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as a Hispanic-Arab, I think this is all much ado about nothing....how many comics throughout history have stolen ideas and jokes and shit? Eddie Murphy was notorious for lifting Richard Pryor's shit....and Lenny Bruce inspired a shit load of comics.....As much as I love Lewis Black, he is just (TO ME) a latter day version of a young George Carlin, before he got old and bitter....
I mean, who the fuck is JOE ROGAN???!?! The Fear Factor guy? SInce when did he become the comedy police? C'mon....sounds like a lot of haterade going on with that shit.....I mean a lot of people (me included) didn't even know he was a comic....reminds me of all the bullshit feuds in rap....Tupac v. Biggie.....50 Cent v. whoever.....someone trying to establish some cred on the back of someone else...."Oh, if you're in the neighborhood, come see my entirely original, never used a joke or joke idea that someone else used, comedy show..." BULLSHIT!!! I agree that stealing jokes is some low shit, but its lower shit to out someone to benefit yourself...and thats all thats about....if he was doing the public a great service, then his vagina wouldn't be all in a tizzy about getting banned from the Comedy Store..... and for the record, I think that Mencia is funny as hell....because I don't need him to be anything more than what he is....A COMEDIAN!! If you don't like his material, then bypass it... He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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reneGade20 said: as a Hispanic-Arab, I think this is all much ado about nothing....how many comics throughout history have stolen ideas and jokes and shit? Eddie Murphy was notorious for lifting Richard Pryor's shit....and Lenny Bruce inspired a shit load of comics.....As much as I love Lewis Black, he is just (TO ME) a latter day version of a young George Carlin, before he got old and bitter....
I mean, who the fuck is JOE ROGAN???!?! The Fear Factor guy? SInce when did he become the comedy police? C'mon....sounds like a lot of haterade going on with that shit.....I mean a lot of people (me included) didn't even know he was a comic....reminds me of all the bullshit feuds in rap....Tupac v. Biggie.....50 Cent v. whoever.....someone trying to establish some cred on the back of someone else...."Oh, if you're in the neighborhood, come see my entirely original, never used a joke or joke idea that someone else used, comedy show..." BULLSHIT!!! I agree that stealing jokes is some low shit, but its lower shit to out someone to benefit yourself...and thats all thats about....if he was doing the public a great service, then his vagina wouldn't be all in a tizzy about getting banned from the Comedy Store..... and for the record, I think that Mencia is funny as hell....because I don't need him to be anything more than what he is....A COMEDIAN!! If you don't like his material, then bypass it... From Joe's Blog... Now, a lot of comics have had a problem with Carlos stealing material for a long time now, but for whatever reason, many of them don't like to talk about it publicly, mostly because they're afraid that people are going to think that they're just jealous. That, and they're worried about him using his power in "Hollywood" to have them black balled for talking badly about him. But in private, they talk about it. A LOT. It's a huge problem at the comedy store, to the point where some really good comics are refusing to go onstage if he's there watching the show, and others have a signal system to alert the guy onstage that Carlos has walked into the room. It's really THAT BAD. It's like a dark cloud that hovers over the place when he's performing there. He walks by and people literally stop their conversations and move away. To give you a little background, when I first moved to Hollywood way back in 1994 Carlos and I were actually friends. We hung out together a bunch of times. Played pool together, went to the gym, hung out at the store, all kinds of shit. That's also how I know that he's really half German and Half Honduran and not Mexican. I know it, because he told me himself. I thought that it was weird to use a fake name, but who gives a shit really. No big deal. Other than that he seemed to be a cool guy. Then I started to see it. Over and over again, I would see him do jokes that I knew I had heard before. Then I saw some real obvious shit. Some jokes that I knew were Paul Mooney's, some that were right off a Richard Pryor album. I brought it up to him, and he gave me this half assed denial that I knew was a lie. That was the end of our friendship. I didn't hate the guy, but there was no way I could hang around with him knowing he's a thief. For someone who is not a comic, and doesn't understand what the big deal is about comics stealing jokes, please let me try to explain it to you. It's hard to come up with material. It takes a lot of work, a lot of rewriting, sometimes an approach bombs and you have to rethink it, and often it's a long process until you get to a finished product. Now, occasionally a joke will come to you in full form, but for the most part it's just an idea that can become a great bit with some work. Now, when you work hard on a bit and polish and craft it, and then someone just disrespects the whole process, steps in, steals it and performs it as his own, that's a pretty intense creative violation. I've been in the back of a club while a guy was onstage doing one of my bits and believe me that's a shitty fucking feeling. It's like watching your girlfriend getting fucked onstage by a liar while the whole audience cheers. What's even worse, is if you're a struggling comic, and the guy stealing your shit has his own show on comedy central. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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reneGade20 said: as a Hispanic-Arab, I think this is all much ado about nothing....how many comics throughout history have stolen ideas and jokes and shit? Eddie Murphy was notorious for lifting Richard Pryor's shit....and Lenny Bruce inspired a shit load of comics.....As much as I love Lewis Black, he is just (TO ME) a latter day version of a young George Carlin, before he got old and bitter....
