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PrintableINSATIABLE said: AsianBomb777 said: 
You ass! I missed that. Erm.. I don't know about the phases, becuase I dive right into it. I just go straight for a water fast, and it normally lasts between 1 and 3 days, with me breaking it due to schedule or that my body is just telling me it's time (something you'll just kind of figure out). I break the fast normally with a fruit salad, and juice. Warning, about 20 min or less after the first meal, you're gonna take a very quick liquidous shit.  See, I have no idea during the week when it'd be best to start. I'm scared, but it's good to know yours only last a few days. The fuckers on this website are quite hardcore. 21 days!! Of course you're euphoric after 21 days, you're shitting out chunks of your brain tissue!
And thanks for the warning. Actually 21 days is for optimal health I"m told, but I would do that at a fasting clinique (money money). Remember that lady that works with Howard Sterns? I can't remember her name. She had health issues, and underwent a 21 day fast at a clinic on recommendation of a friend, and it turned her life around. I think there's Interviews about it out there somewhere. | |
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madartista said: susannah said: Although I'm guessing in my unknowledgeable position that they would tell you not to fast anwyay?
 a fast would suggest an approach to heal my body through nature rather than pharmaceuticals, and where does a doctor make money in that scenario?????
i can take my drugs on an empty stomach, so that's not so much a concern as the point of the fast is to flush everything out. i've got a blood pressur emonitor at home. i'll keep an eye on how it goes. There are actually good reasons not to fast that have nothing to do with pharmaceuticals. Your cells need glucose. Getting energy from fat also requires glucose. Once your liver's glycogen stores are depleted (within a day), your body doesn't have the glucose it needs to get energy from fat, so it goes after your muscle tissue. This results in ketosis, which despite what the Atkins folks would have you believe, is not a good thing. Among other things, it's rough on your kidneys. And you want to be nice to your kidneys. So, anyway, your body eats your muscles when you fast. And when you stop fasting, it takes work to rebuild those muscles. But it's very, very easy to build fat. So when your body weight goes back to normal, without a whole lot of work you'll have less lean muscle mass and more fat. Which means a slower metabolism, basically. That's the short version. If you want the biochemistry, I'll have to pull out the books. 
Oh, and most of the benefits are completely unproven. But, as always, you gotta do what seems right for your body.  oh noes, prince is gonna soo me!!1! | |
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too bad i'm super puny.....would love to get healthy. | |
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Muse2NOPharaoh said: madartista said: hang in there, man!
on monday i'm starting the 10-day master cleanse. easing away from solids today & tomorrow  I shall join you... I am due!Why are you waiting till Monday? The weekend is the best time to start! | |
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HereToRockYourWorld said: There are actually good reasons not to fast that have nothing to do with pharmaceuticals. Your cells need glucose. Getting energy from fat also requires glucose. Once your liver's glycogen stores are depleted (within a day), your body doesn't have the glucose it needs to get energy from fat, so it goes after your muscle tissue. This results in ketosis, which despite what the Atkins folks would have you believe, is not a good thing. Among other things, it's rough on your kidneys. And you want to be nice to your kidneys. So, anyway, your body eats your muscles when you fast. And when you stop fasting, it takes work to rebuild those muscles. But it's very, very easy to build fat. So when your body weight goes back to normal, without a whole lot of work you'll have less lean muscle mass and more fat. Which means a slower metabolism, basically.
That's the short version. If you want the biochemistry, I'll have to pull out the books.
Oh, and most of the benefits are completely unproven. But, as always, you gotta do what seems right for your body. See!!! Even the ones on the way to being doctors!!! 
I'm doing the master cleanse, which includes lemon and maple syrup. will i be getting glucose? at any rate, i do feel like i need to flush a lot of crap out of my body. and i'm not anti-medicine by a long shot. i am healthy now because of medicine, but i'd like to get to a point where i don't have to take a pill every day. http://elmadartista.tumblr.com/ http://twitter.com/madartista | |
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Try to arrange that your fast is in a time period where you have low activity or lobsters.
