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Reply #120 posted 11/18/06 3:34pm

NAnomaly

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NAnomaly said:




Nope, not true it can't be just about anyone because a lot of men and women believe that if they're a couple they're suppose to spend all or the majority of their time together and if they are apart even for a short period of time it’s a problem and some don't know what to do with themselves because everything is about or wrapped up in that person, a lot of people don't understand the concept of I need my own space, or I need something I can call my own period. I know people who are like that and/or are in relationships like that both men and women.


I've had problems like this before. Been in r.ships, been highly anxious about spending time apart. My reason, is that at some points in the past, I have had unworked out issues around intimate attachment with other people. Goes back to my childhood where i was abandoned by my parents (still lived with them, but was abandoned within the family house...long story...). I was choosing people to be involved with at the time who weren't right for me in hindsight, ones that would help repeat this pattern, this dynamic that i was used to. Over the years, I learnt that when in r.ships, i could depend on myself more and enjoy the relationship with me, spending time on my own as well as other people, so when involved in a relationship, i could rationalise that anxious feeling and not be overwhelmed by it.

Nowadays, i still subconsciously choose the wrong fucking people, but what provokes that feeling, is always a REAL pulling away from the other person, not an anticipation of them pulling away. I have a lot to offer relationships and I want intimate ones of a boyfriend and friend variety. I feel that what i can offer is healthy and mature, but i am still choosing people where i was a few years back.

Next step is to learn to choose the right people who want what i want. Isn't that what it comes down to anyways? It's no good wanting a deep and meaningful as well as fun relationship with someone who only wants the fun bit - and neither party are wrong for what they want - it's just they want different things.


You're absolutly right, very well said... hug
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Reply #121 posted 11/18/06 3:36pm

JustErin

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heartbeatocean said:

JustErin said:



I'm glad you got out of an abusive relationship but I strongly agree with the bolded statement.


I think you mean disagree, right?


Oops.

Yes, disagree.
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Reply #122 posted 11/18/06 5:44pm

heartbeatocean

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Ace said:


Maybe I'd go for a Sartre/de Beauvoir sitch, but I seriously doubt anything else.


I've always had those two in mind as a possible ideal as well.
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Reply #123 posted 11/18/06 6:49pm

uPtoWnNY

PricelessHo said:

I don't know if my view will ever change but lately i've been seriously considering getting by on my own.

Everytime i think of scrapping the idea something happens that pushes me not to.

Anyone? And why (if you don't mind of course)



I knew since my mid-20s that I wanted to be single4life. Twenty years later and I have no regrets. I have no aggravation, no one else's bills to worry about, I get up when I want, and do whatever the f--- I wannna do. The only person I have to support is me. If I get in a jam, my family has my back. It's a great life. I don't get folks who want to get married because they're afraid of being alone when they're old. That's a poor reason, IMO.

I always make sure to tell women I date not to look at me as a potential husband and father. We can have a nice, long relationship, but marriage/living together is out of the question. Some are cool with that, some aren't.

To the ladies, stop worrying about what society/family/friends think about your lifestyle. Bottom line, DO WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY. If people give you grief, tell them to f--- off and worry about their own useless lives.
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Reply #124 posted 11/18/06 6:51pm

Stymie

uPtoWnNY said:

PricelessHo said:

I don't know if my view will ever change but lately i've been seriously considering getting by on my own.

Everytime i think of scrapping the idea something happens that pushes me not to.

Anyone? And why (if you don't mind of course)



I knew since my mid-20s that I wanted to be single4life. Twenty years later and I have no regrets. I have no aggravation, no one else's bills to worry about, I get up when I want, and do whatever the f--- I wannna do. The only person I have to support is me. If I get in a jam, my family has my back. It's a great life. I don't get folks who want to get married because they're afraid of being alone when they're old. That's a poor reason, IMO.

I always make sure to tell women I date not to look at me as a potential husband and father. We can have a nice, long relationship, but marriage/living together is out of the question. Some are cool with that, some aren't.

To the ladies, stop worrying about what society/family/friends think about your lifestyle. Bottom line, DO WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY. If people give you grief, tell them to f--- off and worry about their own useless lives.
worship clapping I applaud your honesty and candor.
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Reply #125 posted 11/18/06 6:56pm

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nod hmph!
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Reply #126 posted 11/18/06 7:02pm

cutn

Im pushin forty and still single, its not something I waste time worrying about, I know Im not a bad looking guy, so if something happens, cool, if not I just have to continue to do my thing alone.
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Reply #127 posted 11/18/06 7:07pm

uPtoWnNY

Stymie said:

worship clapping I applaud your honesty and candor.



