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Reply #30 posted 12/18/06 10:33am

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Condos are better for professional types who don't want to worry about landscaping, painting the exterior, or fixing the roof. Excellent for busy singles.

Homes appreciate more, and are the ultimate domestic dream for many, especially families.

Apartments are temporary and much cheaper, with the least amount of liberties in terms of changing to taste.

Buying is a great investment, but the first year is a huge adjustment. It's incredibly expensive!
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Reply #31 posted 12/18/06 10:36am

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emm said:


$375 mortgage



o my god that is so fucking cheap!
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Reply #32 posted 12/18/06 10:36am

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muirdo said:

emm said:


shut it you!! chair

see if i ever invite you over now rolleyes



where were you going to put me...the basement?

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muirdo said:

I like the idea of a tent and getting back to nature.
woot!



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Reply #33 posted 12/18/06 10:39am

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NDRU said:

emm said:


$375 mortgage



o my god that is so fucking cheap!


i do realize that biggrin
you do pay for that though... at one point i noticed i had paid $4000 in interest and only $1000 of principle on my mortgage

if you can pay more, it will pay off in less years

i was willed some money so could make a large downpayment so i was lucky
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Reply #34 posted 12/18/06 10:41am

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emm said:

i rented for a very long time
if you can do it, i would say buy

condos sound wonderful
but i wouldn't be able to stomach
forking over all those condo fees every month

buying a place like a duplex or a house with a rental suite
would be nice as the incoming rent would help pay the mortgage

i live in an affordable small city with an affordable entry housing market
and the real estate prices are appreciating

$375 mortgage
$85 taxes
$45 homeowner's insurance
$10 water heater rent
$40 water/sewer
$40 electrical
$30 to $250 depending on the month for gas/heat during my canadian summer/winter

in the year i have been in this 1948 one bedroom house
i had a $60 plumbing bill (with the knowledge that i will have to dig up the main eventually)
and a $300 furnace bill (i am pretty sure he fucked me over as a single woman mad )
since it is a single bedroom house it will always have a limited market
but i believe the it has appreciated about $4000 since i bought.

you need a lawn mower and need to be prepared to spend time maintaining your property.
sigh my 140' of sidewalks need shoveling again.
i know my situation would be different in a larger city but here i am very glad to be in my own home.


omfg


I could afford that. Can you move your home here, please? smile
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Reply #35 posted 12/18/06 10:57am

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emm said:



$375 mortgage



omg I wish try $1009.00 and that was just for the mortgage but I did buy in what "the market" considers a major city.
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Reply #36 posted 12/18/06 10:58am

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emm said:

NDRU said:




o my god that is so fucking cheap!


i do realize that biggrin
you do pay for that though... at one point i noticed i had paid $4000 in interest and only $1000 of principle on my mortgage

if you can pay more, it will pay off in less years

i was willed some money so could make a large downpayment so i was lucky


That's pretty typical to pay more on the interest at first. Feels wrong, though.
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Reply #37 posted 12/18/06 10:58am

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NAnomaly said:

emm said:



$375 mortgage



omg I wish try $1009.00 and that was just for the mortgage but I did buy in what "the market" considers a major city.


That still sounds cheap!
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Reply #38 posted 12/18/06 11:51am

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NDRU said:

NAnomaly said:




omg I wish try $1009.00 and that was just for the mortgage but I did buy in what "the market" considers a major city.


That still sounds cheap!



I know compared to other areas and places true but it still hurt when I wrote out the check every month...pain is pain. wink
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Reply #39 posted 12/18/06 11:54am

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NAnomaly said:

NDRU said:



That still sounds cheap!



I know compared to other areas and places true but it still hurt when I wrote out the check every month...pain is pain. wink


definitely!
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Reply #40 posted 12/18/06 1:37pm

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well thanks for all of the tips/experiences/advice that all of you have been giving me. grouphug
I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince.
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Reply #41 posted 12/19/06 4:03am

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hmm, so i guess in summary it's either:

if you can afford....opt for a house or a townhouse, depending on if you want a lawn or not, lifestyle, etc.

if you can't afford...then rent...

is this what most of you are saying?
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Reply #42 posted 12/19/06 4:46am

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I hope to buy within 2 years but I'm unclear on the difference between a condo & a townhouse hmmm
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Reply #43 posted 12/19/06 5:08am

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the difference between a CONDO and a townhouse can be confusing ... even for me and i am in the industry ... it has to do with more LEGAL things (rights of the owners)than ... well .... you know ... drive by and look ... and say ... "oh that is a townhouse " ... with a condo you own a PART of the association .... with a townhouse you own a deed (much like a house )...

