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PrintableHeiress said: jone70 said: No, I don't think that's always the case. I know people who are adopted who are nothing like their families. hmm, i'm thinking there must be deeper similarities, not something necessarily obvious... what makes a person choose one child over another? [Edited 1/10/07 23:41pm] Presuppositions they've built up in their head. These may be good or bad, but damn give a kid a chance! 
And I think people are misinterpreting Joilie's affectionate use of the word "blob" here. From what I understand the reporter threw the word at her.D on't get all hung up on it. There's nothing necessarily wrong, or even avoidable probably, about projecting certain traits onto your children (or, as we've seen here, on others), just don't pretend it's anything but that. The rest of what she says leaves a lot to be desired... [Edited 1/11/07 11:33am] | |
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2the9s said: The rest of what she says leaves a lot to be desired...
In fact she's doing just the opposite: she's romanticizing the whole adoption thing, which has its own set of problems. | |
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jone70 said: Heiress said: if you adopt a kid, you get one something like yourself, don't you suppose?
No, I don't think that's always the case. I know people who are adopted who are nothing like their families. My mom is white, and I'm adopted from India. She knew from the get go that I would look different, but it didn't matter because she wanted a baby so much. She got a lot of rude comments, stares, and questions when she took me out. She didn't care. She loved me so much that no stupid person could ruin it for her. Wanna hear me sing?  www.ChampagneHoneybee.com | |
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retina said: JustErin said: Well, I am just going by personal experience of raising a child and being around all of my brother's children when they were newborns. And I respect that experience. In fact, I feel like a dick for having the nerve to speak about newborns when I'm not even a parent myself. I do however have some experiences of my own anyway, and those are what I speak of. It's interesting that they don't match yours. One day you will have a few blobs of your own, with a very lucky lady  | |
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JustErin said: I do find it interesting that so many parents on this thread considered their own newborns to be blobs though. Maybe you just didn't compare them to other so-called "blobs"? The differences are subtle, but I'd definitely say that they exist.
 OK I have had 3 blobs, they were all pretty much the same  for the first 3-4 weeks. Oscar would grimace when pooping, Wally had cross eyes, um... I don't know, they really were like having the same baby 3 times over. | |
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UCantHavaDaMango said: jone70 said: No, I don't think that's always the case. I know people who are adopted who are nothing like their families. My mom is white, and I'm adopted from India. She knew from the get go that I would look different, but it didn't matter because she wanted a baby so much. She got a lot of rude comments, stares, and questions when she took me out. She didn't care. She loved me so much that no stupid person could ruin it for her. That's a physical example, but I actually meant different in the core of their being. I don't know how to articulate what I mean, but for example, consider an adopted child who grew up in a homogenous, conservative family/community but always knew that those were not their values/beliefs. The adopted family could have never chosen a baby that would match all their values--one makes those decisions based on several factors over many years; but no one can make you change your beliefs. It happens with biological children, too; you can't choose what personality your baby will have--regardless of whether they are adopted or biological. The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp. | |
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BlueOrchid said: retina said: And I respect that experience. In fact, I feel like a dick for having the nerve to speak about newborns when I'm not even a parent myself. I do however have some experiences of my own anyway, and those are what I speak of. It's interesting that they don't match yours. One day you will have a few blobs of your own, with a very lucky lady Are you volunteering?  | |
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retina said: BlueOrchid said: One day you will have a few blobs of your own, with a very lucky lady Are you volunteering?  
Hopefully our blob will have your intelligence..it might even have a personality before it's 6 months old! | |
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BlueOrchid said: 
Hopefully our blob will have your intelligence..
Poor blob. 
it might even have a personality before it's 6 months old!
It definitely will. We can name it Blob anyway though, as a homage to this thread.  | |
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ZombieKitten said: JustErin said: I do find it interesting that so many parents on this thread considered their own newborns to be blobs though. Maybe you just didn't compare them to other so-called "blobs"? The differences are subtle, but I'd definitely say that they exist.
OK I have had 3 blobs, they were all pretty much the same for the first 3-4 weeks. Oscar would grimace when pooping, Wally had cross eyes, um... I don't know, they really were like having the same baby 3 times over.I didn't say that! Retina did!  | |
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JustErin said: ZombieKitten said: OK I have had 3 blobs, they were all pretty much the same for the first 3-4 weeks. Oscar would grimace when pooping, Wally had cross eyes, um... I don't know, they really were like having the same baby 3 times over.I didn't say that! Retina did! oops! so he did - there must have been a quoting glitch in your post | |
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jone70 said: Heiress said: hmm, i'm thinking there must be deeper similarities, not something necessarily obvious... what makes a person choose one child over another? [Edited 1/10/07 23:41pm] Adopted children (I'm talking about babies here) are not chosen by the adoptive families. It's not like going to the pound and picking out a dog. 
who said that they were? (very odd supposition on your part) how do any two people meet each other, period? is it by chance? i guess i'm delving into a deeper philosophical question than it seems at the surface... | |
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