I've seen too many people mess up their lives trying to live for someone else, or to achieve the "American Dream"(marriage, kids, house in the 'burbs). Unfortunately, they wind up marrying the wrong person and it's downhill from there. I've had cousins who were married and divorced within two years, and I knew it was going to happen.

People need to look in the mirror and do some deep soul-searching before they make that move. Forget that Hollywood sh!t, marriage is no joke. Can you stay committed to one person, 24-7, for the rest of your life, AND raise kids? That's a lot of hard work - I knew I couldn't do it.
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Reply #128 posted 11/18/06 7:41pm

brownsugar

uPtoWnNY said:

Stymie said:

worship clapping I applaud your honesty and candor.



I've seen too many people mess up their lives trying to live for someone else, or to achieve the "American Dream"(marriage, kids, house in the 'burbs). Unfortunately, they wind up marrying the wrong person and it's downhill from there. I've had cousins who were married and divorced within two years, and I knew it was going to happen.

People need to look in the mirror and do some deep soul-searching before they make that move. Forget that Hollywood sh!t, marriage is no joke. Can you stay committed to one person, 24-7, for the rest of your life, AND raise kids? That's a lot of hard work - I knew I couldn't do it.


and thats the problem, people don't think, its a really serious matter
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Reply #129 posted 11/18/06 8:38pm

bucketofbouncy
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PricelessHo said:

I don't know if my view will ever change but lately i've been seriously considering getting by on my own.

Everytime i think of scrapping the idea something happens that pushes me not to.

Anyone? And why (if you don't mind of course)



I feel the same.
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Reply #130 posted 11/18/06 9:26pm

NAnomaly

uPtoWnNY said:

PricelessHo said:

I don't know if my view will ever change but lately i've been seriously considering getting by on my own.

Everytime i think of scrapping the idea something happens that pushes me not to.

Anyone? And why (if you don't mind of course)



I knew since my mid-20s that I wanted to be single4life. Twenty years later and I have no regrets. I have no aggravation, no one else's bills to worry about, I get up when I want, and do whatever the f--- I wannna do. The only person I have to support is me. If I get in a jam, my family has my back. It's a great life. I don't get folks who want to get married because they're afraid of being alone when they're old. That's a poor reason, IMO.

I always make sure to tell women I date not to look at me as a potential husband and father. We can have a nice, long relationship, but marriage/living together is out of the question. Some are cool with that, some aren't.

To the ladies, stop worrying about what society/family/friends think about your lifestyle. Bottom line, DO WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY. If people give you grief, tell them to f--- off and worry about their own useless lives.



I have an Angel that says that all the time.angel clapping
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Reply #131 posted 11/18/06 10:58pm

Fauxie

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after being in an abusive marriage most of my life, I've decided I can do better on my own. There are times when I wish I had a good man to help me when something needs to be handled. or a good man to be intimate with and cherish me. but finding a man with a good heart, who would never betray or hit you is slim to none. If he's compassionate and can relate to you, and handsome too, he's gay. The abusive guy I was stuck with made my life a living hell. I'll have those scars for the rest of my life. And I just don't want to risk that mistake again. I remember a very wise statement someone made. They said:

anytime you feel the need to be criticized and put down--get married.


confused
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Reply #132 posted 11/19/06 5:19am

uPtoWnNY

Society has done a number on women's heads. People think I have a cool & hip lifestyle. If I was a woman, they'd feel sorry for me and give me the "your biological clock is running out" sh!t. Talk about a double-standard.

I know successful women with so much going on in their lives hook up with losers just so they won't be alone. I'm like, "WTF are y'all doing?!?!" One of my dearest friends did that - she even moved the dude into HER house, had a kid with him, and eventually married him. I hope she got a prenup, because I don't trust that cat.

People have to wake the f--- up, and start living for themselves. If it doesn't feel right, don't do it.
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Reply #133 posted 11/19/06 5:39am

Shanti1

I am not one that likes to live my life alone eventhough I am an only child. I admit I did get married too young and did not really understand what it meant to be married when I did it the first time. Recent situations have forced me to seriously think about what I want and need for myself and not for someone else for the first time in my life. I spent so much time not wanting to do the typical married with children thing and I was never with someone that I wanted to be the father of my children. As I get older I am thinking differently about my life. I never felt like I deserved certain things in my life but I am starting to realize that I need to do what makes me happy and stop thinking I am not worthy. There is also the element of fear that has held me back- I used to take the easy road because I was afraid of the feelings I had deep inside. Time to let go of the fear and live life I suppose.
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Reply #134 posted 11/19/06 6:04am

uPtoWnNY

Shanti1 said:

