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IrresistibleB1
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Free Dog Training

i've developed a dog training program, and am working on a book. the program is entirely non-violent of course, and uses the natural bond between humans and canines to address common challenges dog owners face.

i could use a few more case studies for my book. so if Fifi has you flustered, or Petey attacks the paperboy, and you're interested in trying my program, send me an orgnote with some details about your particular situation. i can teach you the program by e-mail. all i ask in return is a report back from you on how your dog has responded to the program. i'll incorporate some case studies in my book, so if it is published pray , you may be included.
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Reply #1 posted 12/18/06 2:10pm

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Uzie eats poop. headlp
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Reply #2 posted 12/18/06 2:12pm

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my dog pisses on my plant when he thinks Im not around.
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Reply #3 posted 12/18/06 2:16pm

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My best friend's sister's Jack Russell won't stop barking. I recently discovered that due to neighbor complaints, she has purchased an electronic shock barking collar. He now barks and cries. I've pleaded with her on the phone. No success. It's a monstrous invention and I can't go over there anymore.

If there's anything you know at all that could assist in my pledge to save the pup, he and I will mail you a very large (and very cushioned) bottle of Grey Goose. Serious. sad
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Reply #4 posted 12/18/06 2:16pm

IrresistibleB1
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Teacher said:

Uzie eats poop. headlp


that one is easy (plus, i'm sure s/he is very well trained, knowing your passion for dogs! hug )

have you tried adding a little bit of zucchini or pineapple to his/her diet? both should do the trick if Uzie is eating his/her own poop - both make the poop less palatable (go figure! lol ). also, a dog can't eat what's not there - so it can't hurt to always pick up after the dog in your own yard.

now, if Uzie is eating other dogs' (or cats') poop, this is obviously not going to work. keep an eye on Uzie during your walks and as soon as s/he starts showing interest in a nice, gently cured pile ill , call Uzie to you offer a food reward. i just hope that the dog treats taste better than pooptoast lol

good luck - let me know if any of this works!
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Reply #5 posted 12/18/06 2:17pm

IrresistibleB1
tch

groundchuck said:

my dog pisses on my plant when he thinks Im not around.


orgnote me if you want to participate in the program. sounds like something that needs a more detailed approach.
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Reply #6 posted 12/18/06 2:18pm

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INSATIABLE said:

My best friend's sister's Jack Russell won't stop barking. I recently discovered that due to neighbor complaints, she has purchased an electronic shock barking collar. He now barks and cries. I've pleaded with her on the phone. No success. It's a monstrous invention and I can't go over there anymore.

If there's anything you know at all that could assist in my pledge to save the pup, he and I will mail you a very large (and very cushioned) bottle of Grey Goose. Serious. sad
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omg, i hate barking collars. disbelief

if you can convince her to get in touch with me and try my program, just getting rid of the bark collar will be reward enough! nod

(did i just turn down a perfectly good bottle of GG?! doh! )
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Reply #7 posted 12/18/06 2:20pm

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Oh, and you don't have to put us in the book--just a word of advice would be appreciated, if anything. We've had at least one discussion on the difficulties of Jack Russells. lol / sad Sadly, I'd be amazed if there were anything to keep him hushed.
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Reply #8 posted 12/18/06 2:21pm

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IrresistibleB1tch said:

INSATIABLE said:

My best friend's sister's Jack Russell won't stop barking. I recently discovered that due to neighbor complaints, she has purchased an electronic shock barking collar. He now barks and cries. I've pleaded with her on the phone. No success. It's a monstrous invention and I can't go over there anymore.

