i just find it confusing that some peeps who love animals don't feel the same about children btw, it really doesn't matter as long as those who don't like kids don't have 'em. otherwise we end up with abused children who just may turn out to be messed up adults.

coolcat said:

you don't find it hypocritical to say that you shouldn't dislike "any one group of people" but at the same time have no problem calling them sociopaths? as devotedpuppy and others have pointed out, no one here's saying they universally hate every last child. all that's being expressed is a preference not to be around kids or to have kids of their own. it's not some attack on children as a group of people, as it keeps being interpreted.

evenstar3 said:

flyaway was refrencing a book, not calling anyone a sociopath...
the title of this thread is "I HATE children" NOT I dislike children or I don't want to have any children....
the thread is being interpreted for what it is...a HATE thread.

coolcat said:

why isn't it acceptable to dislike children and like other groups of people?

evenstar3 said:

But isn't it just as hypocritical to judge a racist while saying that one should not judge people?



If somebody said... I have a preference not to be around XXX... (insert some group of people for XXX... race, gender or sexuality). Would it be acceptable?

DevotedPuppy said:

Suppose somebody started a thread here saying "I Hate Women" or "I Hate Men"... would it be ok? I expect a lot of people would be extremely offended.

brownsugar said:

I adore animals and always have. I think they're just about the cutest things on earth, no matter what kind they are in fact.

Kids however, well, they just don't do anything for me. They never really have. I hardly ever look at a baby or little kids and think, "Oh what a sweetie!" I never want to hold them, and I really feel nothing for them. It's actually very odd for me sometimes though and I wonder why I'm so cold and indifferent to them. I just don't have any maternal instinct for little humans it seems.

I don't "hate" them though. I just don't feel anything for them. Having said that, we have been talking about having a baby soon. God help me! I'm sure I would like my own kids though.

minneapolisgenius said:

Why? I don't understand.

minneapolisgenius said:

coolcat said:

I don't think everyone has kids because they absolutely always wanted them their whole lives. Sometimes, it's a more gradual desision. I used to think that whole "biological clock" thing was bullshit, but I'm beginning to think it may be true. I also think (I assume you're a man) that it's a very difficult decision for many women to make. Some women, especially alot of women I know personally, always said they'd never have kids and then they do. That doesn't mean that they turned out to be a bad mother just because they didn't know for sure what they wanted at first. I suppose that's what will happen to me. I don't want to go my whole life without having any more family after me. As a dancer, the decision is even more difficult because you're always wondering if that means the end of your career for good. I also don't want to be 40 all of the sudden and realize that I "forgot" to have kids and suddenly want them.

Hell, my mother had all three of us kids in my family by "accident" WHILE on birth control the whole time. None of us were planned, and she turned out to be a great mother. Not overly doting or anything, and she also was never one to like other people's kids either, so i suppose that's where I get that attitude towards children myself. I had the best childhood I could ever have asked for though.

minneapolisgenius said:

I was exactly like that before I had a child. didn't care to hold one or watch anyone else's kids, never really thought they were cute...kinda thought they were sticky and noisy and often gritted my teeth in the stores when one was screaming....
also didn't have an overwhelming feeling that I didn't want any of my own...so I hesitantly decided that I couldn't NOT have a child and wonder my whole life if I should have...so we did. And I gotta say...it's the BEST thing in the world to me. My son, is my love! he melts my heart and always will.
I do look at children completely differently now, I see the absolute helplessness in them and the utter sweet innocence that makes them so "cute"
I'm positive that when you do have a baby, you'll be a GREAT mom and will love every minute of it. don't get me wrong...it's a hard job too and sometimes love doesn't come immediately but...it will and it gets easier by the day. at least for me it did.
good luck

Shorty said:

Exactly! I know they annoy me now, but I'm sure I won't keep that attitude with my own. Although, it's all too true that some people DO though. I hope I'm not one of those people.

I always remember my mom saying, "Yeah, I never really cared for other peoples' kids, but YOU guys were always just so cute!" At which I would always roll my eyes because I couldn't imagine ANY kids being cute. Not even me when I was little.

And thanks though.

LordEvil said:

I am willing to bet some unsuspecting adult way back when thought the same thing when you were having your temper tantrum or just crying in public!


[Edited 12/19/06 11:37am]

DexMSR said:

In the spirit of the season,
I would like to quote Capt. Stubing of Love Boat fame once said,
"When it come's to the problems of the world,
children or not the problem.
They are the answer."

Getting frustrated with children is a sign of lack of patience on the side of the frustratee. I'ts an expectation that these kids should have the wisdom that can only result from living more years of life experience (oops.....sorry...) & that is available only to adults.

As a adults, we all have the wisdom that accumulates with the amount of time that we as individuals have been on this Earth. But we are also provided with the choice to utilize that wisdom or not. (geez...) Allowing impatience to lead one's opinions,decisions & therefore your actions is choice not to use one's wisdom.

It's a decision to act with an immaturity that suprpasses or at least, equals the immaturity of the child.

Now, if you'll excuse me,
there's a gopher who's head keeps popping out.

Illustrator said:

okay i didn't read all of that but i just could'nt deny those farts

brownsugar said:

Coincidently
in my household,
we affectionately refer to farts as "brown sugar".

Illustrator said:

isnt that special

Illustrator said:

Ever watch Super Nanny? We all know that there are some horrible kids out there and equally as horrible (or just clueless or lazy) parents of these kids. We, the viewers of shows like this, and in real life, often look on in horror at the antics of some of these kids. When you see behavior like that, it's perfectly normal to get annoyed or frustrated with both the parents AND the children.

minneapolisgenius said:

Ok. That's cool.

coolcat said:

People tend to be very quick at equating the dislike of children to racism, which I think is off base and is just a spin to start a lot of grandstanding and actually skirt the issue.

I'm doing a side job right now that is focusing on the hiring practises of certain companies, and most human resource centers are very aware of race and religion, but judge more based on appearance and we have found that overweight people and bald people have a tougher time trying to get a job even if they are quailified.

So to everybody that wants to call us racists because we don't like children and don't want expensive meals and movies ruined by them, you better check yourselves because i bet most of you crying "racist" judge people based on how they look as well as some of you might even be in the position to hire somebody.
[Edited 12/19/06 13:46pm]

CarrieLee said:

CarrieLee said:

okay that is just wrong

LordEvil said:

aside from that, many people who have children you can catch saying out thier own mouths at sometime or another, that they wished they didnt have them. And they truely mean this.

brownsugar said:

Sometimes we try to guess whether the end result was granulated or powder.

Illustrator said:

powder