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Thread started 02/10/07 8:46pm

funkpill

Mom Allegedly Had Child Watch Sex 'To Learn'

Pair Pleads Not Guilty


POSTED: 6:55 pm CST February 10, 2007


PROVIDENCE, R.I. -- A Rhode Island mother and her boyfriend are headed to trial on charges they had intercourse in front of the woman's 9-year-old daughter as a way to teach the girl about sex.

Rebecca Arnold, of Woonsocket, R.I., and her boyfriend, David Prata, have pleaded not guilty to felony child-neglect charges. A pre-trial conference is scheduled for next month.

When questioned by an investigator from the state Department of Children, Youth and Families, Prata, 33, said he and Arnold, 36, had sex "all the time" in front of the child and that "we don't believe in hiding anything."


He said the girl would often be on the bed watching as the couple had sex. Though they did not ask her to leave, they also did not force her to remain on the bed, Prata said.

Asked why he thought a child that age should know about sexual acts, Prata replied, "We wanted to prepare her so she would know how," according to a report from the investigator, Vanessa E. Cisela.

The allegations against the couple were revealed in December 2004 after the girl went to live with her biological father in North Adams, Mass. after spending the summer with her mother in Woonsocket. A teacher in North Adams called the Child Abuse Hotline to report that the girl, who is now 11, said her mother and her boyfriend had sex in front of her.

The child told a Massachusetts social services investigator that her mother and Prata never touched her or tried to include her in the sex.

Woonsocket police arrested Prata and Arnold in February 2005. The couple is accused of "providing an environment that is lewd and depraved in a manner that makes their home unfit for the child to live in," according to court records.

Prata and Arnold are free on bail pending a March 19 pretrial conference in Family Court. They could each face one to three years in prison if convicted or a maximum $1,000 fine, or both.

Their lawyers did not return phone calls from The Providence Journal.

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Reply #1 posted 02/10/07 8:48pm

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Reply #2 posted 02/10/07 9:13pm

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Reply #3 posted 02/10/07 9:24pm

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.....and this needs to be posted here because? Gees, if we wanted to be up to date on the worlds deep lack we would likely seek a site of such infomation...

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Reply #4 posted 02/10/07 10:00pm

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Reply #5 posted 02/11/07 12:33am

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Odd, but how can such a thing be illegal? I can understand current moral standards, but throughout the history children were watching adults have intercourse together all the time. Oeople used to live in small, one room cottages all around the world. And still do.
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Reply #6 posted 02/11/07 3:06am

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Muse2NOPharaoh said:

.....and this needs to be posted here because? Gees, if we wanted to be up to date on the worlds deep lack we would likely seek a site of such infomation...

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Reply #7 posted 02/11/07 7:35am

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novabrkr said:

Odd, but how can such a thing be illegal? I can understand current moral standards, but throughout the history children were watching adults have intercourse together all the time. Oeople used to live in small, one room cottages all around the world. And still do.


yeah...its creepy but i dont see how its illegal.
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Reply #8 posted 02/11/07 10:06am

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sosgemini said:

novabrkr said:

Odd, but how can such a thing be illegal? I can understand current moral standards, but throughout the history children were watching adults have intercourse together all the time. Oeople used to live in small, one room cottages all around the world. And still do.


yeah...its creepy but i dont see how its illegal.

Well, in Rhode Island, it's illegal for a woman to perform oral sex on a man, so I can definitely see how this would be classified as illegal in that state.

Also, I think that this kind of thing should be illegal under child endangerment laws. I think that child is one step away from being sexually abused by her mother's boyfriend (if he's even around by then) if it hasn't happened already.

I never watched my parents have sex with each other or with any of their girlfriends (no, that is not a typo...) and I can handle myself just fine in the bedroom. You learn how to have sex by having sex, not by watching your mother and her boyfriend traumatize you for life.

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Reply #9 posted 02/11/07 10:14am

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WOW. disbelief
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Reply #10 posted 02/11/07 10:52am

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sosgemini said:

novabrkr said:

Odd, but how can such a thing be illegal? I can understand current moral standards, but throughout the history children were watching adults have intercourse together all the time. Oeople used to live in small, one room cottages all around the world. And still do.


yeah...its creepy but i dont see how its illegal.


I agree.
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Reply #11 posted 02/11/07 11:07am

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funkpill said:

Pair Pleads Not Guilty


POSTED: 6:55 pm CST February 10, 2007


PROVIDENCE, R.I. -- A Rhode Island mother and her boyfriend are headed to trial on charges they had intercourse in front of the woman's 9-year-old daughter as a way to teach the girl about sex.