If there's anything you know at all that could assist in my pledge to save the pup, he and I will mail you a very large (and very cushioned) bottle of Grey Goose. Serious. sad
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omg, i hate barking collars. disbelief

if you can convince her to get in touch with me and try my program, just getting rid of the bark collar will be reward enough! nod

(did i just turn down a perfectly good bottle of GG?! doh! )


OMG! I hate them too!
One time I had a neigbor who had a dauchen or how ever you spell it, and they got a bark collar for it. And when it would bark it would get shocked, then it would scream . Literally SCREAM! and the collar would keep shocking him and he would keep screaming. AWEFUL!
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Reply #9 posted 12/18/06 2:22pm

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IrresistibleB1tch said:


omg, i hate barking collars. disbelief

if you can convince her to get in touch with me and try my program, just getting rid of the bark collar will be reward enough! nod

(did i just turn down a perfectly good bottle of GG?! doh! )


It's a deal, Martina. Oh, and don't worry, you'll get a present for the attempt. lol I'll have Jen contact you. Do you prefer email?
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Reply #10 posted 12/18/06 2:22pm

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INSATIABLE said:

Oh, and you don't have to put us in the book--just a word of advice would be appreciated, if anything. We've had at least one discussion on the difficulties of Jack Russells. lol / sad Sadly, I'd be amazed if there were anything to keep him hushed.


oh yeah, Jack Russells, my favorites! lol

a word of advice probably won't cut it, but my program should cut down on the barking naturally. it will take several weeks, and of course the buy-in of the dog's guardian(s), but it's certainly better than putting a dog on a permanent electric chair... confused
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Reply #11 posted 12/18/06 2:24pm

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IrresistibleB1tch said:

INSATIABLE said:

Oh, and you don't have to put us in the book--just a word of advice would be appreciated, if anything. We've had at least one discussion on the difficulties of Jack Russells. lol / sad Sadly, I'd be amazed if there were anything to keep him hushed.


oh yeah, Jack Russells, my favorites! lol

a word of advice probably won't cut it, but my program should cut down on the barking naturally. it will take several weeks, and of course the buy-in of the dog's guardian(s), but it's certainly better than putting a dog on a permanent electric chair... confused

Agreed. Anything is.
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Reply #12 posted 12/18/06 2:24pm

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groundchuck said:

IrresistibleB1tch said:



omg, i hate barking collars. disbelief

if you can convince her to get in touch with me and try my program, just getting rid of the bark collar will be reward enough! nod

(did i just turn down a perfectly good bottle of GG?! doh! )


OMG! I hate them too!
One time I had a neigbor who had a dauchen or how ever you spell it, and they got a bark collar for it. And when it would bark it would get shocked, then it would scream . Literally SCREAM! and the collar would keep shocking him and he would keep screaming. AWEFUL!


ugh, that's just horrible! disbelief

i had a client with two dogs, one of which was a pretty heavy barker. so they put a barking collar on him, and he got shocked every time the OTHER dog barked! i wanted to put that damn thing on the owner and every time they said a word, it would put a few volts through their throats. that would have cured ONE of the problems, for sure.
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Reply #13 posted 12/18/06 2:26pm

Teacher

IrresistibleB1tch said:

Teacher said:

Uzie eats poop. headlp


that one is easy (plus, i'm sure s/he is very well trained, knowing your passion for dogs! hug )

have you tried adding a little bit of zucchini or pineapple to his/her diet? both should do the trick if Uzie is eating his/her own poop - both make the poop less palatable (go figure! lol ). also, a dog can't eat what's not there - so it can't hurt to always pick up after the dog in your own yard.

now, if Uzie is eating other dogs' (or cats') poop, this is obviously not going to work. keep an eye on Uzie during your walks and as soon as s/he starts showing interest in a nice, gently cured pile ill , call Uzie to you offer a food reward. i just hope that the dog treats taste better than pooptoast lol

good luck - let me know if any of this works!



hug I know about the pineapple, she doesn't eat her own... I don't have a yard but ppl here SUCK at picking up after their dogs pissed I keep telling them rolleyes I keep a deathwatch eye on her but sometimes she just gulps something down pout disbelief She goes for high fat content poop (light in colour) since she's on light food herself but honestly it HAS gotten better, I rattle the keys at her if I see her doing it, and I NEVER let her out of my sight even though she's off the leash 99% of the time. I do the treats too at times but I can't do it too much, she's so food-oriented that if she gets used to me having them she won't go off to do her business or play with other dogs, she'll just stare at me and poke my pocket. Damn dog but I love her. lol
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Reply #14 posted 12/18/06 2:27pm