I mean, who the fuck is JOE ROGAN???!?! The Fear Factor guy? SInce when did he become the comedy police? C'mon....sounds like a lot of haterade going on with that shit.....I mean a lot of people (me included) didn't even know he was a comic....reminds me of all the bullshit feuds in rap....Tupac v. Biggie.....50 Cent v. whoever.....someone trying to establish some cred on the back of someone else...."Oh, if you're in the neighborhood, come see my entirely original, never used a joke or joke idea that someone else used, comedy show..." BULLSHIT!!! I agree that stealing jokes is some low shit, but its lower shit to out someone to benefit yourself...and thats all thats about....if he was doing the public a great service, then his vagina wouldn't be all in a tizzy about getting banned from the Comedy Store..... and for the record, I think that Mencia is funny as hell....because I don't need him to be anything more than what he is....A COMEDIAN!! If you don't like his material, then bypass it... joe was doing stand up long before newsradio, which was long before fear factor. i think he has been doing for about 12 years. he is good too. check out his cd just saying. Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton | |
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cborgman said: reneGade20 said: as a Hispanic-Arab, I think this is all much ado about nothing....how many comics throughout history have stolen ideas and jokes and shit? Eddie Murphy was notorious for lifting Richard Pryor's shit....and Lenny Bruce inspired a shit load of comics.....As much as I love Lewis Black, he is just (TO ME) a latter day version of a young George Carlin, before he got old and bitter....
I mean, who the fuck is JOE ROGAN???!?! The Fear Factor guy? SInce when did he become the comedy police? C'mon....sounds like a lot of haterade going on with that shit.....I mean a lot of people (me included) didn't even know he was a comic....reminds me of all the bullshit feuds in rap....Tupac v. Biggie.....50 Cent v. whoever.....someone trying to establish some cred on the back of someone else...."Oh, if you're in the neighborhood, come see my entirely original, never used a joke or joke idea that someone else used, comedy show..." BULLSHIT!!! I agree that stealing jokes is some low shit, but its lower shit to out someone to benefit yourself...and thats all thats about....if he was doing the public a great service, then his vagina wouldn't be all in a tizzy about getting banned from the Comedy Store..... and for the record, I think that Mencia is funny as hell....because I don't need him to be anything more than what he is....A COMEDIAN!! If you don't like his material, then bypass it... joe was doing stand up long before newsradio, which was long before fear factor. i think he has been doing for about 12 years. he is good too. check out his cd just saying. 
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superspaceboy said: reneGade20 said: as a Hispanic-Arab, I think this is all much ado about nothing....how many comics throughout history have stolen ideas and jokes and shit? Eddie Murphy was notorious for lifting Richard Pryor's shit....and Lenny Bruce inspired a shit load of comics.....As much as I love Lewis Black, he is just (TO ME) a latter day version of a young George Carlin, before he got old and bitter....
