Ace said:

You can go to your public library and check out with a few books on psychology basics.

HereToRockYourWorld said:

tom cruise don't know about tom cruise. i do.

novabrkr said:

That's a completely bullshit non-answer.



Regardless, pills allowed me to carry on with life while I worked shit out, and I'm very, VERY grateful that the professionals I entrusted with my well-being did not think like you do.

novabrkr said:

Would these be the books written by the smartest men in history?

Perhaps you could just lay one thing on us?

I think I need more than therapy after today.

HereToRockYourWorld said:

I've always maintained that Scientology is so vehemently anti-psychiatry because they know that anyone in their right mind would bolt outta there like Michael Jackson faced with vagina.

Ace said:

Well, if you want a short explanation...

Since pleasuring and displeasuring sentiments are both a result of the signifying chain working in a certain manner (in a way that is always gradually, but inexorably veering towards psychotic behaviour) introducing chemicals that subsitute the natural products of your cognitive processes from the outside into your psyche is merely attempting to tackle what are generally regarded as the problematic sentiments posed by the symptom. Symptoms are merely that, symptoms, not the cause for the so-called problems (and mind you, they are merely problems perceived from the direction of the social order, not symbolic order as such). So unless somebody comes up with a drug that will affect the way the human mind subsumes a concept on a general basis, introducing chemicals into your body really is not going to have any proper effect on you. The surface level of how we might "feel about ourselves" is the outcome, not the inner structure itself - and it's the very basic shortcoming of current healthcare-based psychology that people who haven't studied one page of theory are able to understand even on an intuitive level. People are intuitively scared of psyche medication and there are good basic reasons for such an attitude, you don't even need theoretic language as what I am using here to articulate it. Some say it's self-protective instinct, but you really do not even need any notions of naturally inherited instincts to understand that there is something awry about violating the order and the autonomy of the cognitive processes from the completely wrong end as being influenced by outside chemicals is constantly shoving more uncorresponding material into your imaginary registry as you function in the world on a daily basis. And you can be pretty sure it's not going to be articulatable to even to the level of being attempted when there is absolutely nothing in the natural sense that produced it. It's all about the attempt to live within the symbolic order for us as human beings. In essence, attempting to live with ourselves and attempt to tolerate WHO WE REALLY ARE as people. Quite simple.

But hey, it's not like they put that thing on warning stickers on your bottle of psyche medication. People just want TO PARTY.

novabrkr said:

There are people who need psychiatric medication like diabetics need insulin.

Well, yeah sure. They are called "psychotics".

novabrkr said:

Depends what type of mental illness is being treated.

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novabrkr said:

Some people have a deficiency of serotonin in the same way that diabetics have a deficiency of insulin (for example). In the same way that there are medications for physical disorders, there are medications for disorders of the brain.

GangstaFam said:

That helped me a lot when I lost my dad. What's so good about it is that it's a time that you can actually put everything else aside and concentrate on your own feelings of loss. There was a lot of chaos going on around me when my dad passed, plus I had a lot of people I felt I needed to support, so having that time for me was very helpful.

novabrkr said:

psychotics are people too, you know!

novabrkr said:

I used to be totally against pills. And I'm still wary. I don't like the idea of them, and I always swore against it.

But yanno, pills aren't just for the person with the (for lack of better word) 'problem'. They are for the loved ones and people around that person too.

My husband is psychotic and horrible to live with, but now with meds things are much easier and he's more of a pleasure to have around now.

If he went off his meds I wouldn't be able to live with him anymore, and we have 2 children.

So what is more important? My kids having a father thats home every night and loving, or a psycho who won't take meds?