol
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