...I've read every word, and I feel quite a bit overwhelmed by this thread...

AnotherLover...for your strength, woman...

No introductory IM could ever compare to the tingle I got when I first met my girlfriend. But all of the cybergeeks want to keep hope alive that the person behind the screen name they're in love with really is some busty, brainy blonde that just happens to find their Star Trek obsession deliciously charming...get real! Go outside & play people!

(((sigh)))... "Internet Romance". (First of all I apologize for going off on a tangent, but I have something on my mind) Well... to start off, I will say... I have always been extremely leary of the internet, perhaps always will be (as we all should)... same goes for "life". I started coming here to the org. a couple of years ago, solely for Prince information. I did not get involved with posting until around February of this year. Nor have I ever been involved with internet chat, personally I never was drawn to that. I will say that I have utilized the internet form of communication, corresponding with close friends/family very often in the past few years. Internet was somewhat of a dream come true, I am not much for talking on the phone (all my friends/family are fully aware). If I relate with individual's I am definitely a face-to-face communicator, it's definitely the way to go above all else, for me personally. (smile)

So..., in February of this year... I took a deep breath (warm smile) and posted for the first time. It wasn't all that bad. What drew me in was the beautiful diversity here (all people), and the common talk of Prince/Music. I have been a avid music lover all my life, the relation here was nice for the most part. (warm smile) As Prince was touring (earlier this year), and reviews were being posted on a regular basis, I came around more... I truly love to hear other personal experiences on seeing Prince perform. During this time... I began to respond more, mostly pertaining to Prince, not too much general talk. I would connect with a common thought from time-to-time, I would smile at the realization of the connection, whether it be music related or issues about peace (I am aware of much).

Let me get to the point..., I believe it was back in May (or before), I did capture the attention of one individual in particular (vice versa) here at the org., was I uneasy... you bet! First... I will say, I have truly felt the presence of so many beautiful people here, (((sigh))) AnotherLover is definitely one as of lately. This other in particular (beautiful person, without mentioning names... yet) captured my attention, as well as my heart like no other. (((sigh))) Did I expect for it to happen? Definitely not. Although I am profoundly grateful for the affect/influences he truly had/has on me, he has changed my life. (warm beautiful smile) Is it real... I have no doubts in my mind/heart, none whatsoever.

I will say this... I was definitely one to question the realness of internet relations... whether or not it could be real without physically meeting/touching another. I now believe/feel that it indeed can be real... for the reason that only the inner-self can truly know, it's unexplainable... but fully acknowledged and profoundly felt. (((beautiful sigh)))

Time and time again... I continue to read/acknowledge personal experiences here at the org., some beautifully touching, some mind-opening, some very humorous, some not so humorous...and I truly respect them all. I believe that whether we admit it or not... "issues" effect us personally at different levels and once we have exposed our minds to certain issues, it undoubtibly becomes a part of our mental state and in turn... a part of who we truly become as unique individuals (at certain degrees).

Do I believe in internet Romance? I would have to say , do I believe it can only reside within internet content? I would have to say... no. (personally) For if someone affects me profoundly/personally... I am one that must eventually meet such beauty. That's part of my true existence.

I could easily go on... but I will end for now. nLA, AnotherLover, SensualMelody, Diva, LittleRedCorvette and all... , thanks for sharing, truly. I truly have much to ponder as of today... much indeed. But I will continue to live a "freespirit", optimistic life... each beautiful day is definitely a new journey to behold, and we never know where is can lead us so beautifully to.(((sigh)))

Again and always... Beautiful Day!
[This message was edited Wed Sep 11 12:06:10 PDT 2002 by Freespirit]

I was just having this very same conversation yesterday! weird.

salaciousV said:

I seem to recall receiving a bit of that conversation, SalV.

I love you nLA......j/k

At any rate, I'll share two tales about my loser family. We'll start off with the negative.

