My actions are based on a set of electro-chemical messages in my nervous system that direct my action.
Where do these messages come from? And why aren't they random messages that cause random actions? | |
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Yes i believe in an afterlife. When i die i will go to Heaven. Peace and Love! | |
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For me, persoanlly, it's hard for me not to believe that there is a God. Look at how complex our body operates, look at the complexity of nature. What makes out heartbeat? What moves those electro chemical messages? How is it that there is so much order in our body and in nature? _______________________________________________________________________________________ You can hate me for who I am, cuz I won't be something that i'm not. | |
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yes | |
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yes going to that club tonight " could I be... the most beautiful man in the world! plain to see, i"m the reason that God made a man!"UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN GRADUATE! VERY PRESTIGIOUS! | |
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This is a very good question.
I would not call what I believe in an afterlife. I believe that it was the Creator's purpose that man enjoy life unending. I believe that the Creator's purpose will be realized. That is why there exists this word in our vocabulary: Resurrection I believe that there will be a resurrecion of the dead to a happy life in a paradise right here on earth. So for those who have lost loved ones in death, the bible holds out a beautiful hope. "And God will wipe out all tears from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will sorrow, nor pain nor outcry be anymore." The bible does not teach that the soul continues to live at death, nor that souls will be tormented in a firey hell. As a matter of fact the bible says that death and hell (hell or Hades simply being the grave) will be thrown into the Lake of Fire...Then the bible goes on to say that "this is the second death"...the Lake of Fire. In other words, the lake of fire is a deeper death from which there is no restoration. Anyone who has lost a loved one in death can take comfort in knowing that the person is sleeping or resting now, with the prospect of living again. Jesus said "do not marvel at this...the hour is coming when all those in the memorial tombs will hear his name and come out..." This is what I believe. _ So...how's everybody doing? | |
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Snap said: We are not at the mercy of our brains.
Melody said: Snap...you are truly deep...beautifully deep. Keep speaking it... - So...how's everybody doing? | |
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SensualMelody said: This is a very good question.
I would not call what I believe in an afterlife. I believe that it was the Creator's purpose that man enjoy life unending. I believe that the Creator's purpose will be realized. That is why there exists this word in our vocabulary: Resurrection I believe that there will be a resurrecion of the dead to a happy life in a paradise right here on earth. So for those who have lost loved ones in death, the bible holds out a beautiful hope. "And God will wipe out all tears from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will sorrow, nor pain nor outcry be anymore." The bible does not teach that the soul continues to live at death, nor that souls will be tormented in a firey hell. As a matter of fact the bible says that death and hell (hell or Hades simply being the grave) will be thrown into the Lake of Fire...Then the bible goes on to say that "this is the second death"...the Lake of Fire. In other words, the lake of fire is a deeper death from which there is no restoration. Anyone who has lost a loved one in death can take comfort in knowing that the person is sleeping or resting now, with the prospect of living again. Jesus said "do not marvel at this...the hour is coming when all those in the memorial tombs will hear his name and come out..." This is what I believe. _ Me 2 | |
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IceNine said: slm4m said: why?
Because I do not believe in ideas of heaven, hell, a soul, the afterlife, etc. All that I am is bound up in the physiological structures of the brain. My actions are based on a set of electro-chemical messages in my nervous system that direct my action. When I die, the electrical current will leave my body and my brain will cease to function... thus I will be gone. Implying that life after death exists is to assume the existence of a soul and therefore to discount the importance of the brain. Since all of my behaviors are produced and governed by the brain, the destruction of the brain will cause all of my traits to die as well. We all know that injury to the brain can render a person so very different personality-wise and emotionally that they are not the same person, due to the disparity between the "old them" and the "new them" after the brain trauma. We are the sum total of our appearance and our interactions... these things are bound up in the physiology of the body and cannot survive death. Fear is the mind-killer. | |
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Yes of course.our Lives are a Reflection of People,Places&things of the past but Out Afterlife will only get Better&Highlight the Quality we all have in us.in the Afterlife we will truly be as One.I believe in the Spirit&the Power&I feel that a Eye-Opening day awaits.a Place where we are all truly free.on Earth we were Picked to Grace God's Green Earth&that is quite Powerful because many people never make it. mistermaxxx | |
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Don't want come back to the earth... too scary! :fishlap: = = | |
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yeah, yeah... | |
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Yes - I most definately believe in good and evil, heaven and hell.