I mean, who the fuck is JOE ROGAN???!?! The Fear Factor guy? SInce when did he become the comedy police? C'mon....sounds like a lot of haterade going on with that shit.....I mean a lot of people (me included) didn't even know he was a comic....reminds me of all the bullshit feuds in rap....Tupac v. Biggie.....50 Cent v. whoever.....someone trying to establish some cred on the back of someone else...."Oh, if you're in the neighborhood, come see my entirely original, never used a joke or joke idea that someone else used, comedy show..." BULLSHIT!!! I agree that stealing jokes is some low shit, but its lower shit to out someone to benefit yourself...and thats all thats about....if he was doing the public a great service, then his vagina wouldn't be all in a tizzy about getting banned from the Comedy Store..... and for the record, I think that Mencia is funny as hell....because I don't need him to be anything more than what he is....A COMEDIAN!! If you don't like his material, then bypass it... From Joe's Blog... Now, a lot of comics have had a problem with Carlos stealing material for a long time now, but for whatever reason, many of them don't like to talk about it publicly, mostly because they're afraid that people are going to think that they're just jealous. That, and they're worried about him using his power in "Hollywood" to have them black balled for talking badly about him. But in private, they talk about it. A LOT. It's a huge problem at the comedy store, to the point where some really good comics are refusing to go onstage if he's there watching the show, and others have a signal system to alert the guy onstage that Carlos has walked into the room. It's really THAT BAD. It's like a dark cloud that hovers over the place when he's performing there. He walks by and people literally stop their conversations and move away. To give you a little background, when I first moved to Hollywood way back in 1994 Carlos and I were actually friends. We hung out together a bunch of times. Played pool together, went to the gym, hung out at the store, all kinds of shit. That's also how I know that he's really half German and Half Honduran and not Mexican. I know it, because he told me himself. I thought that it was weird to use a fake name, but who gives a shit really. No big deal. Other than that he seemed to be a cool guy. Then I started to see it. Over and over again, I would see him do jokes that I knew I had heard before. Then I saw some real obvious shit. Some jokes that I knew were Paul Mooney's, some that were right off a Richard Pryor album. I brought it up to him, and he gave me this half assed denial that I knew was a lie. That was the end of our friendship. I didn't hate the guy, but there was no way I could hang around with him knowing he's a thief. For someone who is not a comic, and doesn't understand what the big deal is about comics stealing jokes, please let me try to explain it to you. It's hard to come up with material. It takes a lot of work, a lot of rewriting, sometimes an approach bombs and you have to rethink it, and often it's a long process until you get to a finished product. Now, occasionally a joke will come to you in full form, but for the most part it's just an idea that can become a great bit with some work. Now, when you work hard on a bit and polish and craft it, and then someone just disrespects the whole process, steps in, steals it and performs it as his own, that's a pretty intense creative violation. I've been in the back of a club while a guy was onstage doing one of my bits and believe me that's a shitty fucking feeling. It's like watching your girlfriend getting fucked onstage by a liar while the whole audience cheers. What's even worse, is if you're a struggling comic, and the guy stealing your shit has his own show on comedy central. Mencia acknowledges his ethnicity in his latest DVD.....so thats no surprise...as a matter of fact he mentioned it in a couple of his other discs as well.... like I said I agree that stealing material is some low shit...but its not like Mencia is the first and only comic to do so...and if he's been doing it since '94, why is Rogan just now making an issue of it if he feels so strongly about it? Not like Mencia is just now hitting it large, because we were kickin' a couple of his earlier discs the last time I was over here in Iraq in 2004.....so he has been big for quite a while.....where was Saint Joe all this time? He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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FunkMistress said: cborgman said: joe was doing stand up long before newsradio, which was long before fear factor. i think he has been doing for about 12 years. he is good too. check out his cd just saying.
I remember seeing his act on a standup show way before Newsradio began. i got into him through NR, so i dont know a whole lot prior to that. he's really funny as hell though. his comedy can make my stomach turn (the white carpet whataburger suicide by brainshot thing on the cd...  ), but it's damn good.Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton | |
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cborgman said: reneGade20 said: as a Hispanic-Arab, I think this is all much ado about nothing....how many comics throughout history have stolen ideas and jokes and shit? Eddie Murphy was notorious for lifting Richard Pryor's shit....and Lenny Bruce inspired a shit load of comics.....As much as I love Lewis Black, he is just (TO ME) a latter day version of a young George Carlin, before he got old and bitter....
