I'm pretty sure that if you feel you need to drink every day, that means you're a social alcoholic. That's not necessarily a bad thing or disruptive to a person's life. But it's good to know what's going on because it's easy to slide from that to being an out of control alcoholic. "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"-Dr Seuss
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When it interferes with your life in any negative way, it's a problem.
I pretty much gave up drinking when I had Miles. | |
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StepfordWive said: DarkKnight1 said: Shots every night? Or a beer or 2 every night? Both, one or the other, or any kind of alcohol. I'm just stating, that because you like to drink in excess, because you happen to be blessed with high tolerance to alcohol, doesn't make you an alcoholic, rite? rite. i don't drink like that anymore, but there was a time and I was not an alcoholic. sure, it wasn't healthy but I wasn't needing betty ford or anything. those denver kids are pricks. a psychotic is someone who just figured out what's going on | |
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jerseykrs said: StepfordWive said: Well, not EVERY nite, but like 4 nites a week, everyone does this at some poinmt in life. yes, they do, but that doesn't erase the fact that it's a problem. Maybe not "alcoholic" problem, but it isn't good. Agree with jerseykrs on both of his responses. "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive."
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JustErin said: When it interferes with your life in any negative way, it's a problem.
I pretty much gave up drinking when I had Miles. But do you give him Kaluah when his ear hurts? | |
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Stax said: StepfordWive said: Both, one or the other, or any kind of alcohol. I'm just stating, that because you like to drink in excess, because you happen to be blessed with high tolerance to alcohol, doesn't make you an alcoholic, rite? rite. i don't drink like that anymore, but there was a time and I was not an alcoholic. sure, it wasn't healthy but I wasn't needing betty ford or anything. those denver kids are pricks. I'll say. The only one I can stand is the drunk chic and the white dude that screwed her that time. He's a hottie. The rest of them are nuttso. | |
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StepfordWive said: JustErin said: When it interferes with your life in any negative way, it's a problem.
I pretty much gave up drinking when I had Miles. But do you give him Kaluah when his ear hurts? | |
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retina said: Stymie said: We've all been young but I've never drunk that much. Even now, I drink once a month, tops.
I'm sure you have other qualities to compensate for that. | |
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omg, a professional once told me that if you drink (need) two beers
every night you are an alcoholic according to the textbook rules on that sort of stuf not that i drink that much. in fact, i drink like two or three times a month now. and if i do it's only on the weekend or just cause i'm feeling like a sexy bitch and want to pass out in my own sick right in the middle of my living room and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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What about the Pottsville Gold
you kids in the boonies talk in different languages ... pottsville gold ??? what the ____ .. is that ??? after i sit here in utter amazement .... and think about it ... i guess u are referring to Yuengling brands of beer ??? i actually like yuengling ... | |
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IstenSzek said: omg, a professional once told me that if you drink (need) two beers
every night you are an alcoholic according to the textbook rules on that sort of stuf not that i drink that much. in fact, i drink like two or three times a month now. and if i do it's only on the weekend or just cause i'm feeling like a sexy bitch and want to pass out in my own sick right in the middle of my living room You also have a problem when you only drink occassionaly but when you do, you totally go overboard....like really overboard. That's my problem with alcohol. | |
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IrresistibleB1tch said: i think i'll make it my new year's resolution to drink 10 nights a week.
Some people are like Slinkies...