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madartista said: HereToRockYourWorld said: There are actually good reasons not to fast that have nothing to do with pharmaceuticals. Your cells need glucose. Getting energy from fat also requires glucose. Once your liver's glycogen stores are depleted (within a day), your body doesn't have the glucose it needs to get energy from fat, so it goes after your muscle tissue. This results in ketosis, which despite what the Atkins folks would have you believe, is not a good thing. Among other things, it's rough on your kidneys. And you want to be nice to your kidneys. So, anyway, your body eats your muscles when you fast. And when you stop fasting, it takes work to rebuild those muscles. But it's very, very easy to build fat. So when your body weight goes back to normal, without a whole lot of work you'll have less lean muscle mass and more fat. Which means a slower metabolism, basically.
That's the short version. If you want the biochemistry, I'll have to pull out the books.
Oh, and most of the benefits are completely unproven. But, as always, you gotta do what seems right for your body. See!!! Even the ones on the way to being doctors!!!
I'm doing the master cleanse, which includes lemon and maple syrup. will i be getting glucose? at any rate, i do feel like i need to flush a lot of crap out of my body. and i'm not anti-medicine by a long shot. i am healthy now because of medicine, but i'd like to get to a point where i don't have to take a pill every day. Lemon and maple syrup will be ok for a little while.  oh noes, prince is gonna soo me!!1! | |
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AsianBomb777 said: Muse2NOPharaoh said: I shall join you... I am due!Why are you waiting till Monday? The weekend is the best time to start!  Chris and I are going to Vegas next weekend! | |
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HereToRockYourWorld said: madartista said: See!!! Even the ones on the way to being doctors!!!
I'm doing the master cleanse, which includes lemon and maple syrup. will i be getting glucose? at any rate, i do feel like i need to flush a lot of crap out of my body. and i'm not anti-medicine by a long shot. i am healthy now because of medicine, but i'd like to get to a point where i don't have to take a pill every day. Lemon and maple syrup will be ok for a little while. make sure you buy it from the health food store Chris... There are 2 types of maple... Type A and B! | |
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Muse2NOPharaoh said: HereToRockYourWorld said: Lemon and maple syrup will be ok for a little while. make sure you buy it from the health food store Chris... There are 2 types of maple... Type A and B! They'll both give you simple sugars, though.
Ok, I really have to GET OFF THE DAMNED ORG. This place is a fuckin' crackpipe to me lately. . . oh noes, prince is gonna soo me!!1! | |
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HereToRockYourWorld said: Muse2NOPharaoh said: make sure you buy it from the health food store Chris... There are 2 types of maple... Type A and B! They'll both give you simple sugars, though.
Ok, I really have to GET OFF THE DAMNED ORG. This place is a fuckin' crackpipe to me lately. . . The one contains a lot more nutrients then the other however. | |
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i think i'll start a wine fast...  may not help my sinuses or my skin, but it sounds like a hell of a lot more fun. | |
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HereToRockYourWorld said: Ok, I really have to GET OFF THE DAMNED ORG. This place is a fuckin' crackpipe to me lately. . .
don't leave me my sweet melly mel!!! http://elmadartista.tumblr.com/ http://twitter.com/madartista | |
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on a related fasting note, i just ended what was supposed to be a 10-day Prince cleanse. I guess I'll start that one up after next week, too! http://elmadartista.tumblr.com/ http://twitter.com/madartista | |
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IrresistibleB1tch said: i think i'll start a wine fast...
may not help my sinuses or my skin, but it sounds like a hell of a lot more fun. Oh shit, sign me up to that instead. We've got more wine than food in this house. Bless living in wine country.  Oh shit, my hat done fell off | |
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IrresistibleB1tch said: i think i'll start a wine fast...
