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Spats said: Anx said: i think it's possible for some couples to share an entire lifetime without even getting that deep into their own desires and wants. i think some people have entire lifetimes they'll never visit, simply due to how they've been raised and because of the expectations placed on them. and really, truly, i think many of these people are genuinely happy, and they truly enjoy having a marriage because it's necessary in order to build a family, and that's what you're supposed to do, so don't go questioning it. and really, that's not completely as fascist and pathetic as it looks plunked out in an internet forum. it's just a different way of looking at life and love and relationships. what's more, this model i'm attempting to describe, i think has more to do with following generations of tradition than it does with trying to emulate fictional relationships passed on by the mass media. i'm not saying this is an ideal state of marital bliss, but i do believe it exists, and if the happiness is real, i would consider it to be valid "love". Marriage is not needed to build a family and that is not what we are supposed to do. Can if ya want. I'm not necessarily talking about in SpatsWorld. I'm talking more in traditional, salt of the earth, conservative-whatever family life. Which, I know, is less and less the norm, but most all of us come from that kind of family, even if it was a few generations back. | |
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evenstar3 said: jerseykrs said:  i tried quoting the wisdom of the mooninites at him, but it was lost on him  [Ignignokt] Err, you must respect yourself [Ignignokt] Forst you wreck yourself [Err] Hey man, you made a rhyme! [Ignignokt] Yes it is for I am a rap God, from beyond the moon | |
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Anx said: jerseykrs said: 
 why are you clocking the man plaster, jers?
It's a classic.  | |
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Anx said: jerseykrs said:
why are you clocking the man plaster, jers?  | |
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nope never succeeded. | |
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jerseykrs said: [Ignignokt] Yes it is for I am a rap God, from beyond the moon[/i]
 [Edited 12/10/06 18:35pm] | |
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jerseykrs said: Anx said: why are you clocking the man plaster, jers? you've got to admit, it's an even more suspicious activity than when tony m. was clocking the jizz. | |
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Anx said: this model i'm attempting to describe, i think has more to do with following generations of tradition than it does with trying to emulate fictional relationships passed on by the mass media.
Oh, sure - tradition plays a big role. Ironically, I think it's people trying to reconcile these pop culture notions of what "love" is (which are their own tradition, in a sense) with the "generations of tradition", that's making it harder and harder to sustain these traditions. If that makes any sense. | |
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Seems like almost no one in this thread has been able to do it. I'm not alone! 
...but now I've gone back to not wanting to fall out of love, or whatever the hell it is that I'm in.  | |
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Ace said: Anx said: this model i'm attempting to describe, i think has more to do with following generations of tradition than it does with trying to emulate fictional relationships passed on by the mass media.
Oh, sure - tradition plays a big role. Ironically, I think it's people trying to reconcile these pop culture notions of what "love" is (which are their own tradition, in a sense) with the "generations of tradition", that's making it harder and harder to sustain these traditions. If that makes any sense. it makes total sense. on the one hand, 'traditional' marriages don't delve too deep into the inner desires of the couple, choosing instead to focus on the house and the raising of the family. the pop culture notion favors an airbrushed idealization including perfect appearance, perfect sex, perfect gestures of affection, blah blah blah. when someone's trying to start a traditional marriage with a headful of pop culture notions, fuses blow because the simplicity is conflated by the whole julia roberts movie bullshit dictating what "real love" is supposed to be. yeah. it's a mess. | |
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Anx said: Spats said: Marriage is not needed to build a family and that is not what we are supposed to do. Can if ya want. I'm not necessarily talking about in SpatsWorld. I'm talking more in traditional, salt of the earth, conservative-whatever family life. Which, I know, is less and less the norm, but most all of us come from that kind of family, even if it was a few generations back. Yeah, but that's outdated. | |
