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PrintableSpats said: NDRU said: It doesn't have to be aggressive. I'm sure you're not looking for an aggressive woman, just someone who will take that scary first step. You'd do better just to admit what you want & be honest, not just with us, but with the women you date. I can't just come out and say "i want sacktime". In the dating world honesty does not usually work. You have to game play to survive. I would kill for a woman who was that honest to just come and say that but it does not happen. no, don't say you want sacktime, but in the dating world, honesty in the form of showing her you want sacktime will work a lot better than sitting on your hands and waiting. even the most dishonest players in the game are honest when it comes to showing they want sacktime but I'm not sure you want to be in the game, so I don't know why you play it My Legacy
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