As I get older I am thinking differently about my life. I never felt like I deserved certain things in my life but I am starting to realize that I need to do what makes me happy and stop thinking I am not worthy. There is also the element of fear that has held me back- I used to take the easy road because I was afraid of the feelings I had deep inside. Time to let go of the fear and live life I suppose.




nod clapping


That's what I'm talking about - JUST DO IT, BABY!!! You only live once, so treat yourself right. And if you have go it alone, so be it.
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Reply #135 posted 11/19/06 6:50am

CarrieMpls

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Shanti1 said:

As I get older I am thinking differently about my life. I never felt like I deserved certain things in my life but I am starting to realize that I need to do what makes me happy and stop thinking I am not worthy. There is also the element of fear that has held me back- I used to take the easy road because I was afraid of the feelings I had deep inside. Time to let go of the fear and live life I suppose.


Very interesting to me that you are saying these words when comtemplating being single, yet I would say the exact same thing, only I'm talking about finding a partner. smile

hug
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Reply #136 posted 11/19/06 7:41am

Boriqua1130

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uPtoWnNY said:

PricelessHo said:

I don't know if my view will ever change but lately i've been seriously considering getting by on my own.

Everytime i think of scrapping the idea something happens that pushes me not to.

Anyone? And why (if you don't mind of course)



I knew since my mid-20s that I wanted to be single4life. Twenty years later and I have no regrets. I have no aggravation, no one else's bills to worry about, I get up when I want, and do whatever the f--- I wannna do. The only person I have to support is me. If I get in a jam, my family has my back. It's a great life. I don't get folks who want to get married because they're afraid of being alone when they're old. That's a poor reason, IMO.

I always make sure to tell women I date not to look at me as a potential husband and father. We can have a nice, long relationship, but marriage/living together is out of the question. Some are cool with that, some aren't.
To the ladies, stop worrying about what society/family/friends think about your lifestyle. Bottom line, DO WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY. If people give you grief, tell them to f--- off and worry about their own useless lives.



You are a breath of fresh air, UptownNY. clapping
I can respect a man who knows what he wants and is clear about it. The woman is given your truth and she decides if she wants to deal with you or not.

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Reply #137 posted 11/19/06 7:49am

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Boriqua1130 said:

uPtoWnNY said:




I knew since my mid-20s that I wanted to be single4life. Twenty years later and I have no regrets. I have no aggravation, no one else's bills to worry about, I get up when I want, and do whatever the f--- I wannna do. The only person I have to support is me. If I get in a jam, my family has my back. It's a great life. I don't get folks who want to get married because they're afraid of being alone when they're old. That's a poor reason, IMO.

I always make sure to tell women I date not to look at me as a potential husband and father. We can have a nice, long relationship, but marriage/living together is out of the question. Some are cool with that, some aren't.
To the ladies, stop worrying about what society/family/friends think about your lifestyle. Bottom line, DO WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY. If people give you grief, tell them to f--- off and worry about their own useless lives.



You are a breath of fresh air, UptownNY. clapping
I can respect a man who knows what he wants and is clear about it. The woman is given your truth and she decides if she wants to deal with you or not.

@)-}-----}-----

I agree, there isn't anything more refreshing than a man knowing what he wants, AND making sure he makes that CLEAR from the BEGINNING. I have yet to meet a man who knows what he wants, they are all so damn confused, they don't know what the fuck they really want. They keep bouncing around giving mixed signals, then as a woman when you just flat out ask them, they don't fuckin' know. What the hell is that shit? Do you want to just date, do you want to be in a relationship, do you want a fuck buddy, do you just want to be friends??? That's when i stop calling and putting myself out there because that shit gets old, like i said before i maybe was just picking the wrong men, or keep giving my number to the wrong ones. From now on its just going to be about me, whatever happens, happens. Life is too short to be wasting my time on guys who are just fucking confusing.
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Reply #138 posted 11/19/06 8:10am

muirdo

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ach nothing
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Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!
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Reply #139 posted 11/19/06 8:21am

CarrieMpls

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muirdo said:

ach nothing
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I caught that. wink


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Reply #140 posted 11/19/06 8:25am

muirdo

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CarrieMpls said:

muirdo said:

ach nothing
confused
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I caught that. wink


hug



smile
Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!
woot!
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Reply #141 posted 11/19/06 8:47am

uPtoWnNY

Boriqua1130 said:

You are a breath of fresh air, UptownNY. clapping
I can respect a man who knows what he wants and is clear about it. The woman is given your truth and she decides if she wants to deal with you or not.

