In recent years it seems more horrible acts are happening around the world.Child abduction,Murder,Business corruption.and War seem to be on the increase..I think it may be due to overpopulation.What do you think the cause is???

theC said:

Could be more media outlets and we're just hearing about it more.

Shouldn't you be partaking in the evil of Vegas? Gambling? Getting legalized prostitutes and the like?

BattierBeMyDaddy said:

He left, it was too crowded!

BattierBeMyDaddy said:

theC
That ain't that evil .Anyways i'm back i only stayed three days.I had a ton of fun.I hadn't had that much fun in years.

theC said:

You mean you lost all your money.

Zum said:

theC
Naw i Came back with most of my cash.I just booked three days as a getaway.I actually didn't gamble much this time.There were alot of other things to do

theC said:

You were gone three days? It seems like you just left yesterday!

I mean uhh, I missed you so much it seemed like an eternity!

Glad you had fun though. Hope you didn't partake of the prostitution. That's just filthy, even if the government does run it and so on. But gambling...I'll be going to Vegas one day for that.

I think it's the roots that are starting to get rotten.

The bible prophesied that things would get like this
...and worse.
But we should take heart...there is a solution.

SensualMelody said:

Yes there is... KEEP POSTING ON PRINCE.ORG!

i think it's because we're on the wrong path.

instead of guarding the earth and loving her denizens we're grinding the garden of eden up and making it into fast food . . .

oversimplified for purposes of brevity

man has developed tremendously in the last 35 years...
the more we realize we can do, the more we attempt to do.
the more inteligent we become, the more we search for what
evil truely is... i'm not articulate, so i may not be
understood.
maybe the search for what evil is, is an attempt to avoid it, or even, do battle with it, however, in seeking it out
you expose it to the unsuspecting.
studies are done to make us AWARE.
being AWARE makes us MORE DANGEROUS.
there is ENLIGHTENMENT, and there is KNOWLAGE...
Enlightenment is the SOLUTION to the ills of KNOWLAGE

LaVey said the reason of all this evil: "Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who becuz of his 'divine spiritual and intellectual developement', has become the most vicious animal of all!"

Life is a continuous fighting and ppl dont wanna understand that it would b a lil more of tolerance and respect 2 agree all.

Fear, egoisme, vanity, lies, ownership, envie, jelousie, poverty, confusion, too much of util inutility...

SensualMelody said:

'The Devil got u thinking he's invisible, but how he make you act is real!' -Prince:'Cybersingle'.

The world's just as violent as it was in the time of Jesus, or whoever.

It's just more publicized, as Zum said.

But I do sense something bad in the air. My history professor happened 2 say something like "When we invade Iraq in 3 months..." WHEN? Not IF? He was so sure of it that it kind of put an end 2 the speculation, 4 me anyway. Either way, I don't have a good feeling about that, altho' Iraq does need 2 b dealt with, IMO.

BattierBeMyDaddy said:

Uh...wtf

(Snip - flamebait insult removed - Ian)


Yeah, that's it.

Nep2nes said:

And I love you too, Nep2nes, you outstanding little person.

Anyhow, I suppose you're telling me the idea of getting a prostitute appeals to you? You think the government of Nevada running prostitution is good? Perhaps you'd like to partake of a Vegas street corner ho? I don't care if they're clean or not. In my opinion, any woman who whores herself out is sick, and so are the men who go about paying them.

Nep2nes said:

Yes,yes,yes.
again you have found me out and decide to put me on
Front Street...
but just remember BAD is not EVIL!!!

BattierBeMyDaddy said:

Well I'm glad you added "in my opinion" or you could end up annoying lots of people by being so judgemental Well although I don't have a very concrete or well formulated opinion on the subject of prostitution, and I don't think I'd ever use the services of a prostitute myself... I wouldn't be so quick to judge. As a business transaction, if someone wants to pay for sexual services, and someone wants to be paid for providing sexual services - it seems like straight-forward market-driven economy right there

The problems arise with things like pimps, drugs, STDs, and women from poorer nations being imported as slaves into prostitution in the west. Perhaps having government legislation to clean all that nastiness up isn't so crazy after all...

