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JONES VS. WOODS! (HBO: Boxing) Did Anyone See This?

This fight didn't go as expected 2 me... Did anyone else see this?

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Jones Outclasses Woods to Defend Undisputed Crown
Sun Sep 8, 7:24 AM ET

PORTLAND, Oregon (Reuters) - Roy Jones Jr. easily retained his undisputed light-heavyweight title Saturday, outclassing Britain's Clinton Woods, whose corner stopped the fight during the sixth round.



"Skillfully, he is not on my level," said Jones, who improved his record to 47-1, with 38 knockouts in defending his unified titles for the seventh time.

"He was very spirited and had a big heart."

With few worthy contenders left in the light-heavyweight division, Jones appears to be forced into a move up to heavyweight, and is being linked with a possible match against WBA champion John Ruiz.

"People want to see how I fair," Jones said.

"I feel pretty good tonight and if I get in shape, I could do that for the title. I just want to see how the public is going to react, I want it to be a big event.

"If the public wants it, that is what I will do."

Jones also raised the possibility of meeting highly regarded light-heavyweight contender Antonio Tarver, who represented the United States at the 1996 Olympics.

After a lengthy ring entrance that included the theme from the film "Shaft," a half-dozen dancing girls in hot pants and a rap number by Jones, it became apparent that the champion was the superior boxer as he tagged Woods repeatedly with his blazing hand speed in the opening round.

Woods (32-2) kept coming forward and tried to smother Jones along the ropes.

But the champion dazzled the challenger with his superior footwork and ring craft.

In the third round, Jones landed a crunching left to body that had Woods wincing as the bell sounded.

With Woods protecting his body to start the fourth, Jones mixed his world-class hand speed with some showboating and opened a cut on the inside of the challenger's left eyebrow.

Woods came out fighting in the fifth but was no match for Jones as he again was hurt by a body shot a minute into the round.

In the next round, one of his corner men came onto the ring apron with a towel, getting referee Jay Nady's attention, who promptly sent the challenger back to his corner.

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I couldn't believe his corner threw in the towel! I was pissed! I honestly feel Clinton could have gone a few more rounds and maybe something would have happened! He showed great stamina and got in a few great shots at Lewis.

RE: Roy Jones, Jr. - After that very ridiculous entrance, including full Rap show (by Roy), dancers, lights, explosions, elevator...etc), all I could think about was what a farce he's become. Enough with the theatrics!

I'd like 2 see a more serious fighter take his titles...still, can no one beat the lightening quick jabs he dishes out?
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Reply #1 posted 09/09/02 11:20am

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Yeah, i saw it on BBC 2, it was quite close in the early rounds, then Jones stepted it up.

I think if the fight continued, Clinton would have been ko'ed, he wasn't throwin any punches back, Jones was simplay 2 fast.

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Reply #2 posted 09/09/02 11:27am

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Roy Jones sucks and refuses to fight anyone.

Roy will not fight the Linear Light Heavyweight champion Dariusz Michalczewski, Bernard Hopkins, Antonio Tarver, Vasily Jirov, etc. Jirov agreed to ALL of Jones' terms and signed the contract to fight and then Jones backed out of the fight. Jones now claims that he wants to fight John Ruiz... that is silly shit. We KNOW that Jones cannot beat John Ruiz, even though John Ruiz is one of the crappiest heavyweights out there. Jones is doing this to divert attention from his lack of quality opposition.

Why is a guy who is a 100:1 underdog even in a title fight. No offense to Clinton Woods, he came to fight and tried to win.

Roy Jones COULD be one of the greatest fighters of all-time if he would EVER take a fucking risk. Until he steps up and takes a risk, I will consider him to be a ducker and a coward.

BTW: I honestly think that Jones could beat Jirov and become the Cruiserweight champion. The only problem is that it wouldn't be an easy fight for him and he is unwilling to take the risk.

He could probably beat Dariusz Michalczewski as well, but he is unwilling to make the fight happen.
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Reply #3 posted 09/09/02 11:29am

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i don't know whut it is you did'nt see,
but woods corner did whut they had to do, they just did it too soon.
but then i would have liked to see him, woods, thrash to
within an inch of his life.
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Reply #4 posted 09/09/02 11:55am

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...In watching Jones, I think people are missing what he means to the sport and it's history. regardless of what you may think of him as a fighter, he DID, in fact, fight the #1 ranked challenger in Clinton Woods. t's not his fault he was placed in that position.

