I mean really, if it's not the comics, it's in the movies or it's on a cartoon. Take for example the Justice League animated film, Supes is getting beat all over the place. How can The Greatest Hero of All Time who happens to be invulnerable, get caught in some goo machine?

ok i gave him the Kryptonite thing. Ok fine...everyone has to have a weakness but lately (and I mean like years), he has been getting his boy scout ass beat.

I just don't get it.

He's no wimp once he gets that uniform on

luv4u said:

well when i say he's getting his ass kicked, it's in his uniform. otherwise, no one would know it's Superman.

Superhero's suck

Milty said:

hi Milty!

Milty said:

He never gets his ass kicked when he's wearing his office clothes with his geeky glasses as Clark Kent.

Try wearing blue all-body pantyhose on yourself and see how long you will last in the public.

He's wearing underwear for the world to see, and he doesn't even have a semi-prominent penis line. It's like he's packing nothing between the legs.

Imago said:

Let me explain. I'd assume the evolutionary process on Krypton has robbed Superman of his genetalia. He concieves through mystical methods the writers havn't smoked enough skunk to explain yet. But why has the process of natural selection shrunk the men of Krypton's willies?, I hear you query. Well, due to the infinite but cylindrical nature of our universe (a bubble bubbling off the multiverse - think of a soapy sink), if Superman had sex he'd not only shoot his seed straight through the skull of the lady (or fellow) with his shotgun ejaculation, but said semen would be fired at such a humanly untangible perception beyond lightspeed it would eventually hit him on the back of the head, killing him as well as his paramour. It wouldn't be a pretty sight for the police and Columbo himself wouldn't be able to figure out the chain of events.

Number23 said:

Number23 said:

ah i see. so that's why he's a big Nancy

Milty said:

That's all it is. He just doesn't want to shoot himself in the back of the head with his own semen.

Milty said:

Since Superman is invulnerable and has the strength to move a planet, he has no worthy opponents except for Lex Luther, Darkseid, and Doomsday.

Krytonite said:

He technically is a sponge...he absorbs the sun's energy and that gives him his strength. What you describe he should not technically be doing moving planets and such....Just because people write him doing it does not mean he should be.

Thing is (and this is all my opinion mind you) he is a flawed character. His perfection makes him nearly impossible to write a believable story for him. If any of you have read the comic Invincible there is a character there that is a Superman type. He defeats enemies in seconds saves the world in minutes and has the same powers as Superman. But the comic wasn't about him he was but a suporting character cause if he is unstoppable and its about him why even read it?

Superman gets into way too many slugfests all the while we are to believe him to be clever. If he was clever he would use his super speed all the time and just knock Lex Luthor on his ass instead of talking with him. So they lower his power, IQ, make things made of Kryptonite ect ect but that gets old.

Without peral, there is no drama.
Without drama, there is no story.

Sinister said:

but that's the thing about Superman is that he's such a boy scout. he'd rather talk it out b4 slapping Lex into next year.

i tell you this for free....Batman ain't having none of it. he will slap you.

Milty said:

But if you notice he is only a boyscout in some instances now...if he is rolling with Batman then he is a bit more hard. It just depends on how he is written at the time...

Sinister said:

i dunno. he's always asking Batman dumb stuff like ,"why'd you kick that nun in the head?".

upon which Bats replies,"cuz she was asking for it".

Milty said:

lol well not in the current stuff...it's more of a mutual respect thing now...and Superman is no boyscout anymore...

Sinister said:

Why not?

Krytonite said:

DC has toned down Supes' strength since they revamped him in 1986(which was the smart thing to do). He's still top dawg, but the planet-moving sh!t is out.

scififilmnerd said:

Mainly they made him more realistic...You can have values but you don't have to be a carebear about it. It makes him more interesting as a character.

It's kind of like how I'm alwasy kicking LeeLlee's ass.



Same thing.

2the9s said:

I like Superman. I've even got a Superman t-shirt.

scififilmnerd said:

i got a Green Lantern t-shirt. i like Green Lantern.

Krytonite said:

Well said Kryptonite.


This is my take on it, from 1938 to 1986 - SUPES was pretty much invincible and could indeed move planets!... something had 2 be done, so in a huge revamp after CRISIS on INFINITE EARTHS (JediMaster back me up) - he was depowered considerably, no longer able 2 move planets, SUPES now breaks a sweat lifting an aeroplane, it just makes it a fair fight an a lot more interesting, otherwise, where's the challenge, and then of course, there's KRYPTONITE.

SUPES did go toe 2 toe in a smackdown with CAPTAIN MARVEL (SHAZAM!) in The Justice League Unlimited animated series and came out on top by using his brains and experience.

Young Clark in the SMALLVILLE tv series seems 2 do pretty well 4 himself again, except when KRYPTONITE is involved and with a bunch of Phantom Zone crims running around loose on Earth in SEASON 6 - it's also making it interesting.

But enuff geekiness, I have more than a few SUPERMAN t-shirts, don't think he's a wimp, but rather the first and greatest SUPERHERO of them all, sure BATMAN, SPIDEY, WOLVERINE and the rest are all cooler, but there's a God-like majesty that only SUPES has, and all those dudes look up 2 him...



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RONNYRON said:

That 1986 revamp got me reading DC superheroes again. I ignored them in favor of the much cooler Marvel characters. But John Byrne's 6-issue "Man of Steel", Frank Miller's "Dark Knight Returns" and George Perez's work on Wonder Woman brought me back. Today, the stories are out of sight, and Supes has better villains to fight(Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Mongol, Imperiex).

After Joss Whedon finishes the Wonder Woman film, I'd like Warner/DC to work on Justice League. They can start off with Supes, Batman, WW and introduce the Martian Manhunter.