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IrresistibleB1tch said:

groundchuck said:



OMG! I hate them too!
One time I had a neigbor who had a dauchen or how ever you spell it, and they got a bark collar for it. And when it would bark it would get shocked, then it would scream . Literally SCREAM! and the collar would keep shocking him and he would keep screaming. AWEFUL!


ugh, that's just horrible! disbelief

i had a client with two dogs, one of which was a pretty heavy barker. so they put a barking collar on him, and he got shocked every time the OTHER dog barked!

I loathe cruelty to any animal or plant but lol. Sorry!
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Reply #15 posted 12/18/06 2:30pm

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IrresistibleB1tch said:

i've developed a dog training program, and am working on a book. the program is entirely non-violent of course, and uses the natural bond between humans and canines to address common challenges dog owners face.

i could use a few more case studies for my book. so if Fifi has you flustered, or Petey attacks the paperboy, and you're interested in trying my program, send me an orgnote with some details about your particular situation. i can teach you the program by e-mail. all i ask in return is a report back from you on how your dog has responded to the program. i'll incorporate some case studies in my book, so if it is published pray , you may be included.



hmm where do i get my free dog?
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Reply #16 posted 12/18/06 2:37pm

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tch

Teacher said:

IrresistibleB1tch said:



that one is easy (plus, i'm sure s/he is very well trained, knowing your passion for dogs! hug )

have you tried adding a little bit of zucchini or pineapple to his/her diet? both should do the trick if Uzie is eating his/her own poop - both make the poop less palatable (go figure! lol ). also, a dog can't eat what's not there - so it can't hurt to always pick up after the dog in your own yard.

now, if Uzie is eating other dogs' (or cats') poop, this is obviously not going to work. keep an eye on Uzie during your walks and as soon as s/he starts showing interest in a nice, gently cured pile ill , call Uzie to you offer a food reward. i just hope that the dog treats taste better than pooptoast lol

good luck - let me know if any of this works!



hug I know about the pineapple, she doesn't eat her own... I don't have a yard but ppl here SUCK at picking up after their dogs pissed I keep telling them rolleyes I keep a deathwatch eye on her but sometimes she just gulps something down pout disbelief She goes for high fat content poop (light in colour) since she's on light food herself but honestly it HAS gotten better, I rattle the keys at her if I see her doing it, and I NEVER let her out of my sight even though she's off the leash 99% of the time. I do the treats too at times but I can't do it too much, she's so food-oriented that if she gets used to me having them she won't go off to do her business or play with other dogs, she'll just stare at me and poke my pocket. Damn dog but I love her. lol
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oh man, not easy! lol

does she go and do her business on leash? you may need to walk her on leash for a few weeks to get the point across (having her semi-heel - walk next to you, even at somewhat of a distance, but not ahead of you), and reward her with praise rather than treats, so that she's not totally focused on that.

the good news is that, as far as i know, poop-eating is nasty to us humans, but not harmful to the dog.

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Reply #17 posted 12/18/06 2:38pm

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XxAxX said:

IrresistibleB1tch said:

i've developed a dog training program, and am working on a book. the program is entirely non-violent of course, and uses the natural bond between humans and canines to address common challenges dog owners face.

i could use a few more case studies for my book. so if Fifi has you flustered, or Petey attacks the paperboy, and you're interested in trying my program, send me an orgnote with some details about your particular situation. i can teach you the program by e-mail. all i ask in return is a report back from you on how your dog has responded to the program. i'll incorporate some case studies in my book, so if it is published pray , you may be included.



hmm where do i get my free dog?


lol at the shelter - and then i'll teach you how to train him! woot!
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Reply #18 posted 12/18/06 2:38pm

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Number23 said:

IrresistibleB1tch said:



ugh, that's just horrible! disbelief

i had a client with two dogs, one of which was a pretty heavy barker. so they put a barking collar on him, and he got shocked every time the OTHER dog barked!

