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Cancer Cancer
It surrounds my life, marks my highs and lows. It confuses me, inspires me, angers me and leaves me in awe. It sets targets for me each morning and gives me nightmares while I sleep. I laugh at its vulnerability under my control and cry as it merciless takes another victim, my friend. I sit on the org, another person dies. I waste time at work, another person dies. I daydream, another person dies. Someone else’s mother, someone else’s friend. It amazes me how many people this disease touches, directly and indirectly. Indiscriminately carving its way through peoples lives. Shaping those it leaves behind, hacking down those it chooses, and sparing the few. Can the few become the majority, can it be turned around? “It”, this loss of control, this abnormal that comes from within, from normal. It has defined my life, and it continues to do so. It never ceases to surprise me even when I know how it works, what to expect from it. Who will be next, will it take me? Oh the irony, of course it will. Happy is he who finds out the causes for things.Virgil (70-19 BC). Virgil was such a lying bastard! | |
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So true. Cancer touched everyone somehow. | |
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What you do helps many people, karma dude. I for one have felt your care at first hand.
My love to you and your beautiful family | |
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I hate it. HATE it... and completely and utterly take my proverbial hat off to people like yourself who are trying to find a cure and ways to prevent it
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Steve, I dunno how much truth there is in this, but recently I heard that around 80% of cancer cases are triggered by stress or grief.
As an example, say, the loss of a loved one. Have you heard about this and do you think there could be some truth to it? | |
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maybe cancer is a way to see how limitless our compassion can be. you've certainly passed with flying colors. | |
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IrresistibleB1tch said: maybe cancer is a way to see how limitless our compassion can be. you've certainly passed with flying colors.
Didn't he just? Steve when we goin' for that beer man? Edited for you [Edited 2/21/07 7:13am] | |
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Thanks for the compliments but thats not what this is about. I am angry and struggling at the mo, and threw this together to vent and see what conversation comes from it. Productivity from adversity, if you will. Sharing stories perhaps? Depressing, probably. Happy is he who finds out the causes for things.Virgil (70-19 BC). Virgil was such a lying bastard! | |
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PREDOMINANT said: Thanks for the compliments but thats not what this is about. I am angry and struggling at the mo, and threw this together to vent and see what conversation comes from it. Productivity from adversity, if you will. Sharing stories perhaps? Depressing, probably.
Why? What do you do? Are you a doctor or a scientist or something? (This is not me acting silly I'm serious btw) | |
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Cloudbuster said: Steve, I dunno how much truth there is in this, but recently I heard that around 80% of cancer cases are triggered by stress or grief.
As an example, say, the loss of a loved one. Have you heard about this and do you think there could be some truth to it? Don't believe everything you read by "Scientists" we are not to be trusted There is probably some evidence to back this up, certainly it can exacerbate the disease and there is plenty of evidence for that. I am not sure about triggers though. Generally, healthy stress free life is good, but even then it can bite you in the ass. Happy is he who finds out the causes for things.Virgil (70-19 BC). Virgil was such a lying bastard! | |
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PREDOMINANT said: Cloudbuster said: Steve, I dunno how much truth there is in this, but recently I heard that around 80% of cancer cases are triggered by stress or grief.
As an example, say, the loss of a loved one. Have you heard about this and do you think there could be some truth to it? Don't believe everything you read by "Scientists" we are not to be trusted There is probably some evidence to back this up, certainly it can exacerbate the disease and there is plenty of evidence for that. I am not sure about triggers though. Generally, healthy stress free life is good, but even then it can bite you in the ass. Thanks for answering, man. It just got me wondering about the link between a healthy mind and a healthy body. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that there is indeed some truth to it. . [Edited 2/21/07 7:19am] | |
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PREDOMINANT said: Cloudbuster said: Steve, I dunno how much truth there is in this, but recently I heard that around 80% of cancer cases are triggered by stress or grief.
As an example, say, the loss of a loved one. Have you heard about this and do you think there could be some truth to it? Don't believe everything you read by "Scientists" we are not to be trusted There is probably some evidence to back this up, certainly it can exacerbate the disease and there is plenty of evidence for that. I am not sure about triggers though. Generally, healthy stress free life is good, but even then it can bite you in the ass. So your like a specialist? Okay, is it true that if you have cancer and its not known yet, and you get cut open for say an aortic anuerism, the cancer can spread like wild fire from the air hitting it? | |
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Cloudbuster said: PREDOMINANT said: Don't believe everything you read by "Scientists" we are not to be trusted There is probably some evidence to back this up, certainly it can exacerbate the disease and there is plenty of evidence for that. I am not sure about triggers though. Generally, healthy stress free life is good, but even then it can bite you in the ass. Thanks for answering, man. It just got me wondering about the link between a healthy mind and a healthy body. I wouldn't be suprised to learn that there is indeed some truth to it. . [Edited 2/21/07 7:17am] Then we are both definately fucked! Happy is he who finds out the causes for things.Virgil (70-19 BC). Virgil was such a lying bastard! | |
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SureThing said: PREDOMINANT said: Thanks for the compliments but thats not what this is about. I am angry and struggling at the mo, and threw this together to vent and see what conversation comes from it. Productivity from adversity, if you will. Sharing stories perhaps? Depressing, probably.
Why? What do you do? Are you a doctor or a scientist or something? (This is not me acting silly I'm serious btw) Scientist I supose. Happy is he who finds out the causes for things.Virgil (70-19 BC). Virgil was such a lying bastard! | |
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PREDOMINANT said: Cloudbuster said: Thanks for answering, man. It just got me wondering about the link between a healthy mind and a healthy body.
