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Thread started 11/30/06 6:02am

psychodelicide

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Do You Enjoy Working For Someone Else?

Or would you rather be your own boss where you could set your own rules, work whatever hours you wished, etc. etc. I know that both have their good points and bad points, but which would you prefer?
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Reply #1 posted 11/30/06 6:05am

Anx

it's kinda like renting vs. owning.

when you rent, you have to answer to someone else, but if your roof caves in, someone else pays to fix it.

when you work for someone else, you sacrifice autonomy, but you can get decent medical coverage. shrug
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Reply #2 posted 11/30/06 6:07am

CarrieMpls

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Anx said:

it's kinda like renting vs. owning.

when you rent, you have to answer to someone else, but if your roof caves in, someone else pays to fix it.

when you work for someone else, you sacrifice autonomy, but you can get decent medical coverage. shrug


exactly.

I think I'd love to run my own business, but I think I need the structure of working for someone else. I'm probably not disciplined enough myself to ever really do it for myself.
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Reply #3 posted 11/30/06 6:09am

santadomino

lol I rather have a small
investment that pays
me, instead of answer-
ing Sir to muthafuckers
who will like to use u!
I rather be a dead
tan a poor G! mad
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Reply #4 posted 11/30/06 6:10am

Number23

I lack dicipline. I need a fascist bastard tapping his scuffed, dusty shoes on this shitty worn carpet waiting for my arse to touch this broken, ketchup stained chair everyday at 9am. I'd just sleep the rest of my life away if their were no hierarcy above me. Maybe that's what God's doing.
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Reply #5 posted 11/30/06 6:11am

Anx

CarrieMpls said:

Anx said:

it's kinda like renting vs. owning.

when you rent, you have to answer to someone else, but if your roof caves in, someone else pays to fix it.

when you work for someone else, you sacrifice autonomy, but you can get decent medical coverage. shrug


exactly.

I think I'd love to run my own business, but I think I need the structure of working for someone else. I'm probably not disciplined enough myself to ever really do it for myself.


i'm kinda the same way, kinda not.

i need deadlines and standards and protocols - things like that - but as far as my work ethic, i am totally comfortable with the fact that i work best at the last minute, buzzing on a pot of coffee in the middle of the night and blasting kooky music on my stereo. i wouldn't mind working for someone else if i were able to work my way.
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Reply #6 posted 11/30/06 6:11am

Number23

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I lack dicipline. I need a fascist bastard tapping his scuffed, dusty shoes on this shitty worn carpet waiting for my arse to touch this broken, ketchup stained chair everyday at 9am. I'd just sleep the rest of my life away if their were no hierarcy above me. Maybe that's what God's doing.

My spelling and grammatical errors on a first take are getting outrageous. sad
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Reply #7 posted 11/30/06 6:12am

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Anx said:

it's kinda like renting vs. owning.

when you rent, you have to answer to someone else, but if your roof caves in, someone else pays to fix it.

when you work for someone else, you sacrifice autonomy, but you can get decent medical coverage. shrug


Nice analogy!

I kind of have the best of both, I am pretty autonomous in the structure of my day, what I decide to do and time I arrive and leave but I do, strictly speaking, also have a boss.
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Reply #8 posted 11/30/06 6:15am

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Same here. I would love to be self employed, but I'm worried I'm not disciplined enough to stay on top of everything.

I do a lot of freelance work in the evenings, building small websites for people referred to me through word of mouth. But I have a really bad habit of procrastinating. Not sure if it's because I'm already tired from coming home from work, or if I'm just scatterbrained.

In some ways, I like working for someone, because there are definitely some aspects of running a business that I don't like doing, such as sales, cold-calling, presentations, accounting, etc...
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Reply #9 posted 11/30/06 6:15am

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i've been successfully self employed since 1989. and i would really have a hard time if i had to get a real job!! razz (meanning if i had to answer to someone other than myself)
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Reply #10 posted 11/30/06 6:16am

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Anx said:

it's kinda like renting vs. owning.

when you rent, you have to answer to someone else, but if your roof caves in, someone else pays to fix it.

when you work for someone else, you sacrifice autonomy, but you can get decent medical coverage. shrug


You know, I wonder how different it is in other countries where healthcare is just a given... hmmm

god I hate that about america. pout
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Reply #11 posted 11/30/06 6:19am

Anx

CarrieMpls said:

Anx said:

it's kinda like renting vs. owning.

when you rent, you have to answer to someone else, but if your roof caves in, someone else pays to fix it.

when you work for someone else, you sacrifice autonomy, but you can get decent medical coverage. shrug


You know, I wonder how different it is in other countries where healthcare is just a given... hmmm

god I hate that about america. pout


i was raised to believe if you don't have healthcare coverage, you might as well jump off a cliff...so you should always have a job unless you become filthy rich somehow. if healthcare were a given for me, i'd kiss this 9 to 5 shit goodbye.
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Reply #12 posted 11/30/06 6:23am

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Anx said:

CarrieMpls said:



You know, I wonder how different it is in other countries where healthcare is just a given... hmmm

god I hate that about america. pout


i was raised to believe if you don't have healthcare coverage, you might as well jump off a cliff...so you should always have a job unless you become filthy rich somehow. if healthcare were a given for me, i'd kiss this 9 to 5 shit goodbye.