Rebecca Arnold, of Woonsocket, R.I., and her boyfriend, David Prata, have pleaded not guilty to felony child-neglect charges. A pre-trial conference is scheduled for next month.

When questioned by an investigator from the state Department of Children, Youth and Families, Prata, 33, said he and Arnold, 36, had sex "all the time" in front of the child and that "we don't believe in hiding anything."


He said the girl would often be on the bed watching as the couple had sex. Though they did not ask her to leave, they also did not force her to remain on the bed, Prata said.

Asked why he thought a child that age should know about sexual acts, Prata replied, "We wanted to prepare her so she would know how," according to a report from the investigator, Vanessa E. Cisela.

The allegations against the couple were revealed in December 2004 after the girl went to live with her biological father in North Adams, Mass. after spending the summer with her mother in Woonsocket. A teacher in North Adams called the Child Abuse Hotline to report that the girl, who is now 11, said her mother and her boyfriend had sex in front of her.

The child told a Massachusetts social services investigator that her mother and Prata never touched her or tried to include her in the sex.

Woonsocket police arrested Prata and Arnold in February 2005. The couple is accused of "providing an environment that is lewd and depraved in a manner that makes their home unfit for the child to live in," according to court records.

Prata and Arnold are free on bail pending a March 19 pretrial conference in Family Court. They could each face one to three years in prison if convicted or a maximum $1,000 fine, or both.

Their lawyers did not return phone calls from The Providence Journal.

confused what??!!!



If THIS was a little boy watching his mother having sex/making love to her boyfriend, would the level of controversy be the same OR lower?

BTW, the mother was wrong for having her daughter watch. But I remember a time when you hear stories of children were actually spying on their parent's sexual activities.
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Reply #12 posted 02/11/07 11:08am

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JasmineFire said:

sosgemini said:



yeah...its creepy but i dont see how its illegal.

Well, in Rhode Island, it's illegal for a woman to perform oral sex on a man, so I can definitely see how this would be classified as illegal in that state.

Also, I think that this kind of thing should be illegal under child endangerment laws. I think that child is one step away from being sexually abused by her mother's boyfriend (if he's even around by then) if it hasn't happened already.

I never watched my parents have sex with each other or with any of their girlfriends (no, that is not a typo...) and I can handle myself just fine in the bedroom. You learn how to have sex by having sex, not by watching your mother and her boyfriend traumatize you for life.

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Reply #13 posted 02/11/07 1:24pm

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TonyVanDam said:

funkpill said:

Pair Pleads Not Guilty


POSTED: 6:55 pm CST February 10, 2007


PROVIDENCE, R.I. -- A Rhode Island mother and her boyfriend are headed to trial on charges they had intercourse in front of the woman's 9-year-old daughter as a way to teach the girl about sex.

Rebecca Arnold, of Woonsocket, R.I., and her boyfriend, David Prata, have pleaded not guilty to felony child-neglect charges. A pre-trial conference is scheduled for next month.

When questioned by an investigator from the state Department of Children, Youth and Families, Prata, 33, said he and Arnold, 36, had sex "all the time" in front of the child and that "we don't believe in hiding anything."


He said the girl would often be on the bed watching as the couple had sex. Though they did not ask her to leave, they also did not force her to remain on the bed, Prata said.

Asked why he thought a child that age should know about sexual acts, Prata replied, "We wanted to prepare her so she would know how," according to a report from the investigator, Vanessa E. Cisela.

The allegations against the couple were revealed in December 2004 after the girl went to live with her biological father in North Adams, Mass. after spending the summer with her mother in Woonsocket. A teacher in North Adams called the Child Abuse Hotline to report that the girl, who is now 11, said her mother and her boyfriend had sex in front of her.

The child told a Massachusetts social services investigator that her mother and Prata never touched her or tried to include her in the sex.

Woonsocket police arrested Prata and Arnold in February 2005. The couple is accused of "providing an environment that is lewd and depraved in a manner that makes their home unfit for the child to live in," according to court records.

Prata and Arnold are free on bail pending a March 19 pretrial conference in Family Court. They could each face one to three years in prison if convicted or a maximum $1,000 fine, or both.

Their lawyers did not return phone calls from The Providence Journal.

confused what??!!!



If THIS was a little boy watching his mother having sex/making love to her boyfriend, would the level of controversy be the same OR lower?

