Number23 said:

Yeah, we're 2 opposites i guess. I don't get along with anyone here really. But iam OK with that. I can't communicate on the internet.

Anyway, back to the topic.....

AsianBomb777 said:

Awwwww. I would hope that you didn't piss anyone off, just by voicing your opinion. I don't think thats the case.

I haven't read every single word, just skimmed through.

But I have to agree, and I think any doctor would also agree that it is not healthy to be overweight, and that actually the majority of American consume WAY too many calories each day and eat the wrong foods.

Rapid weight loss in a short period of time is HARD work and is not necessarily healthy, but overall lifestyle changes and gradual weight loss (for an overweight person) is extremely healthy and beneficial. As any doctor in the world will tell you.

I'm not up on all the studies on genetics and all, but I'm sure that for the MOST part if you eat healthy and have an active lifestyle you are not going to be fat. The big boned theory is a crock. Yeah, some people have a larger build, but fat and overall stature are 2 totally different things.

FAT is not healthy. Heart Didease is a leading cause of death in women, and the more fat (especially around your waist) the more at risc you are for heart disease.

Anyways, that being said, weight loss is EXTREMELY difficult, but it is possible, and worth it, in the long run. Just like quitting smoking, quitting drinking, not being a crack head, not having unprotected sex, or whatever. It just is.

thesexofit said:

I don't think we're so different.

If the forum is going to end, I'd like one last word...

Kimora Lee Simmons....example of a beautiful woman, gorgeous body, wealthy, successful..Right? married to a high powered successful man.

She did an interview with Vanity Fair. The majority of her language was..Fuck..interspersed throughout the interview, along with "if any woman even looks at my man, I'll kick her ass" type of talk.
Appearance is not the end all. It still matters what's going on from the neck up. Physical attractiveness doesn't have staying power. And the men drawn to that don't have staying power either. (Her husband must have been totally humiliated and embarassed by the interview.)

On another note, no matter how many times I look in the mirror, I,m not any taller. The good thing is, I'm 100% OK with it. I even wear moccasins. Have a whole collection.
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Number23 said:

Are u actually rick wakeman?

thesexofit said:

No, I'm crap at Countdown. But we have the same lips, so I can see how you got confused.

Number23 said:

I hate how he left Yes. He is still a good keyboard player to me though. He sorta came back for a few albums playing with Yes in the late 80's/early 90's, but ? He has a shitload of solo albums though.

Yeah, i find countdown hard. Maths ones iam ok at though.

thesexofit said:

He just hated his bandmates. He used to eat takeaway chicken madras on stage during Howe's guitar solos and wink at the crowd, which got him sacked from Yes twice. He also had two heart attacks by the time he was 30. Interesting guy, Wakeman. Too talented for popular music, certainly.

luv4all7 said:

So, fat isn't healthy? Fat people still exist don't they? Iam just saying, its cool if u wanna lose weight. But being fat is fine with me. All those things in ur last paragraph ain't healthy, but its not gonna kill u, just like being fat ain't.

Pretty much every girl i've ever talked too, bitch about their weight. U can still look attractive if ur a little heavy or fat. Personally, the stick look is repulsive for me. I just hate how alot of people see fat as some horrible disease. Women in particular have this mindset that fat is bad.

thesexofit said:

He just hated his bandmates. He used to eat takeaway chicken madras on stage during Howe's guitar solos and wink at the crowd, which got him sacked from Yes twice. He also had two heart attacks by the time he was 30. Interesting guy, Wakeman. Too talented for popular music, certainly.

thesexofit said:

Ummmmm, yes all of those things can kill you, including being fat.

AsianBomb777 said:

Your beliefs are wrong.

I swear every skinny girl is depressed about their weight and thinks they are too fat. Thats some irony there.

CarrieMpls said:

Very wrong.