They're good for nothing but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs. | |
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StepfordWive said: gemini13 said: Actually, it does. I know from experience. Thats what my hubby's AA people are telling him. They are also telling him to stay away form me, cuz I'm a bad influence. THAT is odd, dontcha think? Well, if he has a problem with alcohol, and you continue to drink in front of him, then technically, you are a bad influence. Been there, done that. Judging from what happened, what was it, a month and a half or so ago, it sounds like his problems may stem from alcohol. | |
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From the Merck Manual:
http://www.merck.com/mmhe...h108b.html Nearly 8% of adults in the United States have some problem with alcohol use. Alcoholism is the most extreme alcohol use disorder. It is characterized by excessive drinking, unsuccessful attempts at stopping drinking, and continued drinking despite adverse social and occupational consequences. Men are 4 times more likely than women to become alcoholics. Of the people who drink alcohol, about 10% become alcoholics. People who become alcoholics have been regularly using alcohol in excessive amounts over a prolonged period of time and are dependent on alcohol. The amount of drinking that takes place on an average day before a person becomes an alcoholic varies widely, but it may be as little as two drinks per day for women and three drinks for men (one drink is equivalent to 12 ounces of beer, 5 ounces of wine, or 1½ ounces of liquor, such as whiskey). Many alcoholics are also binge drinkers, meaning that they may drink five or more drinks on many days and little or none on a few days. If you feel like you NEED it, you have a problem. I'm not preaching here, I drink too. You just need to be aware of what you're doing to yourself and control your intake before it controls you. "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"-Dr Seuss
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SnidelyWhiplash said: What about the Pottsville Gold
you kids in the boonies talk in different languages ... pottsville gold ??? what the ____ .. is that ??? after i sit here in utter amazement .... and think about it ... i guess u are referring to Yuengling brands of beer ??? i actually like yuengling ... You mean you guys don't call it that????? I'm SHOCKED! | |
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no. us NORMAL folks in the city ... do not refer to it as THAT ... | |
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gemini13 said: StepfordWive said: Thats what my hubby's AA people are telling him. They are also telling him to stay away form me, cuz I'm a bad influence. THAT is odd, dontcha think? Well, if he has a problem with alcohol, and you continue to drink in front of him, then technically, you are a bad influence. Been there, done that. Judging from what happened, what was it, a month and a half or so ago, it sounds like his problems may stem from alcohol. Yeah listen to this, and tell me what you think. I'm a tad offended by his 'counselors' but maybe I shouldn't be. Maybe a third party can say. Okay, so we don't have alcohol in the house anymore, we sold our beer meister and he sold his bar outta the basement. He hasn't touched a beer in over a month, and he asked that I don't bring beer in the house either. I said, thats fine. I think it's better that way. So we go to a friends house one nite and they say do you's want a soda? I say no thanks, knowing damn well theres gonna be a case of Miller Lite in their fridge, but they were afraid to offer cuzza the circumstances. So I say, to my husband, do you care if I have a beer, and he says No, so they get me one. No biggie. Then at his meeting his counselor says were you around alcohol this wekend and he tells her the story. SHE says, why couldn't your wife just have a soda? He says cuz she can just have a soda at home, and she craves beer (I do) so she had one there. The counselor says, didn't she feel stupid drinking a beer when no one else was. He's like No. She's like, it sounds like your WIFE has a problem. WTF???? | |
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StepfordWive said: gemini13 said: Well, if he has a problem with alcohol, and you continue to drink in front of him, then technically, you are a bad influence. Been there, done that. Judging from what happened, what was it, a month and a half or so ago, it sounds like his problems may stem from alcohol. Yeah listen to this, and tell me what you think. I'm a tad offended by his 'counselors' but maybe I shouldn't be. Maybe a third party can say. Okay, so we don't have alcohol in the house anymore, we sold our beer meister and he sold his bar outta the basement. He hasn't touched a beer in over a month, and he asked that I don't bring beer in the house either. I said, thats fine. I think it's better that way. So we go to a friends house one nite and they say do you's want a soda? I say no thanks, knowing damn well theres gonna be a case of Miller Lite in their fridge, but they were afraid to offer cuzza the circumstances. So I say, to my husband, do you care if I have a beer, and he says No, so they get me one. No biggie. Then at his meeting his counselor says were you around alcohol this wekend and he tells her the story. SHE says, why couldn't your wife just have a soda? He says cuz she can just have a soda at home, and she craves beer (I do) so she had one there. The counselor says, didn't she feel stupid drinking a beer when no one else was. He's like No. She's like, it sounds like your WIFE has a problem. WTF???? Welllll.....you've gotta see it from the counselor's perspective. She is trying to help your husband with his addiction, and even though he said he didn't care that you had that beer, he obviously did. If you want to work it out with him (and you already know my feelings about that), then you are going to have to support him in his abstinence. All it takes is one drink when you have a problem with alcohol, although I have heard that moderation is more effective than total abstinence. (I'm not a doctor though) | |
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I used to drink throughout the week, martinis and such in the evenings, but that crap really runs you into the ground over time. I wouldn't really have a hangover the next day, but I felt really lethargic and unproductive. I was just spinning my wheels at work and home and getting nothing done. Any time I would try to stop or take a break from it all, I wouldn't be able to sleep at night. | |
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i've gone through that phase in university where we went out three times a week
i usually drove so i wasn't getting wasted but there was certainly a lot of alcohol around. and on occasion i drank to excess. now i have a drink very infrequently. it was summer when i last had a beer. i have all sorts of alcohol in the house but i am not one to crack open a beer and drink it by myself too often. i am guessing there are some other issues involved in your whole dynamic. explore your reasons for wanting a drink. maybe it's about feeling a lack of control or say in the matter or that he doesn't deserve you to give it up for him. on a side note, a friend of my father's was an alcoholic but never drank during his second marriage. everyone around him supported his efforts to stay sober by never having alcohol in his presence. his wife died and he remarried a social drinker so he attempted having wine with supper. he is now dead as a result of cirrhosis of the liver. | |
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Ex-Moderator | JustErin said: When it interferes with your life in any negative way, it's a problem.