@)-}-----}-----



Thanks, but I'm not doing anything special - I'm just being honest with myself. I know my personality is not right for marriage. I'm stubborn, set in my ways, a bit selfish(especially with cash smile , a loner and I don't want kids. It would be unfair to the woman if I got married - both of us would be frustrated and miserable. If I were to have a touch of insanity and announce my engagement, my family and closest friends would talk me out of it, because they know me.

That's not to say I can't have a long relationship - I haven't had many, but they last for years. I treated my exes right, and I'm still friends with them. But they understood at the end of the day, we go to our own places. You handle your sh!t, and I'll handle mine.
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Reply #142 posted 11/19/06 8:50am

PricelessHo

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uPtoWnNY said:

PricelessHo said:

I don't know if my view will ever change but lately i've been seriously considering getting by on my own.

Everytime i think of scrapping the idea something happens that pushes me not to.

Anyone? And why (if you don't mind of course)



The only person I have to support is me. If I get in a jam, my family has my back. It's a great life. I don't get folks who want to get married because they're afraid of being alone when they're old. That's a poor reason, IMO.



Exactly, thank you!
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Reply #143 posted 11/19/06 9:18am

NAnomaly

uPtoWnNY said:

Society has done a number on women's heads. People think I have a cool & hip lifestyle. If I was a woman, they'd feel sorry for me and give me the "your biological clock is running out" sh!t. Talk about a double-standard.

I know successful women with so much going on in their lives hook up with losers just so they won't be alone. I'm like, "WTF are y'all doing?!?!" One of my dearest friends did that - she even moved the dude into HER house, had a kid with him, and eventually married him. I hope she got a prenup, because I don't trust that cat.

People have to wake the f--- up, and start living for themselves. If it doesn't feel right, don't do it.


I have cousins who have done the very same thing.
That's right because as far as I know you only get the one (life).
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Reply #144 posted 11/19/06 10:26am

susannah

CarrieMpls said:

muirdo said:

ach nothing
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I caught that. wink


hug


I didn't, but.... hug comfort
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Reply #145 posted 11/19/06 10:31am

EverSoulicious

hmmmm hmmm well since I was in a fucked up marriage for 17 years, have been single for a little while now, I think the idea of being single for ever is my plan thumbs up!
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Reply #146 posted 11/19/06 10:36am

Harlepolis

I'm a living example of dysfunctionalism(if this is even a word lol) but I was willing to take the chance and I thankfully TOOK it nod

I've been married for a year and a 1/2 with a newborn kid who was born last august. Its been scary becoz the last relationship I've been into nearly drove me outta this life(to be fair and without getting into much details; both of us were some young crazy and violent lunatics) so it was risky getting into a new healthy relationship after I cleaned my life.

And it was hard living day-to-day with a "functional" individual at first, coz honestly thats NOT who I am lol but I try to tune my flamboyant temper down for the sake of making this relationship work, coz god knows he's patient enough to put up with my bullshit(but I won't 4get myself: he TOO got some bullshit I have to put up with every now and then) but this is whats beautiful about a relationship, understanding each other.

To answer this thread ?uestion: 2 years ago I was on my "men ain't shit" bandwagon, I would've co-signed this thread like crazy.

But child, its haaaaard enough living this life alone(thats right, I'll claim this poor excuse) after all, I'm only my folks' kid, I saw this powerful man who I consider my father fall down into a weak state of mind once only to be lifted by this women who I consider my mother(which I thought for a long time to be a VERY timid woman, only to find out that I was dead wrong).

Thats a simple example. Now if my pops can have that, I want to have it too, as naive as you may think this to be.

Some folks are happy to be single, some are not,,I happen to fall into the latter category. Call it dependency, insecurity, weakness or whateva term you think of, I'm not ashamed of what I feel.

And hey,,,dysfunctional people got to live too lol

Hope my post doesn't sound sappy.
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Reply #147 posted 11/19/06 10:42am

brownsugar

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Reply #148 posted 11/19/06 10:44am

uPtoWnNY

Harlepolis said:

Some folks are happy to be single, some are not,,I happen to fall into the latter category. Call it dependency, insecurity, weakness or whateva term you think of, I'm not ashamed of what I feel.



Do whatever works for you. Your happiness is all that matters.
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Reply #149 posted 11/19/06 10:47am

Spats

PricelessHo said:

uPtoWnNY said:




The only person I have to support is me. If I get in a jam, my family has my back. It's a great life. I don't get folks who want to get married because they're afraid of being alone when they're old. That's a poor reason, IMO.



Exactly, thank you!


Exactly. A guy can trust his family more than he can a girlfriend or wife.
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