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Thread started 08/28/02 12:46pm

AbucahX

EBONICALLY SPEAKING....

My uncle, who I love so much, speaks the so call "ebonics" language. My uncle is a very smart and wealthy man, and very well educated, having many College degrees. When the Ebonics issue came up in the news a couple of years ago, he heard these so called experts state that a person that speaks ebonics will have a slim chance of getting hired during a job interview. My Uncle told me that he made it through life speaking "ebonics" and he ain't about to change his grammar for nobody because he can't talk any other way. What makes me so mad is when I hear other black people speaking "ebonics" when they know they don't talk that way. My uncle grew up in the Jim Crow era in the South and was denied proper schooling. He once told me "It's funny how white people want you to talk their way after being denied schooling to talk in the first place." I know that statement might sound racist to some people but there is a lot of truth to it. My Uncle experienced a lot of racism in his lifetime and he never complained about it. He never let that set him back. He never asked for anything. He's a self made ebonically speaking millionaire. His ebonics didn't hold him back from getting any jobs. It's ironic that he has a degree in English. Do you guys think that speaking ebonics will prevent a person from getting a decent job?
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Reply #1 posted 08/28/02 4:06pm

Essence

Would it affect getting a job? Sometimes of course.

Should it? Not really, but such are the constrictions and expectations of society.
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Reply #2 posted 08/28/02 4:13pm

ian

Essence said:

Would it affect getting a job? Sometimes of course.

Should it? Not really, but such are the constrictions and expectations of society.


Well, if your job requires speaking to customers or dealing with the public or working over the phone etc, it makes sense to choose someone who can pronounce things clearly and intelligibly. Even just working with people of different backgrounds requires clear communication skills. Speaking in "ebonics" would only be useful if everyone you work with speaks the same way and understands it.

I used to have a very strong "rough" Dublin accent because the areas I grew up in. But I found that once I was in college, talking to people from all over the world, and later working all over the planet with people of all nationalities, my accent naturally became more "generic" and my language more like "correct English" so as to make myself understood.
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Reply #3 posted 08/28/02 4:24pm

Essence

ian said:

Essence said:

Would it affect getting a job? Sometimes of course.

Should it? Not really, but such are the constrictions and expectations of society.


Well, if your job requires speaking to customers or dealing with the public or working over the phone etc, it makes sense to choose someone who can pronounce things clearly and intelligibly. Even just working with people of different backgrounds requires clear communication skills. Speaking in "ebonics" would only be useful if everyone you work with speaks the same way and understands it.

I used to have a very strong "rough" Dublin accent because the areas I grew up in. But I found that once I was in college, talking to people from all over the world, and later working all over the planet with people of all nationalities, my accent naturally became more "generic" and my language more like "correct English" so as to make myself understood.


Exactly, horses for courses. It would just be nice if people were more tolerant and could adjust to differences. "Correct English" taken to extremes can become equally as puzzling with the upper classes not forming the basis of most workplaces.
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Reply #4 posted 08/28/02 4:27pm

00769BAD

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yo yo PEEP DIS,
i can barely speak ebonics, or english, BUT!!!
i figure if what you speak is EBONICS, then you really aint needin the employ of NOBODY but yo'self...
after all your language is of the STREETS,
and the streets is where your money is...
BUT, If you're sayin that the school system is allowing
people to leave school knowing NOTHING ELSE,
then that is an unfortunate situation...
but not one that i would be suprised to hear of.
I AM King BAD a.k.a. BAD,
YOU EITHER WANNA BE ME, OR BE JUST LIKE ME

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Reply #5 posted 08/28/02 5:18pm

Janeau

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Depends on the job
free ur mind
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Reply #6 posted 08/28/02 10:35pm

mistermaxxx

AbucahX said:

My uncle, who I love so much, speaks the so call "ebonics" language. My uncle is a very smart and wealthy man, and very well educated, having many College degrees. When the Ebonics issue came up in the news a couple of years ago, he heard these so called experts state that a person that speaks ebonics will have a slim chance of getting hired during a job interview. My Uncle told me that he made it through life speaking "ebonics" and he ain't about to change his grammar for nobody because he can't talk any other way. What makes me so mad is when I hear other black people speaking "ebonics" when they know they don't talk that way. My uncle grew up in the Jim Crow era in the South and was denied proper schooling. He once told me "It's funny how white people want you to talk their way after being denied schooling to talk in the first place." I know that statement might sound racist to some people but there is a lot of truth to it. My Uncle experienced a lot of racism in his lifetime and he never complained about it. He never let that set him back. He never asked for anything. He's a self made ebonically speaking millionaire. His ebonics didn't hold him back from getting any jobs. It's ironic that he has a degree in English. Do you guys think that speaking ebonics will prevent a person from getting a decent job?
not in the Music Business.I think Ebonics is Cool Period.nobody says nothing when a Cat comes over here plays Ball&has a Translater? I Mean that is Pimping.your Uncle gets Much Props from Me.like Miles Davis Said: we are Actors to the Game.a different Script is flipped for Business&for Personal.
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