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Serious said: CarrieMpls said: I was told that you must throw the coin from your right hand over your left shoulder (so behind you) as well. One coin means you will return to Rome, 2 coins you will fall in love and 3 coins you will get married and return to Rome. I think. In any case I threw 3 coins and I've yet to get a date out of it, nor have I returned.  I am not the kind of person who believes in things like that, so I threw in one cent and thought nothing would happen and I still cannot believe my wish came true the very next day in a way it was totally unlikely to happen  .
So who knows what magic things might happen to you one day  .oh hey, here's hoping!  I had a plan to marry the man who worked behind the counter in the lovely little hotel I stayed at in Florence. But I was too shy to tell him my plan. It may still come to pass! And then we can go to Rome together.  |
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CarrieMpls said: Serious said: I am not the kind of person who believes in things like that, so I threw in one cent and thought nothing would happen and I still cannot believe my wish came true the very next day in a way it was totally unlikely to happen .
So who knows what magic things might happen to you one day .oh hey, here's hoping! I had a plan to marry the man who worked behind the counter in the lovely little hotel I stayed at in Florence. But I was too shy to tell him my plan. It may still come to pass! And then we can go to Rome together. Exactly   With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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SammiJ said: Natisse said: was that an insult of some kind?  i take it as such... i unno 
i'm not sure if it is, but *tidbit alert* if you've ever said "i've been jipped/gypped" it's taken from that certain situation bev brought up so i've always kinda stayed away from that term  It's not an insult. The German tour guide explained to my tour group what they are and what they do and used the word Gypsies. Gypsies refer to themselves as Roma The tour guide mentioned they make a living preying on tourists, etc. They are a wandering ethnic group who have no home. They live all over Europe. Nothing to do with the word being jipped nor was I being slanderous. Just passed on a warning to Nat. A group tried to approach me, and when I looked at them through my sun glasses to let them know I was aware of them, they backed off. There are all kinds of criminals anywhere. Nat, one more thing..... if you have a purse hold onto it tightly, watch out for mopeds. People committing a crime like to drive by and grab a purse. That's another thing the German guide warned the women about in the group. Before you assume anything, best thing to do is ask instead of trying to make it into something it's not. http://www.geocities.com/...5121/vlib/ 
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moderatorluv4u said: SammiJ said: i take it as such... i unno
i'm not sure if it is, but *tidbit alert* if you've ever said "i've been jipped/gypped" it's taken from that certain situation bev brought up so i've always kinda stayed away from that term It's not an insult. The German tour guide explained to my tour group what they are and what they do and used the word Gypsies. Gypsies refer to themselves as Roma The tour guide mentioned they make a living preying on tourists, etc. They are a wandering ethnic group who have no home. They live all over Europe. Nothing to do with the word being jipped nor was I being slanderous. Just passed on a warning to Nat. A group tried to approach me, and when I looked at them through my sun glasses to let them know I was aware of them, they backed off. There are all kinds of criminals anywhere. Nat, one more thing..... if you have a purse hold onto it tightly, watch out for mopeds. People committing a crime like to drive by and grab a purse. That's another thing the German guide warned the women about in the group. Before you assume anything, best thing to do is ask instead of trying to make it into something it's not. Well as you mention that your tour guide was German he could have mentioned that the term "Zigeuner" (German translation of gypsy) is a derogative term for Roma, Sinti etc.. Just saying  . Maybe the English term gypsy is not, don't know, but the German term is.With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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luv4u said: Nat, one more thing..... if you have a purse hold onto it tightly, watch out for mopeds. People committing a crime like to drive by and grab a purse. That's another thing the German guide warned the women about in the group. Very true, my friend got all her lire stolen right out of her purse while we were on the bus back from the Vatican. It was so crowded on there we didn't even notice, and the crowded buses made it easy for guys to rub up against us too.  I got harrassed more by the Roman men the one weekend I was in Rome than by French men the entire four months I lived in the south of France. | |
