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We could question reality, but I've already done that. Instead I pose you this: Does artificial intelligence fear death? | |
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if it's artificial, than fear wouldn't be possible, now would it? | |
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jerseykrs said: if it's artificial, than fear wouldn't be possible, now would it?
How do we tell the difference between what we see and what is real? If we see a robot that looks human (like in A.I) afraid, do we not understand that it is afraid and act accordingly? Yet we know that the robot only does that because some human has told it to perform that command in that situation. However, just because he's performing it, does it mean he doesn't genuinely feel that emotion? Is he sentient? | |
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CarrieMpls said: no
Party poop. | |
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i don't think humans will ever create something that genuinely can. | |
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Only if it's programmed to. | |
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Are you planning on killing some robots? There's a Bumhole in my Heart. | |
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Spookymuffin said: jerseykrs said: if it's artificial, than fear wouldn't be possible, now would it?
How do we tell the difference between what we see and what is real? If we see a robot that looks human (like in A.I) afraid, do we not understand that it is afraid and act accordingly? Yet we know that the robot only does that because some human has told it to perform that command in that situation. However, just because he's performing it, does it mean he doesn't genuinely feel that emotion? Is he sentient? what we see is our personal reality. How do you know what you see as a building, is actually not a cow shape to me..?...that the color you know as blue, isn't brown to me.. | |
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Is there any place of refuge one can flee from this insanity | |
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purplerein said: what we see is our personal reality. How do you know what you see as a building, is actually not a cow shape to me
Because I can't milk a building. There's a Bumhole in my Heart. | |
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evenstar3 said: i don't think humans will ever create something that genuinely can.
Scientists in cambridge have created a robot that dreams independently. It generates them. | |
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purplerein said: Spookymuffin said: How do we tell the difference between what we see and what is real? If we see a robot that looks human (like in A.I) afraid, do we not understand that it is afraid and act accordingly? Yet we know that the robot only does that because some human has told it to perform that command in that situation. However, just because he's performing it, does it mean he doesn't genuinely feel that emotion? Is he sentient? what we see is our personal reality. How do you know what you see as a building, is actually not a cow shape to me..?...that the color you know as blue, isn't brown to me.. And so we dig deeper. Perception is indeed relative. | |
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Spookymuffin said: jerseykrs said: if it's artificial, than fear wouldn't be possible, now would it?
How do we tell the difference between what we see and what is real? If we see a robot that looks human (like in A.I) afraid, do we not understand that it is afraid and act accordingly? Yet we know that the robot only does that because some human has told it to perform that command in that situation. However, just because he's performing it, does it mean he doesn't genuinely feel that emotion? Is he sentient? By this definition, yes: having the power of perception by the senses; conscious http://dictionary.referen...e/sentient However, "peforming" an emotion and genuinely "feeling" it are two completely different things. Humans do this all the time. | |
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Bumhole said: Are you planning on killing some robots?
And if I am? | |
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Spookymuffin said: purplerein said: what we see is our personal reality. How do you know what you see as a building, is actually not a cow shape to me..?...that the color you know as blue, isn't brown to me.. And so we dig deeper. Perception is indeed relative. the fact of the matter is, I still question if something exists outside of my perception. what do you think? of course someone could call me, and then they'd exist..but does the rest of the physical world exist, even though i can't see it?.. | |
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Spookymuffin said: evenstar3 said: i don't think humans will ever create something that genuinely can.
Scientists in cambridge have created a robot that dreams independently. It generates them. can't it only create them along the lines of what the scientists have programmed it to? and what do they consider a robot dream, anyway? | |
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Spookymuffin said: Bumhole said: Are you planning on killing some robots?