I loathe cruelty to any animal or plant but lol. Sorry!


no no no! you would have hated it - they ended up with a totally neurotic dog... confused
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Reply #19 posted 12/18/06 2:42pm

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Number23 said:


I loathe cruelty to any animal or plant but lol. Sorry!


no no no! you would have hated it - they ended up with a totally neurotic dog... confused

I know, I know. It just appeals to my sense of humour, like an old 1930's Warner Bros cartoon. I can imagine the poor dog's outrage getting zapped when the other dog barks at the postman or something. lol

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Reply #20 posted 12/18/06 2:46pm

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Reply #22 posted 12/18/06 2:48pm

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Number23 said:

IrresistibleB1tch said:



no no no! you would have hated it - they ended up with a totally neurotic dog... confused

I know, I know. It just appeals to my sense of humour, like an old 1930's Warner Bros cartoon. I can imagine the poor dog's outrage getting zapped when the other dog barks at the postman or something. lol

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i know - i actually appreciate your sick sense of humor! lol
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Reply #23 posted 12/18/06 2:50pm

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I need help with cutting his nails!! He has weekly blood tests and is prodded and poked with no problems but cutting his nails is a nightmare he used 2 allow us but due to a bad experience at a groomers he freaks outs (he was attacked by another dog on the table he pulled back while groomer was cutting his nails and she cut his nail far 2 high OUCH). We are not allowed to take him out until the vets say we can but he has the run of the garden but that’s not giving his nails a work out. Each day we touch and hold his foot place the nail clippers near the foot and rewarding him with a tasty dried crispy fish skin barf been doing this for a month now but he wont let us cut his nails. He is at top of his class at dog training and won a number of awards or as he see’s it rewards of food, my dog trainer says i'm doing everything correct (he will do everything u say but allow us 2 cut his nails fit ). I was going to ask one of the vets to do it but he see’s vets as good people and I don’t want him frightened of them SO HELP!!
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katt said:

I need help with cutting his nails!! He has weekly blood tests and is prodded and poked with no problems but cutting his nails is a nightmare he used 2 allow us but due to a bad experience at a groomers he freaks outs (he was attacked by another dog on the table he pulled back while groomer was cutting his nails and she cut his nail far 2 high OUCH). We are not allowed to take him out until the vets say we can but he has the run of the garden but that’s not giving his nails a work out. Each day we touch and hold his foot place the nail clippers near the foot and rewarding him with a tasty dried crispy fish skin barf been doing this for a month now but he wont let us cut his nails. He is at top of his class at dog training and won a number of awards or as he see’s it rewards of food, my dog trainer says i'm doing everything correct (he will do everything u say but allow us 2 cut his nails fit ). I was going to ask one of the vets to do it but he see’s vets as good people and I don’t want him frightened of them SO HELP!!


i agree, you're doing everything right. have you considered a file rather than clippers? i think sometimes the pressure that clippers put on the nails are uncomfortable for dogs. (both of my dogs hate it, too - i've started on the nail files, filing just a small amount every day or two, that seems to be a little bit better). let me know! hug
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Reply #25 posted 12/18/06 2:56pm

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IrresistibleB1tch said:

katt said:

I need help with cutting his nails!! He has weekly blood tests and is prodded and poked with no problems but cutting his nails is a nightmare he used 2 allow us but due to a bad experience at a groomers he freaks outs (he was attacked by another dog on the table he pulled back while groomer was cutting his nails and she cut his nail far 2 high OUCH). We are not allowed to take him out until the vets say we can but he has the run of the garden but that’s not giving his nails a work out. Each day we touch and hold his foot place the nail clippers near the foot and rewarding him with a tasty dried crispy fish skin barf been doing this for a month now but he wont let us cut his nails. He is at top of his class at dog training and won a number of awards or as he see’s it rewards of food, my dog trainer says i'm doing everything correct (he will do everything u say but allow us 2 cut his nails fit ). I was going to ask one of the vets to do it but he see’s vets as good people and I don’t want him frightened of them SO HELP!!