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Serious said: luv4u said: It's not an insult. The German tour guide explained to my tour group what they are and what they do and used the word Gypsies. Gypsies refer to themselves as Roma The tour guide mentioned they make a living preying on tourists, etc. They are a wandering ethnic group who have no home. They live all over Europe. Nothing to do with the word being jipped nor was I being slanderous. Just passed on a warning to Nat. A group tried to approach me, and when I looked at them through my sun glasses to let them know I was aware of them, they backed off. There are all kinds of criminals anywhere. Nat, one more thing..... if you have a purse hold onto it tightly, watch out for mopeds. People committing a crime like to drive by and grab a purse. That's another thing the German guide warned the women about in the group. Before you assume anything, best thing to do is ask instead of trying to make it into something it's not. Well as you mention that your tour guide was German he could have mentioned that the term "Zigeuner" (German translation of gypsy) is a derogative term for Roma, Sinti etc.. Just saying . Maybe the English term gypsy is not, don't know, but the German term is.Okay wikipedia says that the english term gypsy is offensive as well (just like I thought). http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gypsy With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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DevotedPuppy said: luv4u said: Nat, one more thing..... if you have a purse hold onto it tightly, watch out for mopeds. People committing a crime like to drive by and grab a purse. That's another thing the German guide warned the women about in the group. Very true, my friend got all her lire stolen right out of her purse while we were on the bus back from the Vatican. It was so crowded on there we didn't even notice, and the crowded buses made it easy for guys to rub up against us too. I got harrassed more by the Roman men the one weekend I was in Rome than by French men the entire four months I lived in the south of France.its true
the french men are very subtle and sweet when aproaching women italian men...well let's just say i was told how much they love black women while circling his crotch with his hands... 
i loved europe, nat you'll have a lovely time over in rome! and please...PLEASE eat some gellato if u haven't already!  do it for sammi! | |
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Serious said: Serious said: Well as you mention that your tour guide was German he could have mentioned that the term "Zigeuner" (German translation of gypsy) is a derogative term for Roma, Sinti etc.. Just saying . Maybe the English term gypsy is not, don't know, but the German term is.Okay wikipedia says that the english term gypsy is offensive as well (just like I thought). http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gypsy
i seriously should not have brought it up in the first place tho, i've had this happen to me before... next time i'll stay  | |
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SammiJ said: Serious said: Okay wikipedia says that the english term gypsy is offensive as well (just like I thought). http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gypsy
i seriously should not have brought it up in the first place tho, i've had this happen to me before... next time i'll stay I think it's a good thing to bring it up  . Would you have brought it up if it would have been the term negro? I don't know if it was meant in an offensive way by te one who posted it (I doubt it), but I think it is a damn shame that that tour guide used it  .With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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Serious said: SammiJ said:
i seriously should not have brought it up in the first place tho, i've had this happen to me before... next time i'll stay I think it's a good thing to bring it up . Would you have brought it up if it would have been the term negro? I don't know if it was meant in an offensive way by te one who posted it (I doubt it), but I think it is a damn shame that that tour guide used it .it's true, and you're right, i would've brought up had the term negro was the term in question
i just didn't think it would throw the thread so violently off its' course!  | |
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SammiJ said: Serious said: I think it's a good thing to bring it up . Would you have brought it up if it would have been the term negro? I don't know if it was meant in an offensive way by te one who posted it (I doubt it), but I think it is a damn shame that that tour guide used it .it's true, and you're right, i would've brought up had the term negro was the term in question
i just didn't think it would throw the thread so violently off its' course! Yeah, that's sad, but it is for a worthy cause .With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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Natisse said: Anyone got any tips, advice or suggestions about what to see and do with nights/3 days in Rome?