Also, has people forgotten what he did to Bernard Hopkins when they fought??? He made him look old and slow then, and all that with one hand (Jones had injured his right hand during the fight). And, if you think Darius M. has a shot against him, you are crazy!! He'd knock him out just the same. As far as Tarver...well, I have just as much chance of beating Roy as Antonio would. Tarver would be on his back by round 4!!

Simply put, this man is miles ahead of any other fighter fighting today. Not Mosley, not Oscar, not old ass Hopkins, not ANYONE can competer with hios talent and skill.

Sure, you may not like the choice of opponents he is facing, but his ability can't be denied. He is the P4P best there is...period!!

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Reply #5 posted 09/09/02 12:02pm

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ThirdStrike said:

...In watching Jones, I think people are missing what he means to the sport and it's history. regardless of what you may think of him as a fighter, he DID, in fact, fight the #1 ranked challenger in Clinton Woods. t's not his fault he was placed in that position.

Also, has people forgotten what he did to Bernard Hopkins when they fought??? He made him look old and slow then, and all that with one hand (Jones had injured his right hand during the fight). And, if you think Darius M. has a shot against him, you are crazy!! He'd knock him out just the same. As far as Tarver...well, I have just as much chance of beating Roy as Antonio would. Tarver would be on his back by round 4!!

Simply put, this man is miles ahead of any other fighter fighting today. Not Mosley, not Oscar, not old ass Hopkins, not ANYONE can competer with hios talent and skill.

Sure, you may not like the choice of opponents he is facing, but his ability can't be denied. He is the P4P best there is...period!!

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There is no doubt that Jones has a TON of talent, but real champions take challenges instead of fighting meaningless mandatories...

The champion makes the belt, not the other way around.
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Reply #6 posted 09/09/02 12:11pm

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I agree, to an extent IceNine. I've always had that same complaint against Oscar...choosing to be rich instead of GREAT. So, to that, I would have to agree.

It's just that I think we both know what he is capable of (Jones), so you tend to take him a little for granted. But, make no mistake about what he could do if he were take those "risks" as you put it...
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Reply #7 posted 09/09/02 12:42pm

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ThirdStrike said:

I agree, to an extent IceNine. I've always had that same complaint against Oscar...choosing to be rich instead of GREAT. So, to that, I would have to agree.

It's just that I think we both know what he is capable of (Jones), so you tend to take him a little for granted. But, make no mistake about what he could do if he were take those "risks" as you put it...



Yep... I have always said that Roy Jones is capable of GREAT things in boxing, he just needs to do them. He has the most natural talent and speed of any boxer out there today and he could be one of the greatest ever if he actually put his mind to it and tried.

Right now he is spending far too much time worrying about protecting his belts and far too little time taking any meaningful challenges.

All of the great fighters have taken the tough fights and have wanted to fight the toughest fighters... the pride that they felt was not in their belts, but in their abilities. Jones is too worried about belts and is disregarding his legacy. He knocked Virgil Hill out with a body shot, for god's sake... where is that guy now?

I used to be a HUGE fan of RJ... when he was fighting people. I would be a HUGE fan again if he would step up and do like so many others have done and say "fuck you" to the sanctioning bodies and fight the fights that define a great fighter.

You know what I'm saying?
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Reply #8 posted 09/09/02 12:50pm

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I do know what you're saying, but I am STILL one of those "huge fans" you were hinting at. And, I too think he has not only the most talent in the sport today, but potentially the most talent of any fighter in history (Ali and Robinson included). I grew up watching greats like Ray Leonard (my all-time fav), Tommy Hearns, Marvin Hagler, Evander Holyfield, etc...and, I thought after watching Sugar Ray's insatiable appetite for winning, and his instinct for the KO, that'd be it for me. But, watching Roy go to work, I accept he's my generations Ali!!

As far as the reference to the Roy that KO's Hill with a shot to the ribs, he's still alive and well...as is the Roy who said "fuck you" to Montell Griffen after he was unjustly DQ'd in their first fight and knocked the shit out of him in about 100 seconds!! And, I'll say this now...you will once again see that Roy when he fights Grandpa Hopkins or Overrated Antonio Tarver!! That's no joke.

