ButterscotchPimp said:

Since you don't know me (at least, I assume you don't), I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that there's a lot you don't know about me. I am living a much, much healthier life than I was a year ago at this time, and undoubtedly tremendously healthier than the entirety of my 20's. I would say I was thinnest during my most unhealthy years (think drugs). And in my path to be healthier, some weight has dropped off. But then it stopped.
Food is not making me unhealthy. And its one of my favorite hobbies. The pleasure I get out the few treats I consume is worth it to me. I'm a firm believer in everything in moderation. And if that means I'll be carrying excess baggage forever, so be it.
I don't expect you to agree.

INSATIABLE said:

I love the org. . .

CarrieMpls said:

Yeah, ALL they are getting from us is "blah blah blah fat chick justifying her disgusting lack of self-control blah blah if only she would stop lying to herself and come to understand the Ultimate Truth about herself and everybody else via my experience of the world which is certainly more correct than hers blah blah blah".

Fuck them.

Respectfully.

CarrieMpls said:

you kick ass.

when i was at my thinnest, i was surviving on ramen noodles and oatmeal. there's nothing healthy about that. some people are bigger but healthier than your average person. some people are very thin but are horribly unhealthy.

People just need to be healthy.

If you love yourself and are not looking for validation elsewhere, I think you'll find that you'll be less concerned with conforming to society's beauty ideals.

...Oh - and get some stretchy sweatpants.

IrresistibleB1tch said:

I'm not judgemental! Bitch!

HereToRockYourWorld said:

not you, silly woman! (<- plastic fish, of course!)

IrresistibleB1tch said:

Do you know how many kids in Iraq had to die for that plastic?

HereToRockYourWorld said:

Okay.
First of all, correct me if i'm wrong but i've YET to refer to anyone as "fat".

Secondly, i've pointed out twice (and i'm happy to do so again) that this isn't a discussion on what Hollywood or the media perpetuates to be the "ideal" weight (at least from what i'm attempting to discuss here).

I'm simply referring to the mindset that has led the United States to become the fattest, unhealthiest nation in the entire world.

Of course there are different body types and everyone isn't designed to be a contestant on "America's Next Top Model". Nor should they be.

And i'm not vegan because i'm a card carrying member of PETA that thinks that killing animals is wrong and people that wear fur should die or anything. I lost weight because i want to live as long as possible.

Let me put it another way. You find out at the end of your life that by simply altering your eating habits, that you could have lived another 10 years. So you look your grandchildren in the eye and say "i'm sorry, guys. i could've been with you another 10 years, but i liked french fries and chocolate too much."

It's FOOD. There are TONS of foods out there that taste great and are healthy for you. It's not NEARLY as hard to eat healthy today as it was some 12 or so years ago when i first became vegetarian. And i'm not saying that you necessarily have to be vegetarian or vegan to eat much much healthier (but it does certainly help).

I'm not name calling, or personally trying to attack anyone in here. Just participating in a discussion that i find interesting and relevant (and in here, for me that's a rarety).

HereToRockYourWorld said:

want me to kick my dog on your behalf?

ButterscotchPimp said:

"Fat" is not a dirty word. I am fat.

And vegan. And healthy.

And if you've missed the previous six gazillion threads on this topic, my comments are probably not making a lot of sense to you.

Nonetheless, you are making a whole lot of assumptions. And will probably continue to do so. And you are in plentiful company. Enjoy.

IrresistibleB1tch said:

No. I like dogs. Could you kick a human on my behalf?

HereToRockYourWorld said:

sure - any particular requests?

IrresistibleB1tch said:

I don't think anybody in your immediate vicinity is somebody I know and love, so just pick at random. If they get upset, tell them that sometimes you have to take one for the team.

IrresistibleB1tch said:

HereToRockYourWorld said:

sounds like fun!

Mach said:

MACH!!!!

scorpio must be in retrograde or something, with three of the kindest orgers wanting to go and hurt somebody!

IrresistibleB1tch said:

I dunno but I am embracing the DARKSIDED aspects of me as of late

feed them love and they will calm

right ?

Mach said:

right. i think.

Mach said:

HereToRockYourWorld said:

fat is where the flavors at

I think people should be however makes them happy, but as you are a champion of the anti-smoking cause, I must point out that food can be even more dangerous than smoking.

but in the end, life is fleeting no matter how we live, and I really believe we should do what makes us happy--as long as it's true happiness!

Mach said:

I wanna embrace being fat AND pissy!

SpisaRibb said:

I will orally pleasure the first orger who gets that put on a tshirt for me. XXL, please.

applekisses said:

As long as you're thick in the right places, don't worry about it.

ButterscotchPimp said:

But see, by saying all this, you are simply demonstrating exactly what HereToRockYourWorld said above.
fat does not equal unhealthy. nor does thin equal healthy. that's all we're saying here.

Would you like me to run you through a typical day of my diet? OK, here goes:

breakfast:
1/2 cup low fat, low sugar granola
1/2 cup low fat low sugar yogurt
1 medium banana
tea with skim milk and 2 tsp sugar

lunch:
salad of mixed greens, onion, red pepper, carrots, cucumber and sprinkle of cheese
low fat dressing

afternoon snack:
apple

dinner:
1 veggie chick patty
1 serving pasta
1 cup yummy spaghetti sauce
(about 500 calories)

dessert/evening snack:
fruit, occasional serving of ice cream

Now, once in a while I indulge in a big breakfast on weekends. Or a fancy cupcake from the bakery. And I work out at least twice a week.

You know, I have incredibly pale skin. And I could get tan if I wanted to. I did it one summer when I was young. But in order to do that, I would need to start out spending 5 minutes a day for a week in a tanning bed, then gradually increase by 5 mintues a day each week till I was spending about 30 minutes a day and in about 2 months I'd have a bit of color. I don't want to do that. I don't have the time nor inclination. It's the same thing here. I have simply decided that I don't want to spend 2 hours a day at the gym and give up the foods I love altogether.

And you can tell me that means I'm not healthy. But I can't agree.


And as for the end of my life bit? I'm also a firm believer in quality over quantity. If I died tomorrow, there are very, very few things in this life I'd regret and I would die knowing I lived my life to the fullest, rarely if ever passing up an opportunity for fun or fulfillment. If my grandchildren wouldn't get that, I haven't taught them well enough.

uPtoWnNY said:

being 'thick' isn't the same as being morbidly obese.

I've decided to embrace my perfectism.

I've been trying to down play it for years, and I've finally decided it's time to just let it be and come to terms with how wonderful I really am.

luv4all7 said:

and I say fuck em if they don't like it!