Also where do you draw the line - does it have to be penetrative sex? What about the professional dominatrix - a woman who provides a "sexual service" without actually having sex?

Well my attitudes are pretty liberal it seems - I surprise myself at times!

Sign O' the times.

ian said:

I annoy plenty of people without being judgemental, dear.


I just think it's a sick thing to do, not only for people buying the sex, but for the prostitute as well. These women can surely find other jobs than selling their bodies. I'm not complaining about sex out of marriage, anything like that. I just think prostitution is sick.

Not to mention, how would you like to know you were a man/woman who has to PAY to get some? I'm sure that's a nice feeling. You know, "I'm a skanky loser, so I'll have to pay a couple hundred to get some nasty, two-bit whore to play with my dick." That's real nice, right!


The only state in America prostitution is legal in, I believe, is Nevada. It was such a problem, the government legalized it and took it over. Prostitutes are allowed, but there's all sorts of medical testing for STDs and the like.



Don't they have a sort of quarter booth for that sort of thing? You pop a quarter in, a curtain opens? Or is that only in the movies...

theC said:

IN MY OPINION, I think that yeah, it's being reported more.

Many, many things are at work here as to why things seem so evil.

But if you look at History of just ten or 15 years ago, it's still pretty much the same.

So then we see MASS MEDIA, which really is CORPORATE MEDIA, it's really the same thing. They've taken bad news and made essential news reporting to a mass media who lives in fear and needs to know perhaps that there is so much sadness and tragedy in other lives to make their McDonalds, Ikea, WalMart, BestBuying lives more meaningful. Like a bad addiction.

I went to sleep sniffing (cold) and watching The Source, hip hop news like show. And they had a section on Hip Hip in the Caribbean Islands, you know, Jamaica, etc. And they showed videos being made in those countries. They showed the top five or so. Well, they all had that stupid, slow motion, cruising the club, beautiful women type video, but one struck me as astonishing.

One of the videos was of this Jamaican rapper, dressed pretty much like a South Central Hood gang banger. And I thought. Okay, let's be frank here, is this what multi-national corporations push other countries now. The massively accepted "Hip Hop" image. Which in this case really was just a punk pointing at me...then cut to the "sponsored by"...the truth is in the details.

It's subversive because people aren't in general, media literate. Especially in those poor nations. The American dream has been reduced to a Hip Hop dream of Dubs, Cadillac SUV's, women at parties...sport clothing.

So then answer this, how can it be that "multi-national" companies be good to poorer countries. What do they bring to those people. Compassion, happiness? No.

The worlds compassion is ceasing to exist.

Live simply, so others may simply live.



~*~
[This message was edited Mon Sep 2 0:03:55 PDT 2002 by FlyingCloudPassenger]

FlyingCloudPassenger said:

I highly recommend you reading "Propaganda, Inc.
Selling America's Culture to the World" by Nancy Snow

http://www.sevenstories.c...2100461500

Mankind is the source of evil, he just blames God

BattierBeMyDaddy said:

But maybe they LIKE their job. Prostitution pays good money, which is a huge incentive. If they only have to work one day a week or whatever to make a living, then all the more power to them. If you don't have a college education then it may be difficult to live off of a burger flipping job, ya know?

This is not the sole reason that people solicit others for sex.

Just out of curiosity - ever heard of the Bunny Ranch?

ian said:

Ditto. I'm interested in hearing your take on strippers and porn stars as well, Battier. All in good fun, of course...

Natsume said:

I'm sorry, I still don't see any sense in it. Think about it. How would you like to know, the only reason you're getting money is because you're sucking dick for money, or fucking some fat, greasy loser for money? I'm sure the money IS good, but I'd like to think I was worth more than a fuck and a couple hundred bucks.



