IrresistibleB1tch said:

I so agree with you. I do not know anything about Cesar Millan. A few weeks back I read Victoria Stilwell book It's Me or the Dog she has a program here in the UK. I thoroughly enjoyed reading the book, the book is good for new dog owners but I still felt she could have added more info.

I have went to a few dog training schools and some are totally barbaric in their methods some think by being a bully and hurting the animal is the way 2 go but in my opinion it can bring the aggressive side out in the animal this I have witnessed myself and never returned to those training schools. It took me ages in finding a good dog trainer. In my opinion the more positive reward based teaching the happier the dog.

When ur book comes out I want the first one and a signed copy

In the UK they are trying 2 ban shock collars, in wales the Environment Minister Carwyn Jones will ban them when the Animal Welfare Act comes into force in March.
Link 2 read more:http://icwales.icnetwork...._page.html
The kennel Club
http://www.thekennelclub....798/23/5/3
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computer having a hissy fit now
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katt said:

Cesar Millan calls himself "the dog whisperer" (i think another guy had that title first - i forget his name), but he's far from it. he used choke collars, invades the dogs' spaces and gives them a "tap" with his foot (close to a kick imo) when they don't submit to him.

also, he has what he calls the "dog psychology center" where he claims to have "rehabilitated" all sorts of dogs, mostly pits and other large breeds. but even with careful camera staging, it looks like little more than a fancy, fenced-in parking lot in the middle of the city.

i love the way they deal with dogs in England (best i can tell, anyway) - i love the show "Barking Mad". those guys are so creative!

katt said:

awesome!

My aunt needs to use your program She's actually in upstate SC. Her dog, Roscoe is a Shi Tzu.....about 7 years old. I can't believe she's had him for that long. Anyway he's in this habit of barking at anyone whenever the doorbell rings. I remember I had to keep him for a week while they were on vacation, and he would not stop barking at the pizza man. I was kinda embarrassed at first....and explained to him that he was my aunt's dog Other than the constant barking at visitors....he seems to be a fairly relaxed dog. I'm not sure how you would train him to distinguish the difference between an intruder (which is good that he barks at them) and familiar faces. I mean he stops barking at people like us once we enter their house and start talking to him to let him know that it's us....relax, stop barking

Number23 said:

That collar is just wrong

AnckSuNamun said:

i could go and visit her and Roscoe...

IrresistibleB1tch said:

I don't know if I would call myself that,
but I'm often saying "bitch" under my breath alot.

Thoughts on teaching good leash manners? Ie. preventing pulling?

Illustrator said:

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HereToRockYourWorld said:

leash pulling is typically not an isolated issue - but i would try this:

1. be sure you use a step-in harness, not a regular collar (risk of injury to the neck) or a long harness, where the ring for the leash is further back toward the tail, encouraging the pulling. (for pulling with aggression, i would recommend both a step-in harness and a Halti, with a double-ended leash, during training)

2. leave for the walk only when the dog has calmed down from the typical excitement about the walk. always walk in and out of the door first, before the dog.

3. when the dog starts pulling, simply stop walking. no need to yank on the leash, just continue the walk when the the dog is by your side. if he keeps pulling and going bonkers, go back home. try again later - he'll get it soon. you can also reward the dog for walking by your side by giving him treats throughout the walk. depending on the dog, that might work well, but some are so food-driven that they forget all their good manners once you're trying to wean them off the treats.

let me know if that works for you!
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just a basic question but when i get a house, my boys want a dog (we had to give our last one away ). how do i train a dog not to poop or pee all over the place when i first get it when they are little? i love dogs but i haven't been able to keep them 'cause i rent and landlords dont always accept them.
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brownsugar said:

can i ask why you had to give your last one away? was it because of the dog having accidents in the house?

a couple of things you can do - unless you are home a lot every day, i would recommend an older, house-broken dog from a shelter or rescue. puppies are cute, but they need A LOT of attention and training.

a puppy would have to be taken out about every couple of hours, including at night (every 3 hours may work at night time), including about 30 - 45 minutes after feeding (puppies are usually fed 4 times a day). do not take a puppy for walks until the first set of shots have been given, so until then, just take the puppy outside in the yard or a common area. praise him for going potty outside.

if you do encounter accidents inside, don't try to punish the puppy - he won't understand what you're talking about. continue to take him outside as needed, and praise him for doing the right thing.

most dogs, once housebroken, should not eliminate in the house, unless they are physically sick or otherwise anxious. my program can help avoid that anxiety, so if you're interested, let me know a few weeks before you get your dog, and i'll go over the program with you.
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IrresistibleB1tch said:

IrresistibleB1tch said:

it didn't bother me that she pooped sometimes and i never punished her-just cleaned it up, i've potty-trained three boys , but i had to give her away because the landlord told me i had to have a $600 deposit to keep her and at the time i didn't have that kind of money (my lights and gas were about to be shut off). i was really upset because i fell for her big time.

brownsugar said:

well, then this should be a breeze!

IrresistibleB1tch said:

oh and thanks for the advice

brownsugar said:

you're welcome - hope it helps!

don't need help, sally is pretty much an angel, but just wanted to say this thread rocks!

cborgman said:

thanks, sweetie! give Sally a kiss on the muzzle from Aunt Martina!

IrresistibleB1tch said:

i will!

she is all kinds of excited right now, because her presents are wrapped and under the tree. she goes up to her presents, sniffs em, nudges em with her nose, looks at us, wags, sometimes whimpers.

we let her open one and she already tore it up.

cborgman said:

yeah, we learned that lesson the hard way, too!