JustErin said:

Also, Erin I think people don't realize that both you and I have talked about our struggles with weight.

We just have a different "View" than other in that we believe we can do something about it... and have.

I don't understand the negativity coming from so many folks. It really ultimately can be achieved by almost anyone.

thesexofit said:

I never said fat was ugly, but I do hate the way I look when I am overweight...and yes, I have cared what other's think about me when it comes to my looks.

Like I said earlier, it's something I am trying to get over. We're not supposed to care about that stuff, right?

JustErin said:

Exactly. I've had issues like this (remember my "ahem" little man complex), so heavens knows i ain't perfect, i just hate seeing people upset about their weight and why they care so much about what others think about them? I just don't think that when u've gone through hard work, and become thin, ur gonna be any happier?

If u think u only feel attractive when ur thin(ner), then thats just bullshit. U can feel attractive anytime. I dont even feel attractive physically, but i like talking to people, i seem to be positive and if people don't want to talk to me because iam physically ugly or fat, or unhealthy looking (acne=unhealthy to some people) then fuck 'em.

I accept iam not good looking, I never will be, nor will i try to be as thats just money wasted and time gone, and I just don't care anymore. I ain't gonna lie to u, but u look pretty, So u've already gotta head start over some muppet like me. Iam not saying use me as inspiration LOL, just try and think differently that u can still be happy, even if unhealthy or fat.

I'm putting on weight but find it hilarious. I'll love being a fat bastard. I've enjoyed my time as a spunky Bowiesque young thruster. This isn't me anyway, just the shell I'm abusing and making a monkey of. Thank Christ ears don't get fat though. And fuck this sacramento bitch who ruined this Dylan bootleg by talking about how she wants to get banoffe pie after the show.

I swore I wasn't gonna add anymore to this thread, cuz now it seems that there are personal attacks goin' on.

But I just wanted to say that, while obesity contributes to heart disease, being underweight also adds to greater risc for heart attacks.

So all in all

Whether you are over weight or underweight "fat or skinny" that is not what is important.

It is a healthy lifestyle.

Eating right and excercising that matters.

:grouphuig:

thesexofit said:

I think it's awesome that you don't seem to care about what others think. That's a great mindset, but remember, I am not you. I have my own reasons (no matter how pathetic they may be) for thinking the way I do...but I'm working on it.

And to be honest, being thinner and healthier does make me more comfortable. I wouldn't say it makes me happier because being overweight isn't really interfering with my happiness. It's more a case of me being concerned and uncomfortable. Yes, I am uncomfortable with the way I look, I am also uncomfortable with the fact that even though I took a nutrition course in '99 (the last time I struggled with my weight), I recently allowed myself to gain weight from poor lifestyle choices. With the extra weight I put on in the last year I noticed things going wonky with my health and body and that concerned me. So I am doing something about it.

everytime I see this thread, i think of the rainbow children.

maybe with an accurate understanding of God and his law nothing really matters.

Thanks Erin

Actually, you'd be surprised how many orgnotes I'm getting from folks who agree but don't want to speak up.

AsianBomb777 said:

i didnt know nicole ritchie was an orger.

applekisses said:

Nope.
I stand by my opinion.

There are always going to be beautiful folks who just look better than the rest of us. ALWAYS.

And devalueing their beauty and saying that it's what's on the inside that counts, might make the less-than-beautiful feel better about themselves, but it does so through a bit of delusion.

What's on the outside is important too. Most people have the ability to look great, or at least alot better than they do currently. Yet, we in America think we should just villafy the fashion industry and sometimes even our beauty idols for looking better than us.

I say, it's their job to look better. Tyra Banks was born to look prettier than most other women. That's her lot in life. But would anybody want her to perform surgery on them? Or defend them in court? No, that's the job of smarter and more clever people. Everyone has their place.

I strongly beleive that we should look at those who are smarter, and they should inspire us to ...oh I don't know... try and learn more.

Those who are wiser, and say, that we ourselves can strive to become wiser.

And yes--those who are prettier, and say, we ourselve can strive to look our best.



Beauty may be in the eye of the beholder, but there's a reason Brad Pitt gets paid to take his shirt off and Drew Carry (though handsome and "cute") doesn't.