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PrintableSpats said: INSATIABLE said: Again, we all start out clueless. We all get burned. Women learn. Men learn. Women are not a different species. Women and men do similarly idiotic things, and can both be assholes. Start out clueless? I know women who are in their thirties still dating "bad boys". That's their problem. Who gives a shit whether they're doing it? Oh shit, my hat done fell off | |
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INSATIABLE said: coolcat said: So are you agreeing with Spats? I'm sorry, I'm unable to determine how you see this. I'm acknowledging him while trying not to insult him. I agree that there are women out there who might choose the wrong person. I have no idea how many, and I don't care how many. What I was doing was telling him that his claiming that all women are the same is hilarious. I thought you had meant that women would date jerks at some point (like spats was claiming), then learn from their mistakes and move on... | |
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NDRU said: Spats said: No, every woman i have been with has been a nice woman. i have good taste in women. They might let me down in the end but it's not by being a bad person. but every woman you've dated has dated a jerk? did I read that right? No, women in general. | |
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WillyWonka said: luv4all7 said: Yeah, and the people who work hard enough to work on their outward appearance deserve just as much props as the people who study law or WHATEVER.
Its all work and it's all HARD work. I HATE when people put down the fact that someone cares about their appearance. Just cuz they llok good outside doesn't mean they're not ALSO beautiful inside. It's not their fault some people are to damn lazy to fix what they look like. And I'm talking about extrememly overweight people before anyone jumps down my throat..... 
[Edited 11/2/06 13:48pm] Unhealthily overweight individuals who work hard to become fit and healthy are to be admired for it is a wonderful accomplishment and takes effort and dedication. What I find sad is how many in today's society extoll the idea of "beauty" as the end-all be-all of human accomplishment, and who put physical perfection first in exclusion to almost all else. Caring about one's appearance is one thing; obsessing over it, holding it above all else in terms of importance, relying solely on it, and believing it somehow makes one elite or more deserving is another. Physical beauty can bring out so very much ugliness.  and there it is  again, MrWonka the voice of wisdom  | |
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Spats said: Spookymuffin said: Quite frankly yes. He's fully aware that he's aggravating everyone here and revels in it. No, it does not. I am not saying anything to get a rise. They are my honest opinions. And accurate ones. The facts are out there. Go out on the dating scene. They are everywhere. Again, you're generalising based on your life experiences and assuming that that rings true for all other 5,999,999,999 humans on the planet, but you're wrong. You're so unbelievably wrong it's not true. You're encased inside your little bubble of comfort that is the society and culture you experience as you see it and applying it to a bunch of people from all over the world. Life just isn't that simple, Spats. It just isn't. You'd do far better not to voice your opinions when you clearly, and you do clearly - if you say otherwise you're lying through your teeth - see that it annoys people. | |
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Spats said: NDRU said: but every woman you've dated has dated a jerk? did I read that right? No, women in general. Why do you believe that the women you know should represent the rest of the women in the world? Oh shit, my hat done fell off | |
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INSATIABLE said: Spats said: Start out clueless? I know women who are in their thirties still dating "bad boys". That's their problem. Who gives a shit whether they're doing it? Because we have been talking about all the women who do that. | |
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coolcat said: INSATIABLE said: I'm sorry, I'm unable to determine how you see this. I'm acknowledging him while trying not to insult him. I agree that there are women out there who might choose the wrong person. I have no idea how many, and I don't care how many. What I was doing was telling him that his claiming that all women are the same is hilarious. I thought you had meant that women would date jerks at some point (like spats was claiming), then learn from their mistakes and move on... If I said that all women/men do the same thing at one point, I was wrong. I can't claim everyone will experience the same things. Ugh. Oh shit, my hat done fell off | |
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WillyWonka said: luv4all7 said: Yeah, and the people who work hard enough to work on their outward appearance deserve just as much props as the people who study law or WHATEVER.
Its all work and it's all HARD work. I HATE when people put down the fact that someone cares about their appearance. Just cuz they llok good outside doesn't mean they're not ALSO beautiful inside. It's not their fault some people are to damn lazy to fix what they look like. And I'm talking about extrememly overweight people before anyone jumps down my throat.....
[Edited 11/2/06 13:48pm] Unhealthily overweight individuals who work hard to become fit and healthy are to be admired for it is a wonderful accomplishment and takes effort and dedication. What I find sad is how many in today's society extoll the idea of "beauty" as the end-all be-all of human accomplishment, and who put physical perfection first in exclusion to almost all else. Caring about one's appearance is one thing; obsessing over it, holding it above all else in terms of importance, relying solely on it, and believing it somehow makes one elite or more deserving is another. Physical beauty can bring out so very much ugliness. It is so true! I have never run faster than from guys I dated who would be considered "Gods" in every sense of the physical word. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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WillyWonka said:[quote] luv4all7 said: Yeah, and the people who work hard enough to work on their outward appearance deserve just as much props as the people who study law or WHATEVER.