Back in the days of a place called mplayer, which was a free place you could play games, and the sony chat - where you could go in after playing a nice game of jeopardy, my brother met a girl from California. Her name was Anne.

My brother would stay up til all hours of the night talking to this woman. She was 33 (Sean was but 24..), had several kids. I knew my brother had a "friend" but didn't think he was a "loser" who went about finding women on the internet. Boy, was I ever wrong!

They'd been talking for months, when they got the great idea that she should come visit us in Kentucky. My brother, being the wonderful fellow he is, made me clean the house. And I mean CLEAN. He made me do slave work...Scrubbing this and that, getting everything all ready for her arrival. Mind you, I did all of this while he sat at the computer and talked to Anne. I must be some kind of good sister.

So, Anne arrives. With her, she brings her youngest child, Andrew. He's 3, and as annoying as can be. I knew I could tolerate it for a week. Something seemed odd with Anne, however, although I couldn't quite put my finger on it. Something about the way she acted, the way she was. I didn't like how quiet she was, and I didn't like her responses to things - or her parenting skills. I most certainly did not like Anne. But, I was nice.

It gets 2 days before Anne's departure, and Sean announces he's packing his things and moving to California with her. Insane, yes? That's what I think. I was greatly bothered by this news. I didn't know whether to laugh, or cry, or pop him one right in the face for leaving me here. I told him how stupid and lame I thought he was. I told him how stupid and lame I thought Anne was, and I voiced my opinion of Anne as a person. Sean generally values my opinions, and takes them into consideration. He didn't this time - after all, it was just little sis trying to get him not to go.

So, he goes. Sean and I talk regularly on the phone. We figure out a time I can come visit him in the summer out in Cali. 6 months go by. I hadn't an idea anything was wrong, until I get a phone call one day - Sean telling me to get my shit out of his room, he was coming home.

Anyways - apparently, what Sean didn't know was Anne was a weed-fiend. Weed? I know what you're thinking - That's not so bad. Add that in with 3 children and chrystal meth, and a crazy ex-husband, and a plethora of druggie friends. Mind you, my brother was lame enough to go out there to California - leaving behind college, and a good job.


On to my father. My mother died in December of 1997 - which spun my father off into some sort of depressed state for a couple of years. He then got ahold of mplayer. You can apparently pimp yourself off on mplayer whilst playing cards. First comes Lyn. Lyn was okay...But I'm not here to talk about Lyn.

In late 1999, my father begins staying up all hours of the night, talking to a woman from North Carolina by the name of Dee. I knew things were going to turn for the worst when dad began making ME talk to Dee as well. I didn't mind her, but I didnd't like her either. I like to think I sometimes have a good idea of what people are like - a good insight. But that doesn't matter.

In short, Dee's been leaving with us for two years now - since May of 2000. I can't fucking stand her. She's obese, unintelligent, and all around annoying. I spend my days locked away in my room when I'm at home so that I won't have to listen to her.

She's the most annoying person I've ever had to p ut up with, but I try to tolerate it - because this fat, tub of lard makes my father happy. How? I don't even know. I don't know how he manages to find any worth in this woman. I don't even care.

At any rate they're "in love." So there was my contribution to this thread.

Bats...

Good Lord Another! How many lives have you lived? lol

In a way, I'm glad to know that your sage comes from experience.. sometimes it's the only way we'll learn.

How is it that you're so delightful and unfazed?

salaciousV said:

Read the poem I wrote that's posted on my profile! There's your answer!

AnotherLoverHolenYoHead said:

that's funny i was just about to call you opinionated in this post but thought it might offend you. i like being opinionated.

btw: the feet sorta threw me there.. have any foot stalkers yet?

salaciousV said:

There should be a FOOT emoticon on the Org...with pretty painted red toenails!