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emm said: i've gone through that phase in university where we went out three times a week
i usually drove so i wasn't getting wasted but there was certainly a lot of alcohol around. and on occasion i drank to excess. now i have a drink very infrequently. it was summer when i last had a beer. i have all sorts of alcohol in the house but i am not one to crack open a beer and drink it by myself too often. i am guessing there are some other issues involved in your whole dynamic. explore your reasons for wanting a drink. maybe it's about feeling a lack of control or say in the matter or that he doesn't deserve you to give it up for him. on a side note, a friend of my father's was an alcoholic but never drank during his second marriage. everyone around him supported his efforts to stay sober by never having alcohol in his presence. his wife died and he remarried a social drinker so he attempted having wine with supper. he is now dead as a result of cirrhosis of the liver. I have to admit, I do feel like, why do I have to stop doing something I like because YOU can't handle yourself. But I know I'm wrong to think that way. | |
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StepfordWive said: emm said: i've gone through that phase in university where we went out three times a week
i usually drove so i wasn't getting wasted but there was certainly a lot of alcohol around. and on occasion i drank to excess. now i have a drink very infrequently. it was summer when i last had a beer. i have all sorts of alcohol in the house but i am not one to crack open a beer and drink it by myself too often. i am guessing there are some other issues involved in your whole dynamic. explore your reasons for wanting a drink. maybe it's about feeling a lack of control or say in the matter or that he doesn't deserve you to give it up for him. on a side note, a friend of my father's was an alcoholic but never drank during his second marriage. everyone around him supported his efforts to stay sober by never having alcohol in his presence. his wife died and he remarried a social drinker so he attempted having wine with supper. he is now dead as a result of cirrhosis of the liver. I have to admit, I do feel like, why do I have to stop doing something I like because YOU can't handle yourself. But I know I'm wrong to think that way. You don't have to stop drinking all the time, just drink when he's not there, like for a girl's night out or something. I wouldn't have any in the house though, that's asking for trouble. "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"-Dr Seuss
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shellyevon said: StepfordWive said: I have to admit, I do feel like, why do I have to stop doing something I like because YOU can't handle yourself. But I know I'm wrong to think that way. You don't have to stop drinking all the time, just drink when he's not there, like for a girl's night out or something. I wouldn't have any in the house though, that's asking for trouble. I know. I totally just have to do it with friends only know cuz last weekend we went out. Okay, well before I tell ya that I have to explain. When I used to get a buzz I mean like a month or so ago, and it was every nite after the kids went to bed, I'd get drunk, but not a drunk, like funny drunk, just quick get drunk, get depressed, and go to bed. So I stopped that, and then got drunk for the first time in a month or so this weekend, my husband didn't drink. The drunk was a different kind though, it was like an eventful drunk where I was acting like an idiot. So anyways. The next morning he was like, I can't be around drunk people. I'm like, don't give me that shit. (I don't remember much of anything from that nite) But he said, I was stupid and obnoxious and he can't deal with it) He said I went up to some hispanic girl and said I wish I was Mexican so I can have an ass like that. Anyways, where was I goingf with this? Oh yeah, can't drink around him, cause he gets pissy about it. | |
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StepfordWive said: shellyevon said: You don't have to stop drinking all the time, just drink when he's not there, like for a girl's night out or something. I wouldn't have any in the house though, that's asking for trouble. I know. I totally just have to do it with friends only know cuz last weekend we went out. Okay, well before I tell ya that I have to explain. When I used to get a buzz I mean like a month or so ago, and it was every nite after the kids went to bed, I'd get drunk, but not a drunk, like funny drunk, just quick get drunk, get depressed, and go to bed. So I stopped that, and then got drunk for the first time in a month or so this weekend, my husband didn't drink. The drunk was a different kind though, it was like an eventful drunk where I was acting like an idiot. So anyways. The next morning he was like, I can't be around drunk people. I'm like, don't give me that shit. (I don't remember much of anything from that nite) But he said, I was stupid and obnoxious and he can't deal with it) He said I went up to some hispanic girl and said I wish I was Mexican so I can have an ass like that. Anyways, where was I goingf with this? Oh yeah, can't drink around him, cause he gets pissy about it. | |
