Number23 said: Spats said: This is really impressing who? You, boo. Moo. William II was followed on the throne by his younger brother, Henry. He was crowned three days after his brother's death, against the possibility that his eldest brother Robert might claim the English throne. After the decisive battle of Tinchebrai in 1106 in France, Henry completed his conquest of Normandy from Robert, who then (unusually even for that time) spent the last 28 years of his life as his brother's prisoner. An energetic, decisive and occasionally cruel ruler, Henry centralised the administration of England and Normandy in the royal court, using 'viceroys' in Normandy and a group of advisers in England to act on his behalf when he was absent across the Channel. Henry successfully sought to increase royal revenues, as shown by the official records of his exchequer (the Pipe Roll of 1130, the first exchequer account to survive). He established peaceful relations with Scotland, through his marriage to Mathilda of Scotland. Henry's name 'Beauclerc' denoted his good education (as the youngest son, his parents possibly expected that he would become a bishop); Henry was probably the first Norman king to be fluent in English. In 1120, his legitimate sons William and Richard drowned in the White Ship which sank in the English Channel. Spats, you are a twat. This posed a succession problem, as Henry never allowed any of his illegitimate children to expect succession to either England or Normandy. Henry had a legitimate daughter Matilda (widow of Emperor Henry V, subsequently married to the Count of Anjou). However, it was his nephew Stephen (reigned 1135-54), son of William the Conqueror's daughter Adela, who succeeded Henry after his death, allegedly caused by eating too many lampreys (fish) in 1135, as the barons mostly opposed the idea of a female ruler. This is one of the dumbest posts ever. | |
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Number23 said: Spats said: This is really impressing who? You, boo. Moo. William II was followed on the throne by his younger brother, Henry. He was crowned three days after his brother's death, against the possibility that his eldest brother Robert might claim the English throne. After the decisive battle of Tinchebrai in 1106 in France, Henry completed his conquest of Normandy from Robert, who then (unusually even for that time) spent the last 28 years of his life as his brother's prisoner. An energetic, decisive and occasionally cruel ruler, Henry centralised the administration of England and Normandy in the royal court, using 'viceroys' in Normandy and a group of advisers in England to act on his behalf when he was absent across the Channel. Henry successfully sought to increase royal revenues, as shown by the official records of his exchequer (the Pipe Roll of 1130, the first exchequer account to survive). He established peaceful relations with Scotland, through his marriage to Mathilda of Scotland. Henry's name 'Beauclerc' denoted his good education (as the youngest son, his parents possibly expected that he would become a bishop); Henry was probably the first Norman king to be fluent in English. In 1120, his legitimate sons William and Richard drowned in the White Ship which sank in the English Channel. Spats, you are a twat. This posed a succession problem, as Henry never allowed any of his illegitimate children to expect succession to either England or Normandy. Henry had a legitimate daughter Matilda (widow of Emperor Henry V, subsequently married to the Count of Anjou). However, it was his nephew Stephen (reigned 1135-54), son of William the Conqueror's daughter Adela, who succeeded Henry after his death, allegedly caused by eating too many lampreys (fish) in 1135, as the barons mostly opposed the idea of a female ruler. "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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Spats said: Number23 said: You, boo. Moo. William II was followed on the throne by his younger brother, Henry. He was crowned three days after his brother's death, against the possibility that his eldest brother Robert might claim the English throne. After the decisive battle of Tinchebrai in 1106 in France, Henry completed his conquest of Normandy from Robert, who then (unusually even for that time) spent the last 28 years of his life as his brother's prisoner. An energetic, decisive and occasionally cruel ruler, Henry centralised the administration of England and Normandy in the royal court, using 'viceroys' in Normandy and a group of advisers in England to act on his behalf