I wouldn't be suprised to learn that there is indeed some truth to it. Then we are both definately fucked! Speak for yourself. | |
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SureThing said: PREDOMINANT said: Don't believe everything you read by "Scientists" we are not to be trusted There is probably some evidence to back this up, certainly it can exacerbate the disease and there is plenty of evidence for that. I am not sure about triggers though. Generally, healthy stress free life is good, but even then it can bite you in the ass. So your like a specialist? Okay, is it true that if you have cancer and its not known yet, and you get cut open for say an aortic anuerism, the cancer can spread like wild fire from the air hitting it? I am not a surgeon but I would say that there is an element of truth to your question, although it varies greatly. Not so much the air getting to it as the disturbance of the operation possibly. Happy is he who finds out the causes for things.Virgil (70-19 BC). Virgil was such a lying bastard! | |
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PREDOMINANT said: SureThing said: So your like a specialist? Okay, is it true that if you have cancer and its not known yet, and you get cut open for say an aortic anuerism, the cancer can spread like wild fire from the air hitting it? I am not a surgeon but I would say that there is an element of truth to your question, although it varies greatly. Not so much the air getting to it as the disturbance of the operation possibly. Okay, and if you had cancer that had spread to the lymph nodes, and to all kinds of your organs and stuff. And you were getting the aneurism surgery. And you were opened from up near your chest down to you groin, would the doctors SEE the cancer? | |
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SureThing said: PREDOMINANT said: I am not a surgeon but I would say that there is an element of truth to your question, although it varies greatly. Not so much the air getting to it as the disturbance of the operation possibly. Okay, and if you had cancer that had spread to the lymph nodes, and to all kinds of your organs and stuff. And you were getting the aneurism surgery. And you were opened from up near your chest down to you groin, would the doctors SEE the cancer? Quite possibly, yes. BUT it really depends. Happy is he who finds out the causes for things.Virgil (70-19 BC). Virgil was such a lying bastard! | |
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Chin up Steve Rock n roll baby | |
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PREDOMINANT said: Thanks for the compliments but thats not what this is about. I am angry and struggling at the mo, and threw this together to vent and see what conversation comes from it. Productivity from adversity, if you will. Sharing stories perhaps? Depressing, probably.
i would imagine burnout is very common in a field where you see a tremendous amount of suffering on an ongoing basis. | |
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My granmother has had it cut out of her a few times. She survives because of what your field has come up with. She is 90 soon.
Chin up..... Its bound to run you over here and there. Perhaps it will provide a fresh prospective on the other end. | |
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Muse2NOPharaoh said: My grandmother has had it cut out of her a few times. She survives because of what your field has come up with. She is 90 soon.
Chin up..... Its bound to run you over here and there. Perhaps it will provide a fresh prospective on the other end. Oh and a few of these! | |
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IrresistibleB1tch said: PREDOMINANT said: Thanks for the compliments but thats not what this is about. I am angry and struggling at the mo, and threw this together to vent and see what conversation comes from it. Productivity from adversity, if you will. Sharing stories perhaps? Depressing, probably.
i would imagine burnout is very common in a field where you see a tremendous amount of suffering on an ongoing basis. Actually that keeps me going, it'e when it come close to home that the trouble starts. I am not burned out Happy is he who finds out the causes for things.Virgil (70-19 BC). Virgil was such a lying bastard! | |
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another big for you Steve... keep your chin up | |
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Muse2NOPharaoh said: My granmother has had it cut out of her a few times. She survives because of what your field has come up with. She is 90 soon.
Chin up..... Its bound to run you over here and there. Perhaps it will provide a fresh prospective on the other end. Thats what I am looking at, had a few ides as a result, in need some lab monkeys (not in the vivisection sense!!) to come and do my bidding!! Any volunteers? Happy is he who finds out the causes for things.Virgil (70-19 BC). Virgil was such a lying bastard! | |
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PREDOMINANT said: Muse2NOPharaoh said: My granmother has had it cut out of her a few times. She survives because of what your field has come up with. She is 90 soon.
Chin up..... Its bound to run you over here and there. Perhaps it will provide a fresh prospective on the other end. Thats what I am looking at, had a few ides as a result, in need some lab monkeys (not in the vivisection sense!!) to come and do my bidding!! Any volunteers? what do you need volunteers to do, Steve? if I can help, I will... I'm serious | |
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my life in the past yr has been turned around, turned upside down and inside out by it
I hurt I rage I hope I cry I laugh I grow parts of me die I embrace it I hate it I have compassion surrounding it all these things I go through several times each day my life will never be the same ...though deeply i am blessed and understand this I feel wounded I feel raw ... my heart and head throbs I cant sleep and I rejoice | |
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PREDOMINANT said: Muse2NOPharaoh said: My granmother has had it cut out of her a few times. She survives because of what your field has come up with. She is 90 soon.
Chin up..... Its bound to run you over here and there. Perhaps it will provide a fresh prospective on the other end. Thats what I am looking at, had a few ides as a result, in need some lab monkeys (not in the vivisection sense!!) to come and do my bidding!! Any volunteers? I'm in! As long as i dont't have to not drink for a month! | |
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PREDOMINANT said: Muse2NOPharaoh said: My granmother has had it cut out of her a few times. She survives because of what your field has come up with. She is 90 soon.
Chin up..... Its bound to run you over here and there. Perhaps it will provide a fresh prospective on the other end. Thats what I am looking at, had a few ides as a result, in need some lab monkeys (not in the vivisection sense!!) to come and do my bidding!! Any volunteers? Show me a picture of your son! | |
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