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Thread started 01/23/07 4:45am

XxAxX

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Please consider donating money to stop the slaughter of wolves. even a little will help

wolves are intelligent, highly social animals. our treatment of them reflects directly upon who we are. unbelievably, in violation of the federal airborne hunting act, a mass slaughter of wolves is being planned:

http://donate.defenders.o...n_homepage

and

Defenders of Wildlife can be contacted at:
1130 17th Street, NW
Washington, DC 20036



this is an excerpt:

Things aren’t looking good for Northern Rockies wolves.

At a Boise rally of anti-wolf zealots, Idaho Governor “Butch” Otter told the crowd, "I'm prepared to bid for that first ticket to shoot a wolf myself." He then endorsed a plan to kill 54 of the state’s 65 packs -- over 80 percent of the state’s wolves.

In Wyoming, the state legislature is moving forward with a bill to “aggressively manage” their wolf populations by killing up to 66% of wolves in their state outside national park boundaries.

We need your help to stop them. Please support our work with your emergency gift of $100, $50, $35 or another amount.

Any day now, the Bush-Cheney Administration could sanction the largest massacre of wolves to occur in the lower 48 states in decades. And in Wyoming and Idaho, state governments are preparing plans to make it happen.

These irresponsible proposals could even lead to the killing of Yellowstone wolves. As individuals and packs cross park boundaries, they would find themselves directly in the line of fire.

Defenders of Wildlife is working hard on the ground, fighting against what would be the most significant setback in wolf recovery in decades.

We’ve already mobilized more than 47,000 activists to urge the Fish & Wildlife Service to keep protections for wolves in place. Northern Rockies Representative Suzanne Stone has given dozens of media interviews and is coordinating with state and local conservation groups, ranchers and sportsmen to stop these misguided plans.

And that’s not all we’re doing. We’re rallying our activists on the ground, launching public education campaigns and are preparing for legal action to ensure protection for Western wolves.

But we’re going to need your help. Your tax-deductible emergency donation will help prevent a Northern Rockies wolf slaughter.

The future of our wolves depends on you.
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Reply #1 posted 01/23/07 4:51am

Natisse

shake omg when will humans ever learn sad ...we are SUCH a virus to the earth and life on it, I swear

thank you for making us all aware of this XxAxX rose
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Reply #2 posted 01/23/07 4:58am

SureThing

Its a lovely idea, really. Poor wolves. sad

But I am NOT giving my money to wolves! lol
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Reply #3 posted 01/23/07 5:01am

DanceWme

SureThing said:

Its a lovely idea, really. Poor wolves. sad

But I am NOT giving my money to wolves! lol

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Reply #4 posted 01/23/07 5:53am

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What's the problem? Why do these people want this cull? And why such a large one?
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Reply #5 posted 01/23/07 6:08am

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I didn't even know there were "anti-wolf zealots" in this day and age. disbelief I thought people were more educated than that by now. confused

It's just really sad. sad I think I'll donate something.

I just visited the International Wolf Center in Ely, MN in October actually.

http://www.wolf.org/wolves/index.asp

Here are some pics we took of a couple of the wolves there...



mushy
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Reply #6 posted 01/23/07 6:11am

SureThing

They are SO SO SO SO SO cute.
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Reply #7 posted 01/23/07 6:18am

IrresistibleB1
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will do. thanks for posting this, Xx!
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Reply #8 posted 01/23/07 6:20am

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I just don't see how something like this could even pass. You can't just say, "oh there is too many of them now so we need to get rid of most of them". Or at least, not in this country. There has to be real, real concern to have something this drastic take place.

I don't get the beef against wolves at all. There is no reason for farmers to lose their livestock to them. The solution to losing livestock is a real simple one. It's called livestock guard dogs, like the Akbash dog. Cheap and extremely effective.

Culls are completely ineffective anyway. They should have figured this out by now. Human intervention on population numbers is the most useless idea ever. rolleyes

Human encroachment on wildlife habitat makes me ill.
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Reply #9 posted 01/23/07 6:23am

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IrresistibleB1tch said:

will do. thanks for posting this, Xx!



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Reply #10 posted 01/23/07 6:24am

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JustErin said:

I just don't see how something like this could even pass. You can't just say, "oh there is too many of them now so we need to get rid of most of them". Or at least, not in this country. There has to be real, real concern to have something this drastic take place.