Some people truly enjoy sex, yes. Perhaps a man goes out and gets himself a prostitute because he doesn't want any emotional attachment, just the fun of some sex, right?

If sex is all you want, I suppose it does make sense. No reason to actually bother going on a date, since it's not a sure thing, but you'd end up spending money anyhow, ay.



No.



Give me a bit.

Flyingcloudpassenger, you've touched on many underlying issues that I can see in a similar way as well. But in reference to your comment about third world countries and hip-hop, the people who live in these third world countries, and in places like Jamaica, are actually not so influenced by these rap images and see them as a big joke. They're lifestyle is so different from how it is portrayed through the lyrics and video in the hip-hop videos that makes them out to be a big joke. They know these kids are not serious and are into more conscious minded music and lyrics, and are not into being these 'pop' wannabes, which is how these artists and the fans that are taken by it come across as. I also happen to think that since they are not in our shoes, having it brushed in our faces all of the time, they're more aware of what it's about then those who are not always exposed to it simply because they 'live it'.

From what I've perceived, most of the street kids from around my area many do not even live the way these rappers claim to be, and so they only 'take on the image' thinking that they are living 'the life' when they don't even realize how good they actually have it. Most of them are young kids, and if they do make it to college, and open they're eyes and see what the real world is about, things change for them as they try and rise above it all.

But to those who don't, as hip-hop continues to be accepted on a larger scale, they think it's okay to be doing what they are doing (those who are influenced) and continue to live their lives that end up in corruption. To me, in this way, hip-hop has served its purpose as being a 'popular form of art'.

I say this because the relationship between hip-hop and the media is like, we live it, and Hollywood and the media glamorize it. They’ve come so far from reality, that they even have the artists pretending to act like they are hanging with hoochie mamas, driving expensive cars, and just ‘livin’ it up’ with crazy dollars, while most of them sit home with their wives, live in pretty houses somewhere far from where they claim to be representing, and yet still the industry practically forces them to continue to rap about it.

Then when the crime rate goes up, drugs become more infested in neighborhoods, and more youngsters try to keep up with the supposed lavish lifestyle of rappers by trying to do anything to get a platinum chain to hang around their neck, as other negativity continues to subside that reflects rap music in some sort of way or another, they point the finger back at the rap artists and the hip-hop image claiming that ‘they are the bad influence', and 'that it's their fault', when they really should be pointing the the finger at themselves since they are the are the ones in control of promoting whatever artist they choose, the rap image, and anything to do with hip-hop, and popular culture that will sell. To me, that's where the real problem lies. So if we want to educate our children on being media literate, and make changes on improving the quality of our life, I think we need and should take it from there first.

Secondly, the American media doesn't give two craps about third world countries, inner-city communities--'the ghetto'. As long as they are benefiting the elites, and are not harming them in any way, everyone else could go kill and shoot each other for all they care. They don't care about Hollywood stars, they don't care about rappers, and they don't care about pop singers. As long as they keep the MAJORITY of people entertained in some way, keeping them far from the reality and the truth, as most of them continue to be as brainwashed as they already are, then IT'S ALL GOOD.

O.K, this is not the cause of all evil, but it's just one of MANY evils. That's how I see it.
[This message was edited Sun Sep 1 22:27:26 PDT 2002 by Starmist7]

Starmist7 said:

Thanks for correcting me Starmist7. I'm very glad in fact that I am wrong. There must have been a glitch in MY Matrix when I failed to really see the media before me with The Source TV show. TV can confuse people very easily, I was.

I think you actually clarified my messy post too!

And yeah, we have to hold those companies responsible for what they push and who they let rise to the top. I wonder, I really do, if it's planned...all this crap...on purpose. They know the souls are weak in those hoods.

It will happen eventually. People ARE waking up. Bit by bit. That Spooky Electric feeling is creeping up on them, and I mean at all levels, rich, poor, working class, young and old.