Its all work and it's all HARD work. I HATE when people put down the fact that someone cares about their appearance. Just cuz they llok good outside doesn't mean they're not ALSO beautiful inside. It's not their fault some people are to damn lazy to fix what they look like. And I'm talking about extrememly overweight people before anyone jumps down my throat.....
[Edited 11/2/06 13:48pm] I agree. We place too much emphasis on the superficial. It cuases unhealthy or overweight people to either be defeated by it or to develope a denail of it all together--to say that what's on the inside is all that matters or determines beautify--which is also totally false. I would much rather see Luvall7 naked than alot of orgers on this site, based on her looks alone. But this is not to say that I do not find beauty in those that don't look like her. I look around me everywhere and I see these overweight, unhealthy people, who extoll the virtues of not caring about looking like "barbie" when they aren't really looking at how sad and depressed they themselves look. Depression and larthagy can be worn on a man in the form of excess weight moreso than a sad face, in my opinion. Being overweight to me is not something that makes us depressed so much as a manefestation of depression itself. Most people who are overweight did not get there eating baby carrots and running 5 miles a day. | |
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WillyWonka said: luv4all7 said: Yeah, and the people who work hard enough to work on their outward appearance deserve just as much props as the people who study law or WHATEVER.
Its all work and it's all HARD work. I HATE when people put down the fact that someone cares about their appearance. Just cuz they llok good outside doesn't mean they're not ALSO beautiful inside. It's not their fault some people are to damn lazy to fix what they look like. And I'm talking about extrememly overweight people before anyone jumps down my throat.....
[Edited 11/2/06 13:48pm] Unhealthily overweight individuals who work hard to become fit and healthy are to be admired for it is a wonderful accomplishment and takes effort and dedication. What I find sad is how many in today's society extoll the idea of "beauty" as the end-all be-all of human accomplishment, and who put physical perfection first in exclusion to almost all else. Caring about one's appearance is one thing; obsessing over it, holding it above all else in terms of importance, relying solely on it, and believing it somehow makes one elite or more deserving is another. Physical beauty can bring out so very much ugliness. 
YOU'RE spats!!!!! Kidding! I agree. I just can't say it as nice as u. | |
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INSATIABLE said: Spats said: No, women in general. Why do you believe that the women you know should represent the rest of the women in the world? Everyone i know knows women like that, and they know women like that, etc, etc. There are programs about it on tv all the damn time. I see it everytime i go to clubs all over the city. It's not just a problem in Toronto. Ask womem here and they will tell you they have dated jerks at some point. | |
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Spookymuffin said: applekisses said: Oh, that wasn't my intention at all...that's why I said the part that I had bolded (that talked about how models are people we should look up to) was the bullshit part and I congratulated him on the rest. ok.  I misinferred. and I wasn't clear with my thoughts or intentions. Sorry, Benny. | |
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IrresistibleB1tch said: luv4all7 said: Well in a super model's case sure. They both pay off. Law and modeling. If I could choose being a lawyer or a model, I'd pick being a model anyday. Just cuz thats what I have more interest in. And there is no reason that people can't do both anyway. Look at what Dan wrote. He clowns around, but he is a smart guy. He is successful, fun, AND good looking. Theres no law that you can't be good looking and a good person at the same time. of course there's no reason that people couldn't be both intelligent and good-looking. i'm just surprised that you would put putting energy into one's own look at the same level as somebody studying hard to help others. Well, most people aren't using their intelligence to help people... It's self-interest for the most part... | |
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AsianBomb777 said: I look around me everywhere and I see these overweight, unhealthy people, who extoll the virtues of not caring about looking like "barbie" when they aren't really looking at how sad and depressed they themselves look. Depression and larthagy can be worn on a man in the form of excess weight moreso than a sad face, in my opinion. Being overweight to me is not something that makes us depressed so much as a manefestation of depression itself. Most people who are overweight did not get there eating baby carrots and running 5 miles a day.