God is alive, and he gives us all the opportunity to learn from our experiences. He gives us a chance to develop spiritually. He gives us a chance to fill the void/emptiness with his love, therefore, loving others. Slm4m, sorry about the loss of your friend! ----- [This message was edited Sun Sep 1 14:23:50 PDT 2002 by EchoOfMySoul] | |
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I beleive Heaven is full of happy Jahovah Witnesses eating grapes and lounging with wild animals... | |
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...In that glorious land in the sky (way up high).
Work and pray (work and pray), live on hay (live on hay), You'll get pie in the sky when you die (that's a lie!) - Joe Hill | |
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AbucahX said: How is it that there is so much order in our body and in nature? How is it that there's so much torture, cruelty, chaos, pain, suffering, misery, calamity, etc.? Did God create that too?
And if God created everything, did he also create Himself? | |
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IceNine said: slm4m said: why?
Because I do not believe in ideas of heaven, hell, a soul, the afterlife, etc. All that I am is bound up in the physiological structures of the brain. My actions are based on a set of electro-chemical messages in my nervous system that direct my action. When I die, the electrical current will leave my body and my brain will cease to function... thus I will be gone. Implying that life after death exists is to assume the existence of a soul and therefore to discount the importance of the brain. Since all of my behaviors are produced and governed by the brain, the destruction of the brain will cause all of my traits to die as well. We all know that injury to the brain can render a person so very different personality-wise and emotionally that they are not the same person, due to the disparity between the "old them" and the "new them" after the brain trauma. We are the sum total of our appearance and our interactions... these things are bound up in the physiology of the body and cannot survive death. | |
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WillieThePimp said: AbucahX said: How is it that there is so much order in our body and in nature? How is it that there's so much torture, cruelty, chaos, pain, suffering, misery, calamity, etc.? Did God create that too?
And if God created everything, did he also create Himself? SensualMelody said: The bible has very clear answers to those questions.
There it tells you exactly what God created. No, God did not create any of the things you mentioned...they are not even creations...but are actions resulting from choices made by people who were created with free will. Did God create himself? A more relevant question may be "Did man create himself?" - So...how's everybody doing? | |
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SensualMelody said:[quote] WillieThePimp said: AbucahX said: How is it that there is so much order in our body and in nature? How is it that there's so much torture, cruelty, chaos, pain, suffering, misery, calamity, etc.? Did God create that too?
And if God created everything, did he also create Himself? SensualMelody said: The bible has very clear answers to those questions.