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Stymie said: StepfordWive said: I know. I totally just have to do it with friends only know cuz last weekend we went out. Okay, well before I tell ya that I have to explain. When I used to get a buzz I mean like a month or so ago, and it was every nite after the kids went to bed, I'd get drunk, but not a drunk, like funny drunk, just quick get drunk, get depressed, and go to bed. So I stopped that, and then got drunk for the first time in a month or so this weekend, my husband didn't drink. The drunk was a different kind though, it was like an eventful drunk where I was acting like an idiot. So anyways. The next morning he was like, I can't be around drunk people. I'm like, don't give me that shit. (I don't remember much of anything from that nite) But he said, I was stupid and obnoxious and he can't deal with it) He said I went up to some hispanic girl and said I wish I was Mexican so I can have an ass like that. Anyways, where was I goingf with this? Oh yeah, can't drink around him, cause he gets pissy about it. Not for real, like bein' a bitch for real. I guess that was harsh. Heres what I mean. I spent 5 years driving his drunk ass home. Getting kicked out of bars because of his loud mouth, cleaning puke out of my car, etc, for him. I kinda feel like, he shouldn't have been so quick to make me feel stupid about it the ONE time he had to take care of me. I also agree NOW after the fact that I can't drink around him. So I guess we were both wrong? (Give your honest opinions for real, I'm not gonna get all defensive) | |
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StepfordWive said: Stymie said: Are you for real? Or are you just playing?
Not for real, like bein' a bitch for real. I guess that was harsh. Heres what I mean. I spent 5 years driving his drunk ass home. Getting kicked out of bars because of his loud mouth, cleaning puke out of my car, etc, for him. I kinda feel like, he shouldn't have been so quick to make me feel stupid about it the ONE time he had to take care of me. I also agree NOW after the fact that I can't drink around him. So I guess we were both wrong? (Give your honest opinions for real, I'm not gonna get all defensive) | |
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Stymie said: StepfordWive said: Not for real, like bein' a bitch for real. I guess that was harsh. Heres what I mean. I spent 5 years driving his drunk ass home. Getting kicked out of bars because of his loud mouth, cleaning puke out of my car, etc, for him. I kinda feel like, he shouldn't have been so quick to make me feel stupid about it the ONE time he had to take care of me. I also agree NOW after the fact that I can't drink around him. So I guess we were both wrong? (Give your honest opinions for real, I'm not gonna get all defensive) Oh, well not that opinion. Thats a via org note type opinion. | |
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Stymie said: StepfordWive said: Not for real, like bein' a bitch for real. I guess that was harsh. Heres what I mean. I spent 5 years driving his drunk ass home. Getting kicked out of bars because of his loud mouth, cleaning puke out of my car, etc, for him. I kinda feel like, he shouldn't have been so quick to make me feel stupid about it the ONE time he had to take care of me. I also agree NOW after the fact that I can't drink around him. So I guess we were both wrong? (Give your honest opinions for real, I'm not gonna get all defensive) indeed. anyone else in their right mind woulda kicked the guy to the curb tout suite. | |
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StepfordWive said: Stymie said: Are you for real? Or are you just playing?
Not for real, like bein' a bitch for real. I guess that was harsh. Heres what I mean. I spent 5 years driving his drunk ass home. Getting kicked out of bars because of his loud mouth, cleaning puke out of my car, etc, for him. I kinda feel like, he shouldn't have been so quick to make me feel stupid about it the ONE time he had to take care of me. I also agree NOW after the fact that I can't drink around him. So I guess we were both wrong? Yes you were both wrong. But the basic question is do you want to stay with someone like that? (Give your honest opinions for real, I'm not gonna get all defensive) "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"-Dr Seuss
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