in general --- with a condo ... you own the inside of the place - they used to say you own INSIDE the walls ... so in other words .... if the roof starts to leak - NOT your problem - the association takes care of it ... etc ... the negative with a condo is that- in general - you have higher monthly fees and you cant do things like plant things .... if u are into gardening , etc .... also you cant add on usually - if u wanna add a porch or a patio , etc

HOWEVER ... with a townhouse - in general ... you own the land .... and therefore alot of the time you CAN have a garden or plant your favorite plant in the side planting area ... etc ...AND you do own the roof ! ...

here is where it gets confusing ... BECAUSE ... i can show you townhouses that have higher fees that maintain the roofs ...and that also do more of the outside lawn mowing and snow shoveling and ... also have rules that you cant do things outside like plant a garden ... alot of times you must read the declarations and such .... and they spell out what you can and cannot do .... very bland reading ... but .... you really should understand that they are designed to make the community continue to look nice , etc ...
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Reply #44 posted 12/19/06 5:12am

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SnidelyWhiplash said:

the difference between a CONDO and a townhouse can be confusing ... even for me and i am in the industry ... it has to do with more LEGAL things (rights of the owners)than ... well .... you know ... drive by and look ... and say ... "oh that is a townhouse " ... with a condo you own a PART of the association .... with a townhouse you own a deed (much like a house )...

in general --- with a condo ... you own the inside of the place - they used to say you own INSIDE the walls ... so in other words .... if the roof starts to leak - NOT your problem - the association takes care of it ... etc ... the negative with a condo is that- in general - you have higher monthly fees and you cant do things like plant things .... if u are into gardening , etc .... also you cant add on usually - if u wanna add a porch or a patio , etc

HOWEVER ... with a townhouse - in general ... you own the land .... and therefore alot of the time you CAN have a garden or plant your favorite plant in the side planting area ... etc ...AND you do own the roof ! ...

here is where it gets confusing ... BECAUSE ... i can show you townhouses that have higher fees that maintain the roofs ...and that also do more of the outside lawn mowing and snow shoveling and ... also have rules that you cant do things outside like plant a garden ... alot of times you must read the declarations and such .... and they spell out what you can and cannot do .... very bland reading ... but .... you really should understand that they are designed to make the community continue to look nice , etc ...


Awesome, thank you so much for this info! woot! So if I don't give a flying shit about gardening (which I don't), go condo - I 'll just pick one that looks nice outside already dancing jig
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Reply #45 posted 12/19/06 5:33am

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its been a few yrs since i had a class on it .. but also i think there are other "classes" of condos ... like co-op , etc .... most condos that people in the city think about area multi leveled whereas--- around me ... there arent many differences between a condo and a townhouse to the naked eye .... my mom still thinks this one place near us is a condo and i keep telling her ... "no mom ... that is a townhouse " .... lol .... i used to sell a competing townhouse - and my townhouses did have very low fees (like 10.00 a month just to pay for the common area and the mowing of the common areas)--- versus the other townhome that had like 69.00 a month (but they paid for mowing of all the ground and painting ... and the roof when it went bad , etc ) .... i was always selling the fact that 69.00 x 12 = a hell of a lot of money ! wink

having said that --- the other townhouses (not mine) sold like hotcakes because they were in a lil better school district .... (most of them were at least) ... neutral
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Reply #46 posted 12/19/06 10:17am

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missfee said:

hmm, so i guess in summary it's either:

if you can afford....opt for a house or a townhouse, depending on if you want a lawn or not, lifestyle, etc.

if you can't afford...then rent...

is this what most of you are saying?


the other benefit to renting is that you're not responsible for fixing anything. Of course, getting your landlord to fix stuff can be harder than doing it yourself...
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Reply #47 posted 12/19/06 2:58pm

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Okay here's my opinion on this topic:

As others have said, renting an apartment is throwing money away and you don't want to do that if you don't have to.

I have lived in a condo for the last 17 years, and let me tell you, it's not all it's cracked up to be. You have to pay a maintenance fee every month that can be pricey (I pay $170.00 per month, and I feel it's a big ripoff, quite honestly). Plus, you can be assessed at any time to pay extra money when the condo association decides that they don't have enough money in the reserve to do some renovations or whatnot. The place I live at is notorious for trying to pull that shit all the time. One time, they tried to get people who lived in a one-bedroom condo (such as myself) to pay a higher monthly maintenance fee from those people who owned two and three-bedroom condos. Their reasoning was, "It will raise the value of everyone's condo" blah, blah, blah. What a bunch of bullshit! Luckily, we got to vote on it, and of course I voted no. I wrote on the ballot form something to the effect of, "Are you people crazy? What are you smoking? To ask people who own a one bedroom condo to pay more money than people who own a two and three bedroom condo is ridiculous, and I am not paying it. Decisions like this make me wonder just what kind of "board" we have around here." Luckily, this idea got voted down, but the board of the condo association where I live is notorious for coming up with harebrained ideas like this all the time, and it drives me insane. When you live in a condo, you have no control over how your money is spent for repairs and whatnot, you have people on a board deciding it for you, and that can really suck at times.