I mean, who the fuck is JOE ROGAN???!?! The Fear Factor guy? SInce when did he become the comedy police? C'mon....sounds like a lot of haterade going on with that shit.....I mean a lot of people (me included) didn't even know he was a comic....reminds me of all the bullshit feuds in rap....Tupac v. Biggie.....50 Cent v. whoever.....someone trying to establish some cred on the back of someone else...."Oh, if you're in the neighborhood, come see my entirely original, never used a joke or joke idea that someone else used, comedy show..." BULLSHIT!!! I agree that stealing jokes is some low shit, but its lower shit to out someone to benefit yourself...and thats all thats about....if he was doing the public a great service, then his vagina wouldn't be all in a tizzy about getting banned from the Comedy Store..... and for the record, I think that Mencia is funny as hell....because I don't need him to be anything more than what he is....A COMEDIAN!! If you don't like his material, then bypass it... joe was doing stand up long before newsradio, which was long before fear factor. i think he has been doing for about 12 years. he is good too. check out his cd just saying. All I'm saying is that you have to question his motives for coming out against Mencia NOW, especially if he's been allegedly stealing material all this time...and especially if Rogan feels so strongly about it.....I've never heard or saw Rogan do standup, so I can't judge his talent....but the timing just seems kinda whack..... He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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superspaceboy said: From Joe's Blog...
That's also how I know that he's really half German and Half Honduran and not Mexican. I know it, because he told me himself. Carlos doesn't claim to be Mexican. I've heard him say in his act that he's Honduran. The Normal Whores Club | |
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FunkMistress said: superspaceboy said: From Joe's Blog...
That's also how I know that he's really half German and Half Honduran and not Mexican. I know it, because he told me himself. Carlos doesn't claim to be Mexican. I've heard him say in his act that he's Honduran. tell 'em again!!!   He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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Whoa, hold on... Joe Rogan the Fear Factor guy... You can't be serious. | |
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i guess i'm glad i dunno who the hell the guy is to begin with. | |
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FunkMistress said: superspaceboy said: From Joe's Blog...
That's also how I know that he's really half German and Half Honduran and not Mexican. I know it, because he told me himself. Carlos doesn't claim to be Mexican. I've heard him say in his act that he's Honduran. I think he means that Carlos' name implys he is Mexican. [Edited 2/15/07 14:22pm] Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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reneGade20 said: superspaceboy said: From Joe's Blog... Now, a lot of comics have had a problem with Carlos stealing material for a long time now, but for whatever reason, many of them don't like to talk about it publicly, mostly because they're afraid that people are going to think that they're just jealous. That, and they're worried about him using his power in "Hollywood" to have them black balled for talking badly about him. But in private, they talk about it. A LOT. It's a huge problem at the comedy store, to the point where some really good comics are refusing to go onstage if he's there watching the show, and others have a signal system to alert the guy onstage that Carlos has walked into the room. It's really THAT BAD. It's like a dark cloud that hovers over the place when he's performing there. He walks by and people literally stop their conversations and move away. To give you a little background, when I first moved to Hollywood way back in 1994 Carlos and I were actually friends. We hung out together a bunch of times. Played pool together, went to the gym, hung out at the store, all kinds of shit. That's also how I know that he's really half German and Half Honduran and not Mexican. I know it, because he told me himself. I thought that it was weird to use a fake name, but who gives a shit really. No big deal. Other than that he seemed to be a cool guy. Then I started to see it. Over and over again, I would see him do jokes that I knew I had heard before. Then I saw some real obvious shit. Some jokes that I knew were Paul Mooney's, some that were right off a Richard Pryor album. I brought it up to him, and he gave me this half assed denial that I knew was a lie. That was the end of our friendship. I didn't hate the guy, but there was no way I could hang around with him knowing he's a thief. For someone who is not a comic, and doesn't understand what the big deal is about comics stealing jokes, please let me try to explain it to you. It's hard to come up with material. It takes a lot of work, a lot of rewriting, sometimes an approach bombs and you have to rethink it, and often it's a long process until you get to a finished product. Now, occasionally a joke will come to you in full form, but for the most part it's just an idea that can become a great bit with some work. Now, when you work hard on a bit and polish and craft it, and