I don't get the beef against wolves at all. There is no reason for farmers to lose their livestock to them. The solution to losing livestock is a real simple one. It's called livestock guard dogs, like the Akbash dog. Cheap and extremely effective.

Culls are completely ineffective anyway. They should have figured this out by now. Human intervention on population numbers is the most useless idea ever. rolleyes

Human encroachment on wildlife habitat makes me ill.



control of human population would help the most. but noooo, us vicious little monkeys, we should breed and breed and breed until our demand for land completely obliterates the habitat of other animals.
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Reply #11 posted 01/23/07 6:25am

XxAxX

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the Federal Airborne Hunting Act should prohibit snipers from shooting wolves from helicopters but no....


damn. this stuff breaks my heart
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Reply #12 posted 01/23/07 6:26am

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XxAxX said:

JustErin said:

I just don't see how something like this could even pass. You can't just say, "oh there is too many of them now so we need to get rid of most of them". Or at least, not in this country. There has to be real, real concern to have something this drastic take place.

I don't get the beef against wolves at all. There is no reason for farmers to lose their livestock to them. The solution to losing livestock is a real simple one. It's called livestock guard dogs, like the Akbash dog. Cheap and extremely effective.

Culls are completely ineffective anyway. They should have figured this out by now. Human intervention on population numbers is the most useless idea ever. rolleyes

Human encroachment on wildlife habitat makes me ill.



control of human population would help the most. but noooo, us vicious little monkeys, we should breed and breed and breed until our demand for land completely obliterates the habitat of other animals.


I know. sad
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Reply #13 posted 01/23/07 6:27am

retina

JustErin said:

Human intervention on population numbers is the most useless idea ever. rolleyes


Agreed. I don't understand what they're talking about when they say that the population of a certain animal has grown "too big". Too big for what? For their own good? Well if there isn't enough food for them then they will either move or die off by themselves. Nature has regulated itself for the planet's entire history. Or do they mean too big for the humans? As if humans have ever had a problem defending themselves against other species. rolleyes
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Reply #14 posted 01/23/07 6:29am

SureThing

retina said:

JustErin said:

Human intervention on population numbers is the most useless idea ever. rolleyes


Agreed. I don't understand what they're talking about when they say that the population of a certain animal has grown "too big". Too big for what? For their own good? Well if there isn't enough food for them then they will either move or die off by themselves. Nature has regulated itself for the planet's entire history. Or do they mean too big for the humans? As if humans have ever had a problem defending themselves against other species. rolleyes



I'm not even gonna pretend to know what yous are talking about.....

But I know when they say here that the pop is too big for there own good, its cuz the place is crawling with (deers) and they get hit by cars every other second.


The wolve are cute though.
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Reply #15 posted 01/23/07 6:30am

katt

Natisse said:

shake omg when will humans ever learn sad ...we are SUCH a virus to the earth and life on it, I swear

thank you for making us all aware of this XxAxX rose

Yes some humans are and I doubt we will ever learn until it is 2 late cry
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Reply #16 posted 01/23/07 6:32am

katt

minneapolisgenius said:

I didn't even know there were "anti-wolf zealots" in this day and age. disbelief I thought people were more educated than that by now. confused

It's just really sad. sad I think I'll donate something.

I just visited the International Wolf Center in Ely, MN in October actually.

http://www.wolf.org/wolves/index.asp

Here are some pics we took of a couple of the wolves there...



mushy

Beautiful pictures they are stunning animals.
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Reply #17 posted 01/23/07 6:34am

XxAxX

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katt said:

Natisse said:

shake omg when will humans ever learn sad ...we are SUCH a virus to the earth and life on it, I swear

thank you for making us all aware of this XxAxX rose

Yes some humans are and I doubt we will ever learn until it is 2 late cry



we have such a lovely planet, filled with intelligent life such as elephants and dolphins and crows and bears and wolves and cats and dogs... the list is too long for this page. and the more we learn about other animals the more we come to realize that they have social orders, lanugages, tool-making skills, etc.

what could be cooler than sharing a planet with so many diverse and beautiful species?

wouldn't it be nice of we could treat them with compassion?
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Reply #18 posted 01/23/07 6:36am

retina

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retina said:



Agreed. I don't understand what they're talking about when they say that the population of a certain animal has grown "too big". Too big for what? For their own good? Well if there isn't enough food for them then they will either move or die off by themselves. Nature has regulated itself for the planet's entire history. Or do they mean too big for the humans? As if humans have ever had a problem defending themselves against other species. rolleyes



I'm not even gonna pretend to know what yous are talking about.....