BTW, the mother was wrong for having her daughter watch. But I remember a time when you hear stories of children were actually spying on their parent's sexual activities.
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I don't think the level of controversy would be any lower....if the reaction to teachers screwing their male students is any indication.....I live in mortal fear of my kids walking in on me and their mother, so the thought of making them stand there and watch really creeps me out....
He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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the video for the above...evillol
http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related
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Reply #14 posted 02/11/07 1:59pm

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evenstar3 said:

Muse2NOPharaoh said:

.....and this needs to be posted here because? Gees, if we wanted to be up to date on the worlds deep lack we would likely seek a site of such infomation...

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Reply #15 posted 02/11/07 2:30pm

JasmineFire

TonyVanDam said:

funkpill said:

Pair Pleads Not Guilty


POSTED: 6:55 pm CST February 10, 2007


PROVIDENCE, R.I. -- A Rhode Island mother and her boyfriend are headed to trial on charges they had intercourse in front of the woman's 9-year-old daughter as a way to teach the girl about sex.

Rebecca Arnold, of Woonsocket, R.I., and her boyfriend, David Prata, have pleaded not guilty to felony child-neglect charges. A pre-trial conference is scheduled for next month.

When questioned by an investigator from the state Department of Children, Youth and Families, Prata, 33, said he and Arnold, 36, had sex "all the time" in front of the child and that "we don't believe in hiding anything."


He said the girl would often be on the bed watching as the couple had sex. Though they did not ask her to leave, they also did not force her to remain on the bed, Prata said.

Asked why he thought a child that age should know about sexual acts, Prata replied, "We wanted to prepare her so she would know how," according to a report from the investigator, Vanessa E. Cisela.

The allegations against the couple were revealed in December 2004 after the girl went to live with her biological father in North Adams, Mass. after spending the summer with her mother in Woonsocket. A teacher in North Adams called the Child Abuse Hotline to report that the girl, who is now 11, said her mother and her boyfriend had sex in front of her.

The child told a Massachusetts social services investigator that her mother and Prata never touched her or tried to include her in the sex.

Woonsocket police arrested Prata and Arnold in February 2005. The couple is accused of "providing an environment that is lewd and depraved in a manner that makes their home unfit for the child to live in," according to court records.

Prata and Arnold are free on bail pending a March 19 pretrial conference in Family Court. They could each face one to three years in prison if convicted or a maximum $1,000 fine, or both.

Their lawyers did not return phone calls from The Providence Journal.

confused what??!!!



If THIS was a little boy watching his mother having sex/making love to her boyfriend, would the level of controversy be the same OR lower?

BTW, the mother was wrong for having her daughter watch. But I remember a time when you hear stories of children were actually spying on their parent's sexual activities.
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I think it would be the same even if it was a little boy. I would definitely suspect that some kind of sexual abuse/sexual predatory behavior was going on despite the gender of the child.

For those on this thread who don't think that this behavior should be illegal...why not?
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Reply #16 posted 02/11/07 3:00pm

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Wasn't there a movie about this?

I think it was called The Good Mother.

anyway, weird shit.
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Reply #17 posted 02/11/07 3:13pm

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Muse2NOPharaoh said:

.....and this needs to be posted here because? Gees, if we wanted to be up to date on the worlds deep lack we would likely seek a site of such infomation...

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its a general discussion board... shrug
shouldn't have clicked on it then.
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Reply #18 posted 02/11/07 3:15pm

EverSoulicious

So basicaly no one should have sex with kids living in the house? confuse I am not saying that I agree with what the mother did, but how many parents here had sex with their kids home and had one of them walk in? Would that ALSO be considered raising your child in a lewd household?
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Reply #19 posted 02/11/07 3:15pm

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sosgemini said:

novabrkr said:

Odd, but how can such a thing be illegal? I can understand current moral standards, but throughout the history children were watching adults have intercourse together all the time. Oeople used to live in small, one room cottages all around the world. And still do.


yeah...its creepy but i dont see how its illegal.



Weird, huh?
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Reply #20 posted 02/11/07 3:16pm

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deplorable.
Este sitio está moriendo de una maldad que no se puede ver ni comprender.
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Reply #21 posted 02/11/07 3:19pm

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Once, when I was but a wee snip of a lad,
I accidently walked in on my parents during sex.

