Why any anybody in there right mind want Allen Iverson on their team? Who is going 2 trade 4 this GUN who shots 39% from the floor.

I heard he was going to the Miami Heat.

jaimestarr79 said:

Poor Heat. This guy is a team KILLER.

Shaq is the only one that could keep him in line. There is no way he could play with big Head Kobe in LA.

In today's NY Daily News, I read this quote from Phil Jackson - "I wouldn't say outright we have no interest".

I'm like, Phil, get off the pipe. Kode & Iverson together? Hell no.

Bring him to the Knicks...We need some help

DanceWme said:

Signing veterans(on the downside) with big contracts is what got the Knicks in the mess they're in. The only hope for the Knicks is if Isiah gets fired or hit by a bus, whichever comes first.

uPtoWnNY said:

Ouch. I would NOT want Iverson any where NEAR my team. This guy will NEVER win anything close 2 a title or championship.

uPtoWnNY said:

I want Jeff Van Gundy and Marcus Camby back

Graycap23 said:

You seem quite biased against the answer... He is a great team player if he gets on a team. He has a strong personality and the people they have brought in to "help" him have been less than steller. He was asked to play the way he does the same way Kobe was asked to play the way he did last year.

It's hard for anyone to win a championship. He has not had the team to win one. It's not his fault. He is the only reason his team got to the finals in the first place. He will be a welcome addition on someone's team that needs a tough scorer, decent defender and great ball handler. Don't get caught up in his gunner rep when that is what was asked of him his whole career.

Sinister said:

I played ball for 25 years. Iverson is a GUNNNNN period. Career 39% shooter. I'll will agree that he has NOT had much of a team but he is the MAIN reason 4 that. No one wants 2 play with the guy.

Sinister said:

well said. If he does go to the Twolves, that will be perfect. KG is a selfless gamer. Say what you want about AI, hell, I'll agree with most of it. But the man is an absolute WARRIOR on the floor and surround him with talent, and good things will happen.

Graycap23 said:

In defense of The Answer, the 76ers did come close in 2001 by going to the finals. But I agree stay away from the Knicks. They already have their own Iverson with Starbury. He's never going to win also.

grammar edit
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sextonseven said:

Graycap23 said:

I have played ball for 21 and as having experienced being the main scoring option on a bunch of scrubs I can attest to the mentality he has. You have to carry a team like the Phili has had where Eric Snow is your second scoring option...yeah I would shoot a lot too...His shooting percentage has little to do with if he is a good or team player.

Many hall of fame players were gunners until someone put a team around them...in some cases even with a team they were gunners. Jordan was a gunner and some would say still was even after all the championships. And I think your wrong about no one wanting to play with him. He is well respected. Problem is he never has had the talent around him so we can't say how he would play with talent.

Sinister said:

exactly, Iverson with a team built to COMPLEMENT him would be damn tough.

jerseykrs said:

I hear U. As long as he goes 2 ANY team but the Bulls, I'll be happy.
The Sixers have been trying 2 trade this guy 4 years.....No TAKERS.
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jerseykrs said:

He needs a big man...look what that did for Dwayne Wade, Kobe and other great guards.

Graycap23 said:

Please tell me when has big contract having superstars been traded with ease? Mcgrady? There was nothing easy about that an Orlando got robbed. Teams are wary of doing big star deals cause you never really get equal value. It's hard to trade a guy in hoops that has a max contract or close to it. Has litte to do with what you think it does. And the Bulls have a gunner already. Ben Gordon.

Sinister said:

Lol.....the NBA does a GREAT job of presenting certain facts 2 the public. His contract is an issue with the $$$, but his PACKAGE is the REAL issue. Package = attitude, thug image, gunning/losing ways, lack of GOOD practice habits and overall image.
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Sinister said:[quote]

Many hall of fame players were gunners until someone put a team around them...in some cases even with a team they were gunners. Jordan was a gunner and some would say still was even after all the championships.[quote]


the funny thing is.....during Jordans' gunning days he was shooting 52% and was NOT taking 35 shots a game.

Graycap23 said:

Yeah his character is always going to be a question but he is not the first to have character issues. His are more public than most. Underneath it all image is all it is...Kobe proved that to this generation...He at least does not try to hide who and what he is.

Larry Bird has a kid he never really supported or acknowledged but he doesn't get bad press. Magic cheated on his wife numerous times, got aids and now all we talk about is him beating the disease not the numerous discresions. Jordan as well is guilty of the same. The media can make you a hero or a villain...His practice habits may be bad but his on the court results are not. And again what does his shooting percentage have to do with his set of skills? If you can drop 35+ on any team at any time a night I don't think your shooting percentage is going to be a major issue.

He is not a jumpshooting specialist nor is he a pass first point, he is a scorer and that is what his specialty is. If he was a 3 point specialist or a typical Rip Hamilton jump shooting guard that would be different.
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Graycap23 said:[quote]Sinister said:[quote]

Many hall of fame players were gunners until someone put a team around them...in some cases even with a team they were gunners. Jordan was a gunner and some would say still was even after all the championships.

And Jordan was a 6'6 guard and most of his points came on dunks and layups. Let me know if you can find a under 6'0 175 pound guard that can do what Iverson does and shoot a percentage higher than 42% consistanly. I would love to read about him.
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Sinister said:[quote]Graycap23 said:[quote]

Sinister said:

Isiah Thomas
John Lucas
Tiny Archiball
Calvin Murphy
.....should I go on?

AI would be a nice fit in Minnesota with KG and Ricky Davis.

jerseykrs said:

Now there is a thought, my lowly Warriors could sure use him. I thought brining Nelly back would finally turn the Warriors around, but after a great pre-season (7-1) and a good start, they are playing like the Warriors of the past 12 years.

Maybe Iverson matched up with Baron Davis could do something.

Graycap23 said:

None of them did what Iverson does. My exact statement was...."Let me know if you can find a under 6'0 175 pound guard that can do what Iverson does and shoot a percentage higher than 42% consistanly. I would love to read about him."

Did any of them win a scoring title? Did any of them have to as a small man carry a franchise for about a decade alone? Did any of them have a career average of 28.0 points a game, 6.0 assists, 4.0 rebounds and 2.34 steals over their career? You just listed small guys that played the game at a high level. None of them equal Iverson...Isiah included. Not to mention no one asked of them what the Sixers have asked of Iverson over his career. Im not even debating this with you cause im an Iverson fan. Im a fan of the game...you cannot dismiss him as just some gunner. He is a will be in the Hall of Fame at some point im sure.

You don't like him that's cool...to each his/her own but you shouldn't dismiss him so easily.

as a Philadelphian I am in mourning over this.Philly loved Allen and I still do...Im like really messed up from this

Graycap23 said:

Ridiculous. First of all, he was is a career 42% shooter. Lest we forget the MVP and trip to the finals where the best teammates were Mutombo, Eric Snow, and Aaron Mckie. If it werent for the Shaq and Kobe Lakers, he would have his title. If he had the height of Jordan or Kobe, with his first step and relentlessness, 3 titles wouldve already been his. The Sixers have never surrounded him with enough talent. A no defense playin Stackhouse, an old Webber, Larry "empty numbers" Hughes, too many other spares to be mentioned. This mess is Philly's fault, not AI's

Wherever he goes, he'll look good in the uniform