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Reply #9 posted 09/09/02 1:01pm

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ThirdStrike said:

I do know what you're saying, but I am STILL one of those "huge fans" you were hinting at. And, I too think he has not only the most talent in the sport today, but potentially the most talent of any fighter in history (Ali and Robinson included). I grew up watching greats like Ray Leonard (my all-time fav), Tommy Hearns, Marvin Hagler, Evander Holyfield, etc...and, I thought after watching Sugar Ray's insatiable appetite for winning, and his instinct for the KO, that'd be it for me. But, watching Roy go to work, I accept he's my generations Ali!!

As far as the reference to the Roy that KO's Hill with a shot to the ribs, he's still alive and well...as is the Roy who said "fuck you" to Montell Griffen after he was unjustly DQ'd in their first fight and knocked the shit out of him in about 100 seconds!! And, I'll say this now...you will once again see that Roy when he fights Grandpa Hopkins or Overrated Antonio Tarver!! That's no joke.

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I sincerely hope that the vicious Jones will re-emerge soon. I remember him saying that he does not want to hurt anyone and holds back on his power... I think this was after Gerald McClellan got badly injured.
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Reply #10 posted 09/09/02 1:06pm

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his plan is to do Tarver or Ruiz next...
his demands on his safety, and the amount of money he'll make for a fight, is only overshadowed by the idea that
everyone hails him #1 in the world.
if he was hungry...he'ld fight.
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Reply #11 posted 09/09/02 1:08pm

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00769BAD said:

his plan is to do Tarver or Ruiz next...
his demands on his safety, and the amount of money he'll make for a fight, is only overshadowed by the idea that
everyone hails him #1 in the world.
if he was hungry...he'ld fight.



Ruiz will beat Jones... not because Ruiz is good, mind you... just because Ruiz outweighs him by 50 pounds.
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Reply #12 posted 09/09/02 1:12pm

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00769BAD said:

his plan is to do Tarver or Ruiz next... his demands on his safety, and the amount of money he'll make for a fight, is only overshadowed by the idea that everyone hails him #1 in the world.
if he was hungry...he'ld fight.



Best response yet... I wholeheartedly agree, but Roy Jones, Jr. hasn't been hungry in a very, very long time.

I agree with Ice... he'll continue 2 fight whomever they throw in front of him, not who deserves it; or who is more challenging.
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Reply #13 posted 09/09/02 2:17pm

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Read this...very interesting, and helps to explain my points regarding

Jones.http://espn.go.com/boxing/columns/kellerman_max/1429488.html
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Reply #14 posted 09/09/02 2:19pm

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...I'm sorry, that one doesn't work. I meant this

http://espn.go.com/boxing...29488.html
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Reply #15 posted 09/09/02 2:20pm

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ThirdStrike said:

Read this...very interesting, and helps to explain my points regarding

Jones.http://espn.go.com/boxing/columns/kellerman_max/1429488.html



I just can't get with Kellerman, by the way. He will kiss certain guy's asses like nobodies business... but I will give the article a read.

Kellerman sucks, although he knows a TON about boxing... a fucking human boxing encylopedia that guy is.
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Reply #16 posted 09/09/02 2:27pm

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...not realy much interpretation. This article sites fact, as you will see when you read it.

There is no arguing stats...smile

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Reply #17 posted 09/09/02 4:10pm

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I'm tired of watching him fight GARBAGE fighters.He's just collecting paychecks.If the public stops supporting this crap he will have to take a chance and fight someone who could fight back.
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Reply #18 posted 09/09/02 5:18pm

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ThirdStrike said:

...I'm sorry, that one doesn't work. I meant this

http://espn.go.com/boxing...29488.html

Excellent article. Thanks biggrin

I have to say that Roy Jones Jnr is the most talented boxer I have seen. He compares favourably to Sugar Ray Robinson imho (from videos I have seen) who just about has to be the best boxer ever.

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Reply #19 posted 09/09/02 5:54pm

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Sugar Ray was a great fighter, but his record was padded with some real tomato can opponents.

http://www.boxrec.com/box..._id=009625
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