The following morning,
my dad tried to explain to me that what they were actually doing was "wrestling".
"Well, Dad," I said, "you defintely seemed like you were winning."
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Reply #22 posted 02/11/07 3:22pm

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i learned about sex from reading an old college human sexuality textbook my mom had. shrug
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Reply #23 posted 02/11/07 3:23pm

SammiJ

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

i learned about sex from reading an old college human sexuality textbook my mom had. shrug

my sister had told me about it when i was around 9...but i was sooo confused... because the way my vivid imagination had pictured it, it looked like a hotdog... neutral i was hipped to the right way a few years later after seeing my first porno (but that's another dusty thread) lol
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Reply #24 posted 02/11/07 3:32pm

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EverSoulicious said:

So basicaly no one should have sex with kids living in the house? confuse I am not saying that I agree with what the mother did, but how many parents here had sex with their kids home and had one of them walk in? Would that ALSO be considered raising your child in a lewd household?

having sex with a child in the house and purposely having sex in front of a child are two ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THINGS.

Most children are aware of their parents' sexual activity, that's normal. It's also normal and healthy for parents to talk with their children about sex but having sex in front of a nine year old so that "she can learn" is not just creepy but borders on sexual abuse.

Basically, this mother and her boyfriend are including this child in their sexual acts by not excluding her from the room. For them to start actively having sex with this child doesn't seem that far off in the future by any stretch of the imagination.

It would be one thing if the child just saw her mother and the boyfriend naked because nudity does not equal sex but having sex in front of this child is really blurring the parent-child boundary. Also, the fact that the man involved is not her father makes this boundary even blurrier.

These people did not merely have sex with a child in the house, they had sex in front of her and that's just wrong. Seriously now, go back and read that article. Would you have sex in front of your own child or would you just pop in a kids video, give the kid a sandwich, and handle your business behind closed doors?
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Reply #25 posted 02/11/07 3:33pm

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SammiJ said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

i learned about sex from reading an old college human sexuality textbook my mom had. shrug

my sister had told me about it when i was around 9...but i was sooo confused... because the way my vivid imagination had pictured it, it looked like a hotdog... neutral i was hipped to the right way a few years later after seeing my first porno (but that's another dusty thread) lol
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lol yeah, pr0n (both on cinemax and my dad's porn stash) also taught me the basics of sex as well. i could never imagine my dad and mom actually demonstrating that shit for me, it'd be creepy as hell. i never even got The Talk from either of them.
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Reply #26 posted 02/11/07 3:34pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

SammiJ said:


my sister had told me about it when i was around 9...but i was sooo confused... because the way my vivid imagination had pictured it, it looked like a hotdog... neutral i was hipped to the right way a few years later after seeing my first porno (but that's another dusty thread) lol
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lol yeah, pr0n (both on cinemax and my dad's porn stash) also taught me the basics of sex as well. i could never imagine my dad and mom actually demonstrating that shit for me, it'd be creepy as hell. i never even got The Talk from either of them.

same here lol they just wanted to know if i had any further questions, and if i did i can ask it at sex ed in school. lol
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Reply #27 posted 02/11/07 3:35pm

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EverSoulicious said:

So basicaly no one should have sex with kids living in the house? confuse I am not saying that I agree with what the mother did, but how many parents here had sex with their kids home and had one of them walk in? Would that ALSO be considered raising your child in a lewd household?



Your kids walking in on you and you making them stand there watching you on purpose are two totally different animals altogether...accidental walk-ins don't make your household lewd...and no one is saying you can't have sex in the house when the kids are there, but there are ways to ensure your privacy.....as in door locks, and unfortunately, self censoring (keeping the animal noises to a minimum lol )....
He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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the video for the above...evillol
http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related
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Reply #28 posted 02/11/07 3:37pm

Handclapsfinga
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SammiJ said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:


lol yeah, pr0n (both on cinemax and my dad's porn stash) also taught me the basics of sex as well. i could never imagine my dad and mom actually demonstrating that shit for me, it'd be creepy as hell. i never even got The Talk from either of them.

same here lol they just wanted to know if i had any further questions, and if i did i can ask it at sex ed in school. lol

sex ed didn't even teach me much of anything. we just sat in class, watching all these cheesy '70s educational films (i still remember the one about male puberty...i LOL-ed at it).
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Reply #29 posted 02/11/07 3:37pm

SammiJ

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

SammiJ said:


same here lol they just wanted to know if i had any further questions, and if i did i can ask it at sex ed in school. lol

sex ed didn't even teach me much of anything. we just sat in class, watching all these cheesy '70s educational films (i still remember the one about male puberty...i LOL-ed at it).

spit i think ours was from earrrrly 80s, the gift of life or sommin like that lol
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