i agree, you're doing everything right. have you considered a file rather than clippers? i think sometimes the pressure that clippers put on the nails are uncomfortable for dogs. (both of my dogs hate it, too - i've started on the nail files, filing just a small amount every day or two, that seems to be a little bit better). let me know! hug


also, Katt - have you ever heard about TTouch by Linda Tellington? it's a great program, and i am pretty sure she has a chapter on that in her book:



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Reply #26 posted 12/18/06 3:12pm

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IrresistibleB1tch said:

IrresistibleB1tch said:



i agree, you're doing everything right. have you considered a file rather than clippers? i think sometimes the pressure that clippers put on the nails are uncomfortable for dogs. (both of my dogs hate it, too - i've started on the nail files, filing just a small amount every day or two, that seems to be a little bit better). let me know! hug


also, Katt - have you ever heard about TTouch by Linda Tellington? it's a great program, and i am pretty sure she has a chapter on that in her book:





nod I was told about this by the Homeopathic vet and was thinking about going 2 a session once I get permission 2 take him out but he didnt tell me about the book i'm gonna go check amazon now hug

I have tried the file he will let me near the nail but not file it, he shakes all over and whimpers but i will keep trying.
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Reply #27 posted 12/18/06 3:14pm

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katt said:

IrresistibleB1tch said:



also, Katt - have you ever heard about TTouch by Linda Tellington? it's a great program, and i am pretty sure she has a chapter on that in her book:





nod I was told about this by the Homeopathic vet and was thinking about going 2 a session once I get permission 2 take him out but he didnt tell me about the book i'm gonna go check amazon now hug

I have tried the file he will let me near the nail but not file it, he shakes all over and whimpers but i will keep trying.


check it out, i think you'll really like it! a friend of mine is a certified TTouch practitioner, and i've heard some amazing stories! nod

if you want to, we can talk some more about my program, and see if you are interested in participating. but i'm hesitant to suggest this, since it seems like you are doing very well with your current training.
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Reply #28 posted 12/18/06 3:30pm

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katt said:



nod I was told about this by the Homeopathic vet and was thinking about going 2 a session once I get permission 2 take him out but he didnt tell me about the book i'm gonna go check amazon now hug

I have tried the file he will let me near the nail but not file it, he shakes all over and whimpers but i will keep trying.


check it out, i think you'll really like it! a friend of mine is a certified TTouch practitioner, and i've heard some amazing stories! nod

if you want to, we can talk some more about my program, and see if you are interested in participating. but i'm hesitant to suggest this, since it seems like you are doing very well with your current training.

I just purchased the book it was only £7.45 thumbs up! I am looking forward to reading more about TTouch, thanku any tips will be much appreciated hug

I have just finished reading Jan Fennell’s book the Dog Listener book it wasn’t 2 bad but I thought rather repetitive and she seemed 2 write about herself, wish she wrote more about the training methods.
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Reply #29 posted 12/18/06 3:41pm

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tch

katt said:

IrresistibleB1tch said:



check it out, i think you'll really like it! a friend of mine is a certified TTouch practitioner, and i've heard some amazing stories! nod

if you want to, we can talk some more about my program, and see if you are interested in participating. but i'm hesitant to suggest this, since it seems like you are doing very well with your current training.

I just purchased the book it was only £7.45 thumbs up! I am looking forward to reading more about TTouch, thanku any tips will be much appreciated hug

I have just finished reading Jan Fennell’s book the Dog Listener book it wasn’t 2 bad but I thought rather repetitive and she seemed 2 write about herself, wish she wrote more about the training methods.


sweet - great deal on the TTouch book!!

i love Jan Fennell and her approach! woot! but i agree it's a little repetitive, and she's leaving out a few things, imo, such as grooming and socialization (i only read the Dog Listener book - she may write more about those things in her other books). but imho, her approach is far more effective than Cesar Millan's - he's very popular over here right now, and that's one of the reasons i wanted to move ahead with my program - we need more positive training methods.
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