when he was absent across the Channel. Henry successfully sought to increase royal revenues, as shown by the official records of his exchequer (the Pipe Roll of 1130, the first exchequer account to survive). He established peaceful relations with Scotland, through his marriage to Mathilda of Scotland. Henry's name 'Beauclerc' denoted his good education (as the youngest son, his parents possibly expected that he would become a bishop); Henry was probably the first Norman king to be fluent in English. In 1120, his legitimate sons William and Richard drowned in the White Ship which sank in the English Channel. Spats, you are a twat. This posed a succession problem, as Henry never allowed any of his illegitimate children to expect succession to either England or Normandy. Henry had a legitimate daughter Matilda (widow of Emperor Henry V, subsequently married to the Count of Anjou). However, it was his nephew Stephen (reigned 1135-54), son of William the Conqueror's daughter Adela, who succeeded Henry after his death, allegedly caused by eating too many lampreys (fish) in 1135, as the barons mostly opposed the idea of a female ruler. This is one of the dumbest posts ever. post of the year!! | |
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something said: Spats said: This is one of the dumbest posts ever. post of the year!! It makes no sense at all. Nonsense. | |
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Spats said: something said: post of the year!! It makes no sense at all. Nonsense. you dolt i was referring to yours i withdraw my nomination | |
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something said: Spats said: It makes no sense at all. Nonsense. you dolt i was referring to yours i withdraw my nomination You went to too much trouble for that nonsense. | |
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Spats said: Number23 said: You, boo. Moo. William II was followed on the throne by his younger brother, Henry. He was crowned three days after his brother's death, against the possibility that his eldest brother Robert might claim the English throne. After the decisive battle of Tinchebrai in 1106 in France, Henry completed his conquest of Normandy from Robert, who then (unusually even for that time) spent the last 28 years of his life as his brother's prisoner. An energetic, decisive and occasionally cruel ruler, Henry centralised the administration of England and Normandy in the royal court, using 'viceroys' in Normandy and a group of advisers in England to act on his behalf when he was absent across the Channel. Henry successfully sought to increase royal revenues, as shown by the official records of his exchequer (the Pipe Roll of 1130, the first exchequer account to survive). He established peaceful relations with Scotland, through his marriage to Mathilda of Scotland. Henry's name 'Beauclerc' denoted his good education (as the youngest son, his parents possibly expected that he would become a bishop); Henry was probably the first Norman king to be fluent in English. In 1120, his legitimate sons William and Richard drowned in the White Ship which sank in the English Channel. Spats, you are a twat. This posed a succession problem, as Henry never allowed any of his illegitimate children to expect succession to either England or Normandy. Henry had a legitimate daughter Matilda (widow of Emperor Henry V, subsequently married to the Count of Anjou). However, it was his nephew Stephen (reigned 1135-54), son of William the Conqueror's daughter Adela, who succeeded Henry after his death, allegedly caused by eating too many lampreys (fish) in 1135, as the barons mostly opposed the idea of a female ruler. This is one of the dumbest posts ever. | |
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Spats said: something said: you dolt i was referring to yours i withdraw my nomination You went to too much trouble for that nonsense. thank you for pointing that out i'll never appreciate you again | |
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Number23 said: Spats said: This is one of the dumbest posts ever. | |
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Number23 said: Spats said: This is one of the dumbest posts ever. | |
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I saw the hidden message. He went to all that trouble with that nonsense post just to send me that message? | |
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So what happens when a child's "voice" has been stymied and he or she has been socialized to stop whining, acting out, or throwing tantrums in protest?