But I know when they say here that the pop is too big for there own good, its cuz the place is crawling with (deers) and they get hit by cars every other second.


The wolve are cute though.


So if humans enter for example wolf territory and get killed, does that mean we should kill off humans so it doesn't happen as often, you know, for our own good?

I say put up some wildlife fence if the deer are causing traffic problems. Simple. shrug

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Reply #19 posted 01/23/07 6:37am

katt

I will pass info(link) on XxAxX and donate today
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Reply #20 posted 01/23/07 6:39am

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SureThing said:

retina said:



Agreed. I don't understand what they're talking about when they say that the population of a certain animal has grown "too big". Too big for what? For their own good? Well if there isn't enough food for them then they will either move or die off by themselves. Nature has regulated itself for the planet's entire history. Or do they mean too big for the humans? As if humans have ever had a problem defending themselves against other species. rolleyes



I'm not even gonna pretend to know what yous are talking about.....

But I know when they say here that the pop is too big for there own good, its cuz the place is crawling with (deers) and they get hit by cars every other second.


The wolve are cute though.


See, deer get culled the most. They use car accidents and endangerment to humans as the reason to get culls pushed. It's sickening.

Deer populations increase and decrease on their own (as with all species), and we're not talking about drastic numbers. The problem is not numbers skyrocking, it's encroachment forcing them into smaller pockets, making it look like there are much more of them when in fact there are not.

The hunting season is the other reason why deer get hit so often. Ever notice that car/deer accidents seem to spike at certain times of the year? Deer accidents always rise during hunting season as the deer are simply fleeing the deep woods to avoid being blown away.
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Reply #21 posted 01/23/07 6:40am

SureThing

retina said:

SureThing said:




I'm not even gonna pretend to know what yous are talking about.....

But I know when they say here that the pop is too big for there own good, its cuz the place is crawling with (deers) and they get hit by cars every other second.


The wolve are cute though.


So if humans enter for example wolf territory and get killed, does that mean we should kill off humans so it doesn't happen as often, you know, for our own good?

I say put up some wildlife fence if the deer are causing traffic problems. Simple. shrug

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Don't get me involved. I don't want the animals to get killed either.

Just tellin ya what it means here.

It's prob like the second leading cause of automobile accidents here. The first prob DUI. sad

You know how shit works, its cheaper to kill them than put fences up.
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Reply #22 posted 01/23/07 6:40am

XxAxX

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katt said:

I will pass info(link) on XxAxX and donate today



thank you. i wish i were wealthy enough to personally donate the $75,000 they need...

that amount of money would be what? one shopping trip for paris hilton? one bentley lease and matching shiny suits for prince? donald trump's dinner for five?

sorry. down on humankind today, i am
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Reply #23 posted 01/23/07 6:40am

SureThing

JustErin said:

SureThing said:




I'm not even gonna pretend to know what yous are talking about.....

But I know when they say here that the pop is too big for there own good, its cuz the place is crawling with (deers) and they get hit by cars every other second.


The wolve are cute though.


See, deer get culled the most. They use car accidents and endangerment to humans as the reason to get culls pushed. It's sickening.

Deer populations increase and decrease on their own (as with all species), and we're not talking about drastic numbers. The problem is not numbers skyrocking, it's encroachment forcing them into smaller pockets, making it look like there are much more of them when in fact there are not.

The hunting season is the other reason why deer get hit so often. Ever notice that car/deer accidents seem to spike at certain times of the year? Deer accidents always rise during hunting season as the deer are simply fleeing the deep woods to avoid being blown away.


THAT is true. I forgot about that. nod
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Reply #24 posted 01/23/07 6:42am

katt

XxAxX said:

katt said:


Yes some humans are and I doubt we will ever learn until it is 2 late cry



we have such a lovely planet, filled with intelligent life such as elephants and dolphins and crows and bears and wolves and cats and dogs... the list is too long for this page. and the more we learn about other animals the more we come to realize that they have social orders, lanugages, tool-making skills, etc.

what could be cooler than sharing a planet with so many diverse and beautiful species?

wouldn't it be nice of we could treat them with compassion?

nod I totally agree. I live surrounded by animals try and help where I can I just wish others would understand how wonderful animals are, I personally believe they are more intelligent than humans.
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Reply #25 posted 01/23/07 6:43am

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retina said:

SureThing said:




I'm not even gonna pretend to know what yous are talking about.....