Preach. Overweight people (overweight due to negligence) shouldn't receive pity, but eating disorders and carelessness are no different than alcoholism or drug use. It's not always just laziness, unfortunately.  Oh shit, my hat done fell off | |
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coolcat said: IrresistibleB1tch said: of course there's no reason that people couldn't be both intelligent and good-looking. i'm just surprised that you would put putting energy into one's own look at the same level as somebody studying hard to help others. Well, most people aren't using their intelligence to help people... It's self-interest for the most part...  well, i'm slightly more optimistic than that. but i do live in a bubble, so... | |
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applekisses said: Spookymuffin said: ok. I misinferred. and I wasn't clear with my thoughts or intentions. Sorry, Benny. | |
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INSATIABLE said: coolcat said: I thought you had meant that women would date jerks at some point (like spats was claiming), then learn from their mistakes and move on... If I said that all women/men do the same thing at one point, I was wrong. I can't claim everyone will experience the same things. Ugh. It's cool. | |
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Spats said: INSATIABLE said: Why do you believe that the women you know should represent the rest of the women in the world? Everyone i know knows women like that, and they know women like that, etc, etc. There are programs about it on tv all the damn time. I see it everytime i go to clubs all over the city. It's not just a problem in Toronto. Ask womem here and they will tell you they have dated jerks at some point. Well, the theory I've heard is that women are attracted to the self-confidence of the jerk, ie. the jerk's personality. So an ugly jerk could still be successful because of his jerkish personality. | |
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The best thing about good looking people who are assholes about it is that beauty fades and one day they will wake up in a world of decrepetness unable to play the only game they learned and they suffer  2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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coolcat said: Spats said: Everyone i know knows women like that, and they know women like that, etc, etc. There are programs about it on tv all the damn time. I see it everytime i go to clubs all over the city. It's not just a problem in Toronto. Ask womem here and they will tell you they have dated jerks at some point. Well, the theory I've heard is that women are attracted to the self-confidence of the jerk, ie. the jerk's personality. So an ugly jerk could still be successful because of his jerkish personality. You'll find that most "Bad boys" are good looking. | |
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Spats said: coolcat said: Well, the theory I've heard is that women are attracted to the self-confidence of the jerk, ie. the jerk's personality. So an ugly jerk could still be successful because of his jerkish personality. You'll find that most "Bad boys" are good looking. good to know you're a good boy. | |
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Spats said: INSATIABLE said: Why do you believe that the women you know should represent the rest of the women in the world? Everyone i know knows women like that, and they know women like that, etc, etc. There are programs about it on tv all the damn time. I see it everytime i go to clubs all over the city. It's not just a problem in Toronto. Ask womem here and they will tell you they have dated jerks at some point. Y'know what? Okay. Because you're never going to find the exit door in your pretend little world, Truman, get over it. Get over the fact that ALL WOMEN ON THE PLANET HAVE DATED A MAN THAT DOESN'T FIT THE BILL. Who cares? Oh shit, my hat done fell off | |
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Spats said: coolcat said: Well, the theory I've heard is that women are attracted to the self-confidence of the jerk, ie. the jerk's personality. So an ugly jerk could still be successful because of his jerkish personality. You'll find that most "Bad boys" are good looking. LOL. Yup. Bad boys are mostly good lucking, and jerks are not. At least that's how I think women generaly rank it. Spats, Is your butthole mountain fresh and glacier cold by any chance? | |
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AsianBomb777 said: Spats said: You'll find that most "Bad boys" are good looking. LOL. Yup. Bad boys are mostly good lucking, and jerks are not. At least that's how I think women generaly rank it. Spats, Is your butthole mountain fresh and glacier cold by any chance?  | |
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IrresistibleB1tch said: luv4all7 said: Well in a super model's case sure. They both pay off. Law and modeling. If I could choose being a lawyer or a model, I'd pick being a model anyday. Just cuz thats what I have more interest in. And there is no reason that people can't do both anyway. Look at what Dan wrote. He clowns around, but he is a smart guy. He is successful, fun, AND good looking. Theres no law that you can't be good looking and a good person at the same time. of course there's no reason that people couldn't be both intelligent and good-looking. i'm just surprised that you would put putting energy into one's own look at the same level as somebody studying hard to help others. You talk a good game IB, but would you be so crazy about JerseyKRS if god forbid he looked like althom? | |
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AsianBomb777 said: Spats said: You'll find that most "Bad boys" are good looking. LOL. Yup. Bad boys are mostly good lucking, and jerks are not. At least that's how I think women generaly rank it. Spats, Is your butthole mountain fresh and glacier cold by any chance? Exactly. They don't realize that they are one and the same. | |
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AsianBomb777 said: IrresistibleB1tch said: of course there's no reason that people couldn't be both intelligent and good-looking. i'm just surprised that you would put putting energy into one's own look at the same level as somebody studying hard to help others. You talk a good game IB, but would you be so crazy about JerseyKRS if god forbid he looked like althom? i am so over you, IB. you said I was the only one! | |
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AsianBomb777 said: IrresistibleB1tch said: of course there's no reason that people couldn't be both intelligent and good-looking. i'm just surprised that you would put putting energy into one's own look at the same level as somebody studying hard to help others. You talk a good game IB, but would you be so crazy about JerseyKRS if god forbid he looked like althom? they're both too skinny for me... | |
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interesting phenomenon though, isn't it??
it happens to me and i have read it happens to others here too. we see one image in the mirror and when we see a photo of ourselves we see a more accurate image.  She couldn't stop crying 'cause she knew he was gone to stay | |
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