Possibly, the need for voice does not disappear. Instead, it goes underground and re-appears years later in the form of hidden messages. Here's an example. At my home some time ago, Trish (a client of mine) told her husband, Randy, that she was bothered by a turf battle at the web design firm where she was working. Then another woman, on her own accord, had taken over an administrative responsibility that Trish had previously been in charge of. Trish had stewed about it all day. So when she finished telling Randy the story, he hardly stopped to think. "This is what you should do...." he said, and he went on to explain, step by step, what he considered the best course of action. Yes, the advice was logical and to the point--yet when he stopped speaking, Trish felt worse rather than better. Outside a little later, she approached her husband and said: "You know, I really wasn't looking for advice." "Under your head, what were you looking for?" he responded gruffly. "Well, I just wanted you to know what I was going through, so I would feel less alone." "And what good is that?" he answered, obviously hurt by the perceived criticism. Negating on n the surface the interaction is simple. A wife is distressed by an event at work and a husband gives advice. But why does such a simple discussion end with hurt feelings? Knowledge is figuring why did they have this same fight over and over again. To answer these questions we have to look at both parties' personal histories. Evidently, Trish's father had died when Trish was three, and her mother had sunk into a deep depression from which she never fully recovered. Returing after a year of therapy, Trish could identify the feeling of aloneness, a dark and scary part of her past, and ask Randy for help. | |
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Number23 said: So what happens when a child's "voice" has been stymied and he or she has been socialized to stop whining, acting out, or throwing tantrums in protest?
Possibly, the need for voice does not disappear. Instead, it goes underground and re-appears years later in the form of hidden messages. Here's an example. At my home some time ago, Trish (a client of mine) told her husband, Randy, that she was bothered by a turf battle at the web design firm where she was working. Then another woman, on her own accord, had taken over an administrative responsibility that Trish had previously been in charge of. Trish had stewed about it all day. So when she finished telling Randy the story, he hardly stopped to think. "This is what you should do...." he said, and he went on to explain, step by step, what he considered the best course of action. Yes, the advice was logical and to the point--yet when he stopped speaking, Trish felt worse rather than better. Outside a little later, she approached her husband and said: "You know, I really wasn't looking for advice." "Under your head, what were you looking for?" he responded gruffly. "Well, I just wanted you to know what I was going through, so I would feel less alone." "And what good is that?" he answered, obviously hurt by the perceived criticism. Negating on n the surface the interaction is simple. A wife is distressed by an event at work and a husband gives advice. But why does such a simple discussion end with hurt feelings? Knowledge is figuring why did they have this same fight over and over again. To answer these questions we have to look at both parties' personal histories. Evidently, Trish's father had died when Trish was three, and her mother had sunk into a deep depression from which she never fully recovered. Returing after a year of therapy, Trish could identify the feeling of aloneness, a dark and scary part of her past, and ask Randy for help. What does this have to do with me? | |
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Spats said: Number23 said: So what happens when a child's "voice" has been stymied and he or she has been socialized to stop whining, acting out, or throwing tantrums in protest?
Possibly, the need for voice does not disappear. Instead, it goes underground and re-appears years later in the form of hidden messages. Here's an example. At my home some time ago, Trish (a client of mine) told her husband, Randy, that she was bothered by a turf battle at the web design firm where she was working. Then another woman, on her own accord, had taken over an administrative responsibility that Trish had previously been in charge of. Trish had stewed about it all day. So when she finished telling Randy the story, he hardly stopped to think. "This is what you should do...." he said, and he went on to explain, step by step, what he considered the best course of action. Yes, the advice was logical and to the point--yet when he stopped speaking, Trish felt worse rather than better. Outside a little later, she approached her husband and said: "You know, I really wasn't looking for advice." "Under your head, what were you looking for?" he responded gruffly. "Well, I just wanted you to know what I was going through, so I would feel less alone." "And what good is that?" he answered, obviously hurt by the perceived criticism. Negating on n the surface the interaction is simple. A wife is distressed by an event at work and a husband gives advice. But why does such a simple discussion end with hurt feelings? Knowledge is figuring why did they have this same fight over and over again. To answer these questions we have to look at both parties' personal histories. Evidently, Trish's father had died when Trish was three, and her mother had sunk into a deep depression from which she never fully recovered. Returing after a year of therapy, Trish could identify the feeling of aloneness, a dark and scary part of her past, and ask Randy for help. What does this have to do with me? | |
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Number23 said: Spats said: What does this have to do with me? I didn't get it this time. What is it? | |
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That just reminds me of Highland Toffee.