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Anx said: Ace said: Oh, sure - tradition plays a big role. Ironically, I think it's people trying to reconcile these pop culture notions of what "love" is (which are their own tradition, in a sense) with the "generations of tradition", that's making it harder and harder to sustain these traditions. If that makes any sense. it makes total sense. on the one hand, 'traditional' marriages don't delve too deep into the inner desires of the couple, choosing instead to focus on the house and the raising of the family. the pop culture notion favors an airbrushed idealization including perfect appearance, perfect sex, perfect gestures of affection, blah blah blah. when someone's trying to start a traditional marriage with a headful of pop culture notions, fuses blow because the simplicity is conflated by the whole julia roberts movie bullshit dictating what "real love" is supposed to be. yeah. it's a mess. | |
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evenstar3 said: jerseykrs said: i tried quoting the wisdom of the mooninites at him, but it was lost on him Nerd talk. | |
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Spats said: evenstar3 said: i tried quoting the wisdom of the mooninites at him, but it was lost on him Nerd talk. i love "nerdy" guys. tons. so do lots of other women. so  | |
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evenstar3 said: Spats said: Nerd talk. i love "nerdy" guys. tons. so do lots of other women. so You are in the minority. | |
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Stymie said: Spats said: It's true. Most women are like that. I think if i said all women were like that it would be generalizing. But most women want to be pursued and proposed to, etc,etc. | |
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luv4u said: Spats said: Yeah , but look who they are procresting with. They are settling.. Aside from the minority of hot women that live in this city, they are either plain janes or ugos. Toronto does not have a lot of hot women. And most of the hot women here are usually taken. All that's left are the rest that you don't want.Guess you will have to resort to this  Whatever. But's not my fault. There is just not much to work with up here. | |
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Ace said: Spats said: It's true. Most women are like that. Hey, there's a lotta men who are looking for the fairytale, too. They may not express it in the same way, but there just as many male victims. True. There are millions that give in to the female fantasy too. | |
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Spats said: evenstar3 said: i love "nerdy" guys. tons. so do lots of other women. so You are in the minority. and what's wrong with that? | |
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ZombieKitten said: Spats said: I didn't have to. I never meet any women that i could ever see myself loving.
 Thanks. It sucks. It's so depressing when i have gone out with buddies to meet women and you see what there is to pick from. Whether it be their looks, or the game playing, etc, etc. And as much as like the babe, look how difficult that has been. So even when you find someone that turns you on and you like up here, things are still not easy. | |
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evenstar3 said: Spats said: You are in the minority. and what's wrong with that? Just sayin that "lots of women" do not love nerd guys. [Edited 12/10/06 19:11pm] | |
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Spats said: evenstar3 said: and what's wrong with that? Just sayin that "lots of women" do not love nerd guys. [Edited 12/10/06 19:11pm] meh, whatever, more for me  | |
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if someone started a 'who loves nerdy men?' thread, i bet spats would be surprised. | |
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Spats said: evenstar3 said: and what's wrong with that? Just sayin that "lots of women" do not love nerd guys. [Edited 12/10/06 19:11pm] The hot ones, we do. And yes, nerds can be very physically good looking too. A nerd is not so much about their looks, like in the movies.
It's the "geeky" things they are into. | |
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JustErin said: The hot ones, we do.
And yes, nerds can be very physically good looking too. A nerd is not so much about their looks, like in the movies.
It's the "geeky" things they are into. yup!  but of course in the land of Spats, the idea that a man can be attractive and have geeky interests doesn't exist. | |
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littlemissG said: If you have to tell youself not to, its too late.
pretty much | |
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Spats said: Stymie said: Bullshit. Do you EVER stop generalising?
I think if i said all women were like that it would be generalizing. But most women want to be pursued and proposed to, etc,etc. I for one want a house husband.
I want to pursue a man and have him stay home, raise the kids, cook, clean and iron. | |
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Spats said: luv4u said: Guess you will have to resort to this Whatever. But's not my fault. There is just not much to work with up here. http://www.elmerolsenmode...ale&page=1
The only cities with bigger populations in North America are New York, L.A. and Chicago. | |
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