There it tells you exactly what God created. No, God did not create any of the things you mentioned...they are not even creations...but are actions resulting from choices made by people who were created with free will. Did God create himself? A more relevant question may be "Did man create himself?" Great point SensualMelody...Perfect answer/question! "Did man create himself?" Now here comes the ones saying Man and Woman create life...No we create and nurture the body that carries life! ...On board a plane when they take head count...They do not count and say 215 (example) bodies counted for...They say 215 souls aboard. We are counted as SOULS not bodies. [This message was edited Mon Sep 2 3:04:54 PDT 2002 by TailGate] | |
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i don't believe in 1...once u die u r worm food ...so deny yourself nothing enjoy the ride while u can and try 2 leave a positive impact | |
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btw if there is an afterlife i'm going 2 hell...since i've been raising it 4 years! oh well i'll have more fun burning w/ all the rock stars,sinners and false prophets then i would sitting on a golden hill w/ the popes and the saints...lol...i've had a vision of hell...it's eternity in a town called marlboro ...(where i used 2 live) | |
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AprilMichelle said: btw if there is an afterlife i'm going 2 hell...since i've been raising it 4 years! oh well i'll have more fun burning w/ all the rock stars,sinners and false prophets then i would sitting on a golden hill w/ the popes and the saints...lol...i've had a vision of hell...it's eternity in a town called marlboro ...(where i used 2 live)
There is no 'Hell' for you to be sent. It is just scarifying doctrine fabricated by Churches to ensure membership and control. 'God is love' - he wouldn't torture you eternally. | |
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Mr7 said: AprilMichelle said: btw if there is an afterlife i'm going 2 hell...since i've been raising it 4 years! oh well i'll have more fun burning w/ all the rock stars,sinners and false prophets then i would sitting on a golden hill w/ the popes and the saints...lol...i've had a vision of hell...it's eternity in a town called marlboro ...(where i used 2 live)
There is no 'Hell' for you to be sent. It is just scarifying doctrine fabricated by Churches to ensure membership and control. 'God is love' - he wouldn't torture you eternally. That is exactly right Mr 7...there is no such thing as hell..If God tortured his creations eternally for not obeying the "10 Commandments" then God is hateful and full of veagence...If church goers truly believe that "God is love" why do they believe in a burning hell? That is absurd, there is no such place as a hell where souls burn eternally. If God operates on the level that he'll send souls to hell eternally then God is Satan himself. _______________________________________________________________________________________ You can hate me for who I am, cuz I won't be something that i'm not. | |
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exactly Mr7 i agree
we all have god in us (whether or not we are aware of god's presence is up to us) and imo although churches can help make the connection often they simply provide 'doctrines' by which we abide and through which we can 'know' god. if we fail or disobey the doctrine our church presents us, we are cast out of the house of the church (along with our weekly tithe$$) so the church also motivates us with a reason not to leave it (hellfire and eternal damnation). as if god would ever be so unforgiving | |
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"afterlife" = wishful thinking
If you want a preview of what it's like to be dead, just think of the time before you were born. "When they tell me 2 walk a straight line, I put on crooked shoes" | |
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SensualMelody said:
The bible has very clear answers to those questions.
The Bible has "very clear answers" to why chaos, pain, suffering, misery and calamity occur... they are "actions resulting from choices made by people who were created with free will?"
There it tells you exactly what God created. No, God did not create any of the things you mentioned...they are not even creations...but are actions resulting from choices made by people who were created with free will Did God create himself? A more relevant question may be "Did man create himself?" RELEVANT TO WHAT??? It's stated throughout the Bible and Judeo-Christian dogma that "God created everything." Look, please don't try to "answer" these questions with cryptic, fluffy, cognitive dissonance. | |
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WillieThePimp said: SensualMelody said:
The bible has very clear answers to those questions.
The Bible has "very clear answers" to why chaos, pain, suffering, misery and calamity occur... they are "actions resulting from choices made by people who were created with free will?"
There it tells you exactly what God created. No, God did not create any of the things you mentioned...they are not even creations...but are actions resulting from choices made by people who were created with free will Did God create himself? A more relevant question may be "Did man create himself?" RELEVANT TO WHAT??? It's stated throughout the Bible and Judeo-Christian dogma that "God created everything." Look, please don't try to "answer" these questions with cryptic, fluffy, cognitive dissonance.FrontTribe: That's interesting.You said throughout the bible it says God created EVERYTHING...do you have scriptures?
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Not like people usually mean it.
Heard the thing about the carriage? What is a carriage? There are wheels, but that's not a carriage. There is a body, but that's not a carriage. Seats, but still not the carriage. However, there is no 'essence of carriage' floating outside of the parts. I think I'm sorta like that. I don't think I have a soul, an eternal being sort of thing, but I do think that the person I am is more than whatever is buzzing in my brain at any given moment. My life, the impacts that I've had in the world and whatnot, exist beyond my brain. To put it another way: I don't believe I'll exist forever, but I believe I will have existed forever. This universe will never again be what it was without me. Doves, Mel!ssa | |
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