Another drawback to owning a condo is paying for property taxes on land that is not soley yours. I just got my property tax bill for the last six months, to the tune of $748.00. eyepop pissed I wouldn't mind paying this if the little yard in the back of my house was mine and mine only, but it's a backyard that is shared with everybody else with who lives in the building. Again, another ripoff all the way around.

Also, several people mentioned condos that used to be apartments. If you do decide to move into such a building, I suggest making sure that the soundproofing is good. Some former apartment buildings have lousy soundproofing, and the sound can really carry. The place I live at has thin walls, and every sound seems to be magnified. When a person slams a door, talks in the hallway, runs the water, etc., you can hear it, sometimes at hours that you would not like to. I can't tell you the number of times that I have been woken up from a sound sleep because the bitch downstairs has slammed her closet doors.

Of course, if you buy a free standing condo or townhouse, the above mentioned issues that I've mentioned might not be as much of an issue.

My recommendation is to buy a house. If I had it to do all over again, I would have stayed at home a little longer to save more money so that I could buy a house. But I moved in here when I was 26 years old because I was ready to move out and be on my own. Right now, I am saving to buy a house so that I can get the hell out of here. It won't be until a few more years, but I'm stashing away as much money as I can so that I can make this dream come true. I'm determined to make it happen, come hell or high water, no matter what.
RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you.
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Reply #48 posted 12/19/06 3:35pm

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psychodelicide said:

You have to pay a maintenance fee every month that can be pricey (I pay $170.00 per month

eek If you think that's pricey, you would not want to be livin' in my 'hood. disbelief What city do you live in? confuse
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Reply #49 posted 12/19/06 3:36pm

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Reply #50 posted 12/19/06 4:01pm

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Ace said:

psychodelicide said:

You have to pay a maintenance fee every month that can be pricey (I pay $170.00 per month

eek If you think that's pricey, you would not want to be livin' in my 'hood. disbelief What city do you live in? confuse


I live in a "rich" neighborhood, but the condo was cheap, so that was why I bought it. lol Where do you live?
RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you.
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Reply #51 posted 12/19/06 7:12pm

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Ace said:


eek If you think that's pricey, you would not want to be livin' in my 'hood. disbelief What city do you live in? confuse


I live in a "rich" neighborhood, but the condo was cheap, so that was why I bought it. lol Where do you live?

Toronto.
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Reply #52 posted 12/19/06 7:15pm

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Ace said:

psychodelicide said:



I live in a "rich" neighborhood, but the condo was cheap, so that was why I bought it. lol Where do you live?

Toronto.


Where abouts?
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Reply #53 posted 12/19/06 7:18pm

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Ace said:


Toronto.


Where abouts?

"Entertainment" District.
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Reply #54 posted 12/19/06 7:30pm

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Ace said:

JustErin said:



Where abouts?

"Entertainment" District.


Had to look it up to know where it is.

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Reply #55 posted 12/19/06 7:37pm

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Ace said:


"Entertainment" District.


Had to look it up to know where it is.


How come our giant erection (the CN Tower) is rendered, but not its nuts (SkyDome)?
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Reply #56 posted 12/19/06 7:37pm

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...Oh, I'm sorry: I mean "Rogers Centre". rolleyes
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Reply #57 posted 12/19/06 7:39pm

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Ace said:

...Oh, I'm sorry: I mean "Rogers Centre". rolleyes


That means nothing to me as well.

I've only been to Toronto maybe 10 times.
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Reply #58 posted 12/19/06 7:42pm

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Ace said:

...Oh, I'm sorry: I mean "Rogers Centre". rolleyes


That means nothing to me as well.

I've only been to Toronto maybe 10 times.

SkyDome was purchased by Rogers Cable a year or two ago and they renamed the stadium. But anyone who actually refers to it as "The Rogers Centre" can slurp my nuts.
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Reply #59 posted 12/19/06 7:45pm

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By the way, I can see the CN Tower from my window and, thanks to Conan O'Brien when he did his show here, I can no longer look at it without picturing it in a wrestling match with Seattle's Space Needle. lol
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