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luv4u said: SammiJ said: i take it as such... i unno
i'm not sure if it is, but *tidbit alert* if you've ever said "i've been jipped/gypped" it's taken from that certain situation bev brought up so i've always kinda stayed away from that term It's not an insult. The German tour guide explained to my tour group what they are and what they do and used the word Gypsies. Gypsies refer to themselves as Roma The tour guide mentioned they make a living preying on tourists, etc. They are a wandering ethnic group who have no home. They live all over Europe. Nothing to do with the word being jipped nor was I being slanderous. Just passed on a warning to Nat. A group tried to approach me, and when I looked at them through my sun glasses to let them know I was aware of them, they backed off. There are all kinds of criminals anywhere. Nat, one more thing..... if you have a purse hold onto it tightly, watch out for mopeds. People committing a crime like to drive by and grab a purse. That's another thing the German guide warned the women about in the group. Before you assume anything, best thing to do is ask instead of trying to make it into something it's not. http://www.geocities.com/...5121/vlib/ The very link you provided contains this: "The trend is to eliminate the use of derogatory, pejorative and offensive names, such as Gypsies, and to be given proper respect by the use of the self-appelation of Roma, or Rroma. Gypsies, although offensive to most Roma, is still a proper name, and as such, must always be capitalized." So, while I undestand you meant no offense, and when I've seen it used I don't think offense was the intent, we are learning here today that IS indeed considered an offensive term. |
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thanks again guys this has all been very helpful... I will have my Brother with me and he's a big guy so I doubt much harrassing or anything will happen I've seen French men in action in Paris but have yet to see many Italian men what they're like. as far as pickpockets go I'm ALWAYS very very careful it just comes naturally now I guess lol
Mach I wish you could come with me  and Sag thank you hon can't wait to meet both of you in April  
thanks again guys and thanks luv for the link you orgnoted me Sammi please don't worry sweetie they're ALL valid points and very helpful believe me | |
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Natisse said: thanks again guys
this has all been very helpful... I will have my Brother with me and he's a big guy so I doubt much harrassing or anything will happen I've seen French men in action in Paris but have yet to see many Italian men what they're like. as far as pickpockets go I'm ALWAYS very very careful it just comes naturally now I guess lol
Mach I wish you could come with me and Sag thank you hon can't wait to meet both of you in April
thanks again guys and thanks luv for the link you orgnoted me Sammi please don't worry sweetie they're ALL valid points and very helpful believe me and dont ever ask the org for traveling advice again honey.
and italian men prolly want teh sex right away so watch out for that too! | |
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Christopher said: Natisse said: thanks again guys
this has all been very helpful... I will have my Brother with me and he's a big guy so I doubt much harrassing or anything will happen I've seen French men in action in Paris but have yet to see many Italian men what they're like. as far as pickpockets go I'm ALWAYS very very careful it just comes naturally now I guess lol
Mach I wish you could come with me and Sag thank you hon can't wait to meet both of you in April
thanks again guys and thanks luv for the link you orgnoted me Sammi please don't worry sweetie they're ALL valid points and very helpful believe me and dont ever ask the org for traveling advice again honey.
and italian men prolly want teh sex right away so watch out for that too! don't ask again, huh? ...probably won't be able to stick to that but I'll try and I kinda have an idea of what to expect from Italian men, but like I said I'll have my Bro with me so he keeps an eye on me | |
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Natisse said: Christopher said: and dont ever ask the org for traveling advice again honey.
and italian men prolly want teh sex right away so watch out for that too! don't ask again, huh? ...probably won't be able to stick to that but I'll try and I kinda have an idea of what to expect from Italian men, but like I said I'll have my Bro with me so he keeps an eye on me lol i was j/.k but ya know and yeah fight them off with a stick!  | |
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Christopher said: Natisse said: don't ask again, huh? ...probably won't be able to stick to that but I'll try and I kinda have an idea of what to expect from Italian men, but like I said I'll have my Bro with me so he keeps an eye on me lol i was j/.k but ya know and yeah fight them off with a stick! I know it was hon
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