Remember Highland Toffee? | |
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susannah said: That just reminds me of Highland Toffee.
Remember Highland Toffee? I don't, but can someone please send me some Battenburg cake? I can't get it here anymore. | |
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JustErin said: susannah said: That just reminds me of Highland Toffee.
Remember Highland Toffee? I don't, but can someone please send me some Battenburg cake? I can't get it here anymore. It's a Scottish thing Why ever not? | |
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susannah said: JustErin said: I don't, but can someone please send me some Battenburg cake? I can't get it here anymore. It's a Scottish thing Why ever not? Canada used to have some Marks & Spencer stores. That was the only place you could get it. I tried making some last year but it didn't turn out. | |
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susannah said: Oh yes, I do know what that is! Yum! | |
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JustErin said: susannah said: It's a Scottish thing Why ever not? Canada used to have some Marks & Spencer stores. That was the only place you could get it. I tried making some last year but it didn't turn out. You can't get battenberg cake in Canada?! Thats just flipping wierd! | |
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LleeLlee said: no amount of smoothing it down with his hands was going to make it any better.
LMAO! | |
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susannah said: JustErin said: Canada used to have some Marks & Spencer stores. That was the only place you could get it. I tried making some last year but it didn't turn out. You can't get battenberg cake in Canada?! Thats just flipping wierd! what is battenberg cake? | |
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something said: susannah said: You can't get battenberg cake in Canada?! Thats just flipping wierd! what is battenberg cake? See pic above! | |
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susannah said: something said: what is battenberg cake? See pic above! saw the pic i was wondering flavors, etc what makes it special? and what makes it scottish? | |
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Spats said: Number23 said: So what happens when a child's "voice" has been stymied and he or she has been socialized to stop whining, acting out, or throwing tantrums in protest?
Possibly, the need for voice does not disappear. Instead, it goes underground and re-appears years later in the form of hidden messages. Here's an example. At my home some time ago, Trish (a client of mine) told her husband, Randy, that she was bothered by a turf battle at the web design firm where she was working. Then another woman, on her own accord, had taken over an administrative responsibility that Trish had previously been in charge of. Trish had stewed about it all day. So when she finished telling Randy the story, he hardly stopped to think. "This is what you should do...." he said, and he went on to explain, step by step, what he considered the best course of action. Yes, the advice was logical and to the point--yet when he stopped speaking, Trish felt worse rather than better. Outside a little later, she approached her husband and said: "You know, I really wasn't looking for advice." "Under your head, what were you looking for?" he responded gruffly. "Well, I just wanted you to know what I was going through, so I would feel less alone." "And what good is that?" he answered, obviously hurt by the perceived criticism. Negating on n the surface the interaction is simple. A wife is distressed by an event at work and a husband gives advice. But why does such a simple discussion end with hurt feelings? Knowledge is figuring why did they have this same fight over and over again. To answer these questions we have to look at both parties' personal histories. Evidently, Trish's father had died when Trish was three, and her mother had sunk into a deep depression from which she never fully recovered. Returing after a year of therapy, Trish could identify the feeling of aloneness, a dark and scary part of her past, and ask Randy for help. What does this have to do with me? In case you hadn't noticed, this thread ISN'T ABOUT YOU. I feel sorry for anyone who is forced to be in close contact with you for any reason. | |
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gemini13 said: Spats said: What does this have to do with me? In case you hadn't noticed, this thread ISN'T ABOUT YOU. I feel sorry for anyone who is forced to be in close contact with you for any reason. That actually might be about him. Read the first letter of every new paragraph. I just noticed it after I wrote it. Spooky, eh? [Edited 11/13/06 14:37pm] | |
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