I have to disagree. Love CAN be found online. Love is a very tricky word, with many connotations and facets. However, what it boils down to is that love is emotionally and spiritually fulfulling. If someone can feel emotionally and spiritually fulfilled by someone else (Diva, cough cough), he or she can say that he or she is in love. However, I must concede that the limitations of the Internet do not bode well for maintenance of an online relationship. The story that Diva told of her friend and her online love is striking and is one I hope to repeat...

Moonbeam said:

Veo que en mi desperacion, he perdido un chico sympatico y lindisimooo.. a una mujer mejor!


un poco dramtico no crees?

salaciousV said:

Well, I only get sympatico out of that...And that means nice. And I only know that cuz that kid told Artiga his mama was sympatico. Artiga.

salaciousV said:

lol...amor mia, sabes que te quiero! Como has estado? Espero que todo te este tratando bien.

i think i'm falling in love with all of yas

is that such a bad thing???

XxAxX said:

Yes.

ha. ain't no stoping the looove train babeee.

ps: i think i'm falling in love with big brother too. gonna make him blush when he watches what i do next

XxAxX said:

Big Brother has no interest in that sort of thing.

then why's he such a voyeur??

you saying all those cameras and listening devices are for *security* reasons only?? please. i think the american public knows what goes on in the oval office by now

[quote]'INTERNET ROMANCE - CAN IT BE REAL? *or* IS THE INTERNET RUINING INTER - PERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS? [quote]

Yes, it can be real. Yes, Internet can ruining inter-personal relationships.

Every relation you go in, is lived for real. ?uestion is is it becomes closer or not. Internet can be good for some people for to met new friends, etc., but attention, don't lost the relation to your life out of ciberspace. It is easier to fall in love like this... but and also to desencanteted you again, or to do fly away, when it becomes hot. This we often can not do in our dailly day, face to face.
Abouve is also the point showed where I see Internet can ruining inter-personal relationships. It is easier for many to connect with people writing and oft in anonymity, this gives a certain liberty of expression and the computer can be putted on off if it wasn't that or simple to do ignore and close without any dramas.

AnotherLoverHolenYoHead said:

'NotherLover, it's taken me a while to get to your post because I saw how long it was and didn't read it the first time around.

You're better off without this spineless coward. I hope I don't come across too harsh if you have any residual feelings for this guy, but trust me; you're better off without him in your life.

He told you if it didn't work out you could be friends? No, a friend doesn't react that way without explaining the reason(s) behind his reaction. He doesn't know HOW to be a friend to you. And quite frankly, he's a liar that doesn't want to be a friend to you. If a man doesn't have the intestinal fortitude to be straight up with you about his feelings - he's a COWARD. The little email message he sent in reply to you was a sorry, piss poor, cop-out. He's not worth your time, effort, energy, or potential melancholy memories. What an A+ JERK!

Sorry about the rant, I just can't stand so-called men who have wet noodles for a spine.

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[This message was edited Mon Sep 16 7:46:24 PDT 2002 by Arcamar]

I'm sorry to hear that AnotherLover. This guy should have been more up front with you. It's too bad he did not have any consideration for your feelings. I think the best thing to do is consider it a bad experience and try to move on.

Thanks to everyone who took the time and energy to read/respond to my story. For those of you who asked--don't worry, I don't still have "feelings" for him. I"m not that messed up! The loving feelings for him disappeared rather quickly--it was the negative feelings I was left with about myself that were the most difficult to deal with.

I have a big suggestion to add here: I'd advise two people who are attracted to each other and want to meet to not write for too long before you get together in person, otherwise the feelings and anticipation mount and get too intense. So expectations can get sort of blown out of proportion. But if you haven't let too much time go by before meeting, it's a more casual, less pressured situation and even if things don't go as well as you'd hoped, it's not as disappointing and you can hopefully still leave things as friends--if not more!

i think its best to meet someone in real life but... anything can happen and does from what ive seen (my beeotch ian and miss diva)

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[This message was edited Tue Oct 1 5:26:21 PDT 2002 by REDFEATHERS]