may not help my sinuses or my skin, but it sounds like a hell of a lot more fun. See? if all orgers were as smart as u, we could take over the fricking world!!! http://elmadartista.tumblr.com/ http://twitter.com/madartista | |
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INSATIABLE said: IrresistibleB1tch said: i think i'll start a wine fast...
may not help my sinuses or my skin, but it sounds like a hell of a lot more fun. Oh shit, sign me up to that instead. We've got more wine than food in this house. Bless living in wine country. well, we live in Boone's Farm country - does that count?!  | |
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madartista said: IrresistibleB1tch said: i think i'll start a wine fast...
may not help my sinuses or my skin, but it sounds like a hell of a lot more fun. See? if all orgers were as smart as u, we could take over the fricking world!!!  | |
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IrresistibleB1tch said: INSATIABLE said: Oh shit, sign me up to that instead. We've got more wine than food in this house. Bless living in wine country. well, we live in Boone's Farm country - does that count?! HA! Why, of course. As long as what's in the bottle does the trick. I may have my preferences, but could never be a liquor snob. EQUAL OPPORTUNITY ALCOHOLISM!!Oh shit, my hat done fell off | |
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INSATIABLE said: IrresistibleB1tch said: well, we live in Boone's Farm country - does that count?! HA! Why, of course. As long as what's in the bottle does the trick. I may have my preferences, but could never be a liquor snob. EQUAL OPPORTUNITY ALCOHOLISM!!i'd love to claim that i'm a wine snob, but as i'm sitting here drinking Winking Owl Cabernet, it would seem a little disingenuous... | |
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IrresistibleB1tch said: i'd love to claim that i'm a wine snob, but as i'm sitting here drinking Winking Owl Cabernet, it would seem a little disingenuous...
i'm rocking a 2-buck Chuck cabernet -- woo-woo! http://elmadartista.tumblr.com/ http://twitter.com/madartista | |
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madartista said: IrresistibleB1tch said: i'd love to claim that i'm a wine snob, but as i'm sitting here drinking Winking Owl Cabernet, it would seem a little disingenuous...
i'm rocking a 2-buck Chuck cabernet -- woo-woo! i've heard so much about that stuff - haven't been able to find it here. i guess you can order it online? | |
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IrresistibleB1tch said: i've heard so much about that stuff - haven't been able to find it here. i guess you can order it online?
hmm... not sure. my understanding it that's it's only available at Trader Joes -- are they online, too? anyway, it's quite decent for $2. would you like me to send you some? i will! http://elmadartista.tumblr.com/ http://twitter.com/madartista | |
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This thread sucks ass now.
I'm going to Stake N Shake. | |
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AsianBomb777 said: This thread sucks ass now.
I'm going to Stake N Shake. | |
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madartista said: IrresistibleB1tch said: i've heard so much about that stuff - haven't been able to find it here. i guess you can order it online?
hmm... not sure. my understanding it that's it's only available at Trader Joes -- are they online, too? anyway, it's quite decent for $2. would you like me to send you some? i will! aw, thanks - you're a sweetie  but the shipping would be ridiculous...
the Winking Owl is $2.49 at Aldi... | |
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AsianBomb777 said: This thread sucks ass now.
I'm going to Stake N Shake. your fasting site is cracking me up! first the lobsters, now this: Fasting with protein became known as the Opti-fast. Fasters took nothing but water and a protein drink. Sadly, several people died. http://elmadartista.tumblr.com/ http://twitter.com/madartista | |
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evenstar3 said: AsianBomb777 said: 
i need to learn to control my curiosity, damnit. Me too!!! "Nobody makes me bleed my own blood...NOBODY!"
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madartista said: AsianBomb777 said: This thread sucks ass now.
I'm going to Stake N Shake. your fasting site is cracking me up! first the lobsters, now this: Fasting with protein became known as the Opti-fast. Fasters took nothing but water and a protein drink. Sadly, several people died. |
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