And if I am? Make 'em squeal like tiny hamsters being squished. There's a Bumhole in my Heart. | |
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Bumhole said: purplerein said: what we see is our personal reality. How do you know what you see as a building, is actually not a cow shape to me
Because I can't milk a building. | |
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applekisses said: Spookymuffin said: How do we tell the difference between what we see and what is real? If we see a robot that looks human (like in A.I) afraid, do we not understand that it is afraid and act accordingly? Yet we know that the robot only does that because some human has told it to perform that command in that situation. However, just because he's performing it, does it mean he doesn't genuinely feel that emotion? Is he sentient? By this definition, yes: having the power of perception by the senses; conscious http://dictionary.referen...e/sentient However, "peforming" an emotion and genuinely "feeling" it are two completely different things. Humans do this all the time. As we know, since we can fake emotions. | |
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evenstar3 said: Spookymuffin said: Scientists in cambridge have created a robot that dreams independently. It generates them. can't it only create them along the lines of what the scientists have programmed it to? and what do they consider a robot dream, anyway? It has 64 different options and it randomly combines elements from each to great a good few hundred thousand possible "dreams" that it starts to generate when the off button is pressed. However, it soon picked a favourite dream, and kept dreaming it. I wonder if it chose a wet dream? | |
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purplerein said: Spookymuffin said: And so we dig deeper. Perception is indeed relative. the fact of the matter is, I still question if something exists outside of my perception. what do you think? of course someone could call me, and then they'd exist..but does the rest of the physical world exist, even though i can't see it?.. You could have been put on this earth the very second you read this, with all the memories and feelings you have planted on you. You could die this second and be regenerated the second to come. Reality is weird, how do we ever know if anything anywhere anytime is real? | |
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Spookymuffin said: evenstar3 said: can't it only create them along the lines of what the scientists have programmed it to? and what do they consider a robot dream, anyway? It has 64 different options and it randomly combines elements from each to great a good few hundred thousand possible "dreams" that it starts to generate when the off button is pressed. However, it soon picked a favourite dream, and kept dreaming it. I wonder if it chose a wet dream? it's never going to dream outside those parameters, though. no matter how original the combination is that fact remains robot wet dreams? | |
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it's friday and this thread is making my stupid hurt. | |
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evenstar3 said: Spookymuffin said: It has 64 different options and it randomly combines elements from each to great a good few hundred thousand possible "dreams" that it starts to generate when the off button is pressed. However, it soon picked a favourite dream, and kept dreaming it. I wonder if it chose a wet dream? it's never going to dream outside those parameters, though. no matter how original the combination is that fact remains robot wet dreams? there's the floor. But what is it doing if it isn't dreaming? Oh, and robot wet dreams are cool. Loads of oil everywhere afterwards though. | |
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Spookymuffin said: jerseykrs said: if it's artificial, than fear wouldn't be possible, now would it?
How do we tell the difference between what we see and what is real? If we see a robot that looks human (like in A.I) afraid, do we not understand that it is afraid and act accordingly? Yet we know that the robot only does that because some human has told it to perform that command in that situation. However, just because he's performing it, does it mean he doesn't genuinely feel that emotion? Is he sentient? It depends if you think that consciousness can be created artificially or not. The robot is mimicking emotions but he's not "feeling" them. Also, AI involves learning, the way a child learns behaviour. It hasn't been programmed to feel sad, but has learned that a particular image should trigger sadness for instance. What if it "learns" to feel emotion? Then its a sentient being. | |
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Spookymuffin said: purplerein said: the fact of the matter is, I still question if something exists outside of my perception. what do you think? of course someone could call me, and then they'd exist..but does the rest of the physical world exist, even though i can't see it?.. You could have been put on this earth the very second you read this, with all the memories and feelings you have planted on you. You could die this second and be regenerated the second to come. Reality is weird, how do we ever know if anything anywhere anytime is real? no, i believe i have continuity with my reality. it's not like i'm constantly hitting my "refresh" button. if you and i look at the same painting, do we see the same thing? if i say it's of a butterfly..does my butterfly have the same shape as what you know as a butterfly? | |
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Spookymuffin said: evenstar3 said: it's never going to dream outside those parameters, though. no matter how original the combination is that fact remains robot wet dreams? there's the floor. But what is it doing if it isn't dreaming? Oh, and robot wet dreams are cool. Loads of oil everywhere afterwards though. just carrying out a program designed to simulate creativity? damn messy robots | |
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evenstar3 said: Spookymuffin said: It has 64 different options and it randomly combines elements from each to great a good few hundred thousand possible "dreams" that it starts to generate when the off button is pressed. However, it soon picked a favourite dream, and kept dreaming it. I wonder if it chose a wet dream? it's never going to dream outside those parameters, though. no matter how original the combination is that fact remains robot wet dreams? Mmm, but it's a question of degree. Yes, the possibilities have been programmed in the robot. But our experiences are finite too, and the neurons in our brain are finite (massive, but finite). It's theoretically possible to replicate that. Practically not gonna happen (at least in the short term - 64 different options isn't a great deal) but... There's a Bumhole in my Heart. | |
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purplerein said: Spookymuffin said: You could have been put on this earth the very second you read this, with all the memories and feelings you have planted on you. You could die this second and be regenerated the second to come. Reality is weird, how do we ever know if anything anywhere anytime is real? no, i believe i have continuity with my reality. it's not like i'm constantly hitting my "refresh" button. if you and i look at the same painting, do we see the same thing? if i say it's of a butterfly..does my butterfly have the same shape as what you know as a butterfly? I could be anal and say yes because we can describe things to one another and understand exactly. | |
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