But I know when they say here that the pop is too big for there own good, its cuz the place is crawling with (deers) and they get hit by cars every other second.


The wolve are cute though.


So if humans enter for example wolf territory and get killed, does that mean we should kill off humans so it doesn't happen as often, you know, for our own good?

I say put up some wildlife fence if the deer are causing traffic problems. Simple. shrug

.


Actually, it's really not that simple. You can't just fence them in either.
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Reply #26 posted 01/23/07 6:46am

retina

JustErin said:

retina said:



So if humans enter for example wolf territory and get killed, does that mean we should kill off humans so it doesn't happen as often, you know, for our own good?

I say put up some wildlife fence if the deer are causing traffic problems. Simple. shrug

.


Actually, it's really not that simple. You can't just fence them in either.


You're not fencing them in, you're fencing them out. And only where there are a lot of traffic problems.

I do hear what you're saying about the humans moving the animals around and concentrating them in certain spots though. What is the best way of dealing with that, in your opinion?

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Reply #27 posted 01/23/07 6:50am

gemini13

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wolves are intelligent, highly social animals. our treatment of them reflects directly upon who we are. unbelievably, in violation of the federal airborne hunting act, a mass slaughter of wolves is being planned:

http://donate.defenders.o...n_homepage

and

Defenders of Wildlife can be contacted at:
1130 17th Street, NW
Washington, DC 20036



this is an excerpt:

Things aren’t looking good for Northern Rockies wolves.

At a Boise rally of anti-wolf zealots, Idaho Governor “Butch” Otter told the crowd, "I'm prepared to bid for that first ticket to shoot a wolf myself." He then endorsed a plan to kill 54 of the state’s 65 packs -- over 80 percent of the state’s wolves.

In Wyoming, the state legislature is moving forward with a bill to “aggressively manage” their wolf populations by killing up to 66% of wolves in their state outside national park boundaries.

We need your help to stop them. Please support our work with your emergency gift of $100, $50, $35 or another amount.

Any day now, the Bush-Cheney Administration could sanction the largest massacre of wolves to occur in the lower 48 states in decades. And in Wyoming and Idaho, state governments are preparing plans to make it happen.

These irresponsible proposals could even lead to the killing of Yellowstone wolves. As individuals and packs cross park boundaries, they would find themselves directly in the line of fire.

Defenders of Wildlife is working hard on the ground, fighting against what would be the most significant setback in wolf recovery in decades.

We’ve already mobilized more than 47,000 activists to urge the Fish & Wildlife Service to keep protections for wolves in place. Northern Rockies Representative Suzanne Stone has given dozens of media interviews and is coordinating with state and local conservation groups, ranchers and sportsmen to stop these misguided plans.

And that’s not all we’re doing. We’re rallying our activists on the ground, launching public education campaigns and are preparing for legal action to ensure protection for Western wolves.

But we’re going to need your help. Your tax-deductible emergency donation will help prevent a Northern Rockies wolf slaughter.

The future of our wolves depends on you.


Ugh, Boise! That explains everything.

It really makes me angry when people bitch and moan about wolves and mountain lions encroaching in their neighborhoods.

Umm, hello????? You've kinna got that backwards!!!
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Reply #28 posted 01/23/07 6:50am

katt

XxAxX said:

katt said:

I will pass info(link) on XxAxX and donate today



thank you. i wish i were wealthy enough to personally donate the $75,000 they need...

that amount of money would be what? one shopping trip for paris hilton? one bentley lease and matching shiny suits for prince? donald trump's dinner for five?

sorry. down on humankind today, i am

I wish I also could do more but all we can do is try our best. The internet is a powerful tool lets see if we all can make it work for good. I will email and post the information right now 2 all that I know maybe we will get them the amount they need by the end of the week if we all do this. hug
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Reply #29 posted 01/23/07 6:54am

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retina said:

JustErin said:



Actually, it's really not that simple. You can't just fence them in either.


You're not fencing them in, you're fencing them out. And only where there are a lot of traffic problems.

I do hear what you're saying about the humans moving the animals around and concentrating them in certain spots though. What is the best way of dealing with that, in your opinion?

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I really don't know of a really effective solution and I'm not even gonna pretend that I do. If I did, I'd be busting my ass trying to make some changes.

The only solution is to stop development and that's never, ever going to happen, so I dunno. shrug

As for hitting wildlife, people need to slow the fuck down and be cognisant of their surroundings. Just doing that would save lives, both animal and human.
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