So true.
[Edited 11/13/06 16:15pm]

something said:

You took the words right out of my mouth...er...fingertips.

madartista said:

..but their own sense of security must be kinda loose if they cant even be upfront with their best friend, or themselves?

I see that as kinda like really insecure/ and or fake?

something said:

I totally agree in what you have just said, and will have to remember and instill it in my head..

heyduckie said:

I really am..

REDFEATHERS said:

and sometimes YOU deserve more than the second effort they end up giving

REDFEATHERS said:

yes, that's exactly the point.

Well, I live by the simple motto: if I can't trust you, I have no use for you.

So if someone were to break that trust, I'd be completely done with them.

I’ve had my trust betrayed by those closest to me family, friends and others who have passed in and out of my life and as a result I don’t trust anybody anymore except for two people my two best friends because over the years and the life of our friendship they’ve earned my trust, my friends aren’t perfect they’re human which means they’re flawed they stumble fall fuckup and make mistakes but in all of their fuckups they’ve never shown me that I couldn’t trust them and they’ve never betrayed my trust in any way, I trust them with the things I hold most dear and precious, I trust them with my life, I’ve come to differentiate between someone being just a fuckup in spite of themselves and someone acting with conscious malice intent to hurt, harm or cause me pain.
[Edited 11/14/06 7:35am]

It takes me a very long time to trust anyone the first time around, and even then it's a gradual thing. People who I begin to trust and then they betray that...it would take more than a very long time and a lot of proof on their part. Proof that they had a reason for doing so, or thought they did...proof that it wouldn't happen again. In some cases, I would just not trust them again. Ever.

The only person I trust 1000% is myself. No doubts.

I like to build up boundaries between me and others so that I never fully rely on them (or trust them, or love them).

xplnyrslf said:

are you sure about that?

gosh, I can't trust myself lol

REDFEATHERS said:

This is normally true in most cases....a betrayer of trust will almost always seek forgiveness more than the betrayed will seek them out to forgive....but in the end, its all about truly seeing the remorse instead of just hearing someone who betrayed you say what they think you want to hear them say....

REDFEATHERS said:

I have never trusted anyone with my mind, spirit and soul. You are just asking for trouble doing that. Especially in the opposite sex. If anyone betrayed my trust it would be over. The people i trust the most would be my buddies. Although some of their advice to me on women is a little suspect.

reneGade20 said:

CinisterCee said:

Yeah, That will show them!

YlangYlang said:

I agree very much with what Madartista has said, but I don't agree with Martina's pov saying that if a person tells you things about a third party they're SURE to do it about you right back. There are (for me) degrees of trust, only a select few get my complete trust and as you know you're among them Nicole Only 2 ppl here have that and the only other people to have had it are my best childhood friends, Jen and Teddy. Jen and I aren't friends anymore so that only leaves Teddy. "New" people really don't need apply.

To finish up, somebody above said that you can trust people to a degree without leaving yourself vulnerable or something to that extent. I agree with that and I think that's the way to go in MOST cases.

Love you sweetie!

Whats the point of bothering with someone you dont feel you can trust? Unless maybe you might want to bang them and throw them into the garbage, but then again it would be a turn off anyway.

Teacher said:

Love you too!

JustErin said:

Mine too

Sometimes.....they REALLY deserve their second chances though....

Oh and by the way Nicole....I hate it that you stole my old avvie...

pardonme4livin said:

How did I steal your avvie?

pardonme4livin said:

Why, and in what circumstances do you mean?

Three rules I live by in life...they were taught to me by my daddy.


1. Never trust anyone but yourself...you are all you really have in life and really the only one you can count on 100%.


2. Never rely on a man to support you...be independant and support yourself...us men are not worth relying on.


3. Any women should have anything she wants in life at all costs and expenses no matter what. Also the harder she works for it the sweeter the victory when she gets what she wants.
[Edited 11/16/06 18:39pm]

mostbeautifulgrlntheworld said:

Fabulous rules!! my dad taught me the same things though he emphasized/stressed having my own separate bank account.