then someone just disrespects the whole process, steps in, steals it and performs it as his own, that's a pretty intense creative violation. I've been in the back of a club while a guy was onstage doing one of my bits and believe me that's a shitty fucking feeling. It's like watching your girlfriend getting fucked onstage by a liar while the whole audience cheers. What's even worse, is if you're a struggling comic, and the guy stealing your shit has his own show on comedy central. Mencia acknowledges his ethnicity in his latest DVD.....so thats no surprise...as a matter of fact he mentioned it in a couple of his other discs as well.... like I said I agree that stealing material is some low shit...but its not like Mencia is the first and only comic to do so...and if he's been doing it since '94, why is Rogan just now making an issue of it if he feels so strongly about it? Not like Mencia is just now hitting it large, because we were kickin' a couple of his earlier discs the last time I was over here in Iraq in 2004.....so he has been big for quite a while.....where was Saint Joe all this time? Joe didn't really care about Carlos until Carlos started saying shit about Joe and then Joe decided to start making a case of Carlos' stealing. I guess he simply got tired of it and decided to do something. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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superspaceboy said: FunkMistress said: Carlos doesn't claim to be Mexican. I've heard him say in his act that he's Honduran. I think he's that Carlos' name implys he is Mexican. Carlos is a very common name.....not specific to any one Hispanic country....hell, there are Brazillians and Portuguese named Carlos...  He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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HobbesLeCute said: I wish Bill Hicks was still alive.
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HobbesLeCute said: I wish Bill Hicks was still alive. God, so do I.  | |
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superspaceboy said: Joe didn't really care about Carlos until Carlos started saying shit about Joe and then Joe decided to start making a case of Carlos' stealing. I guess he simply got tired of it and decided to do something. When did this happen? He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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reneGade20 said: superspaceboy said: Joe didn't really care about Carlos until Carlos started saying shit about Joe and then Joe decided to start making a case of Carlos' stealing. I guess he simply got tired of it and decided to do something. When did this happen? www.joerogan.net take a look, he has laid it all out. I really don't want to cut and paste anymore from his site. But it's all there. He talks about their past, what led up to Saturdays shouting Match and how he feels about it. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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superspaceboy said: reneGade20 said: When did this happen? www.joerogan.net take a look, he has laid it all out. I really don't want to cut and paste anymore from his site. But it's all there. He talks about their past, what led up to Saturdays shouting Match and how he feels about it. I'll take a look later.....tired...  I'm about to go to bed (almost 2 AM out here in Iraq).....thanx for the link.....though I'll reserve any more judgement until 'Los comes out with his side.....He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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Mozorro said: the video's gone
anywhere else that it can be seeN? someone reposted another link in this thread. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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superspaceboy said: Mozorro said: the video's gone
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Fucking Aye! Joe Rogin rocks! I was unaware of Carlos' stealin' ways, but I love that he was called out on it by Joe. It appears that Joe is on a crusade to out Mencia. Good for him, as it's the worst thing you can do as a comedian - to steal jokes.
Mencia is funny on occasion... but, I get tired of him after about ten minutes. George Lopez ROCKS. Paul Rodriguez ROCKS. I've seen them both in concert... all original and all funny. Thanks for posting the link... I sent it to my brother who is always quoting Mencia's material. Now he will know that he's not really quoting Mencia. |
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moderatorsuperspaceboy said: FunkMistress said: Carlos doesn't claim to be Mexican. I've heard him say in his act that he's Honduran. I think he means that Carlos' name implys he is Mexican. [Edited 2/15/07 14:22pm] 
Why? Honduras is a Spanish-speaking country. The Normal Whores Club | |
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One of his "bits" that I like is when he says that when he's in California people asume he's Mexican, in Florida peole think he's Cuban and in New York people think he's Puerto Rican.
In England they thought I was Turkish. M MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits" | |
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SoulAlive said: cborgman said: it's been removed This one works http://youtube.com/watch?v=jsq1uTLBHBc | |
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