This is such a psychological bind to an employer. In some ways I always felt that this was contrary to the American dream of striving to go out there on your own and make a success. To fucking scary to be without cover.

I don’t know what the stats are between self-employed people in the US compared to other countries. It would be interesting to see if this was a determining factor.
Happy is he who finds out the causes for things.Virgil (70-19 BC). Virgil was such a lying bastard!
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Reply #13 posted 11/30/06 6:24am

Mach

psychodelicide said:

Or would you rather be your own boss where you could set your own rules, work whatever hours you wished, etc. etc. I know that both have their good points and bad points, but which would you prefer?


I have done both

I NEED to be my own boss nod
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Reply #14 posted 11/30/06 6:24am

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Anx said:

CarrieMpls said:



You know, I wonder how different it is in other countries where healthcare is just a given... hmmm

god I hate that about america. pout


i was raised to believe if you don't have healthcare coverage, you might as well jump off a cliff...so you should always have a job unless you become filthy rich somehow. if healthcare were a given for me, i'd kiss this 9 to 5 shit goodbye.


I think it would make a tremendous difference for me as well...
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Reply #15 posted 11/30/06 6:24am

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m'damn self.
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Reply #16 posted 11/30/06 6:25am

Anx

PREDOMINANT said:

Anx said:



i was raised to believe if you don't have healthcare coverage, you might as well jump off a cliff...so you should always have a job unless you become filthy rich somehow. if healthcare were a given for me, i'd kiss this 9 to 5 shit goodbye.


This is such a psychological bind to an employer. In some ways I always felt that this was contrary to the American dream of striving to go out there on your own and make a success. To fucking scary to be without cover.

I don’t know what the stats are between self-employed people in the US compared to other countries. It would be interesting to see if this was a determining factor.


to be honest, if i didn't feel like my mother would have a coronary if i just struck out on my own, i probably wouldn't give nearly as much of a shit about the medical thing.
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Reply #17 posted 11/30/06 6:26am

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Anx said:

PREDOMINANT said:



This is such a psychological bind to an employer. In some ways I always felt that this was contrary to the American dream of striving to go out there on your own and make a success. To fucking scary to be without cover.

I don’t know what the stats are between self-employed people in the US compared to other countries. It would be interesting to see if this was a determining factor.


to be honest, if i didn't feel like my mother would have a coronary if i just struck out on my own, i probably wouldn't give nearly as much of a shit about the medical thing.


That'd be ok as long as SHE had cover lol
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Reply #18 posted 11/30/06 6:27am

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PREDOMINANT said:

Anx said:



i was raised to believe if you don't have healthcare coverage, you might as well jump off a cliff...so you should always have a job unless you become filthy rich somehow. if healthcare were a given for me, i'd kiss this 9 to 5 shit goodbye.


This is such a psychological bind to an employer. In some ways I always felt that this was contrary to the American dream of striving to go out there on your own and make a success. To fucking scary to be without cover.

I don’t know what the stats are between self-employed people in the US compared to other countries. It would be interesting to see if this was a determining factor.


I agree, whole heartedly.

It would be interesting... Although, I'm sure there are so many factors, it would be hard to pinpoint, but I would think it has some effect.
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Reply #19 posted 11/30/06 6:38am

purplerein

having worked for my pops, and now myself..and looking at the prospect or working for someone else, i find this topic near and dear to my heart.
ive never really known working for someone else, yet in either 4, or 8 weeks, i'll probably learn about it
i had a great interview yesterday, and if we can meet on $$, i might take the position..but, the job comes with alot of pressure, and more hours at work than i and the family is used to. How will i feel if i fall behind on the imposed deadlines and get a bad 6 month review?...i don't know. How will i feel when someone 15 years younger than I tells me to do something?...i don't know.
of course, i'd get better medical bennies, a pension, vacation without worrying about what i've left behind, and more $$....
working for myself is good, because i answer only to myself, and i can do things my way, including clients to take their business elsewhere. yesterday during the interview i was told we don't do that...to try "look, i know you're upset, lets try to find a solution together" :gag:
i'm excited and nervous.
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Reply #20 posted 11/30/06 6:40am

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purplerein said:

How will i feel when someone 15 years younger than I tells me to do something?...i don't know.


are you really worried that would bother you? I don't get that...
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Reply #21 posted 11/30/06 6:43am

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Number23 said:

I lack dicipline. I need a fascist bastard tapping his scuffed, dusty shoes on this shitty worn carpet waiting for my arse to touch this broken, ketchup stained chair everyday at 9am. I'd just sleep the rest of my life away if their were no hierarcy above me. Maybe that's what God's doing.


Without question. Stupid no discipline. Im discovering this as well.
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