And I could go on and on about why I know that and the science to back it up, but WHO CARES? Nothing I say will convince people to give up the sheer joy that they get from feeling superior to others. It seems to be a basic human need. Far be it from me to take it away from them. Because, you see, it's going both ways.

thesexofit said:

I fucking hate that shit. Earlier this year I lived with a couple girls who were 5'5"-5'6"ish and weighed maybe 120-125 lbs, and they would constantly bitch about 'being fat'.

luv4all7 said:

Anything can kill u. people smoke like chimneys for decades and they are still around?

Anyway being fat ain't gonna kill u. There is waaaaay too much brainwashing into thinking that being healthy is the cure to all ur problems. U can be fat and still have an enjoyable life and live to 100 or whatever.

I swear every skinny girl is depressed about their weight and thinks they are too fat. Thats some irony there.

HereToRockYourWorld said:

I don't feel superior to fat people. Just thinner than them.

thesexofit said:

Being fat doesn't kill you, however it is a major contributing factor to many things that do kill you.

I want to be the healthiest I can be and I want to avoid as many health risks as I can, there is no shame in that at all.

I also do not smoke, but no one craps on me or calls me vain and superficial or accuse me of thinking I am superior to others (that do smoke) for wanting to be a non smoker.

evenstar3 said:

its really sad, but really skinny girls must think they are fat, as being the way they are requires u to not eat properly, exercise excessively and generally obsess about urself.

I dated a girl for a long time with bullimia. It was nasty and even scary sometimes. She was (still is) a dancer and whilst she was not very skinny, it was horrible what she would do. Of course, she kept it a secret from me and all her closest friends for a while. I found out though. U'd never think she would be bullimic.

AsianBomb777 said:

If you say so.

I wonder what it is that makes you feel so sure that you know the truth about this stuff, when for some of us, it's OUR LIFE. We have gained and lost weight, we have seen doctors, we have analyzed our diet, we care about our health. . . but somehow you have become an expert from the sidelines.

Does that strike you as even a little arrogant? Is it POSSIBLE that there are things about this that you don't understand? Is it possible that somebody who has lived with this as an issue for their entire life could know more about it than you do?

You. Don't. Know. What. You're. Talking. About.

I know you think you do. I know you will continue to believe that you do. But. you don't.

thesexofit said:

Being fat doesn't kill you, however it is a major contributing factor to many things that do kill you.

I want to be the healthiest I can be and I want to avoid as many health risks as I can, there is no shame in that at all.

I also do not smoke, but no one craps on me or calls me vain and superficial or accuse me of thinking I am superior to others (that do smoke) for wanting to be a non smoker.

HereToRockYourWorld said:

I do.

It's you who are wrong.

xplnyrslf said:

that's a shame it's one thing to swear and everything, but if you don't have a more refined vocabulary to use in formal situations it's pretty sad.

JustErin said:

Iam fine with that. But Ab was fucking way off about saying humans ain't meant to be fat etc.... too many self help books fuck u up. Alot of people think that fat=ugly. Maybe u do too? Maybe u feel unatractive putting on weight? If u do care, then that probably means u care about what others think about u? I couldn't care less if people see me as unatractive or fat. As i said, i ain't a femme pretty boy or whatever, so fuck it.

U said in ur first post:



"I truly hate the way I look now, and that is no joke. It absolutely effects who I feel I am as a person".

Sorry u feel that way. Iam not saying iam always happy and i always get laid. I've been turned down a fair few times LOL (even a hooker would turn me down probably). But if i took ur quote into action, i'd still be a virgin!

JustErin said:

Every time one of these threads comes up, you pull out the same damned argument.

And it is WRONG.

Please repeat after me: correlation does not equal causation.

CORRELATION DOES NOT EQUAL CAUSATION.

Smoking CAUSES lung cancer. Fat does not CAUSE cardiovascular disease. A person who is fat because they live an unhealthy lifestyle is more likely to get a number of diseases. Caused by the lifestyle. Not by the fat (the only real exception being diabetes, which is caused by both lifestyle and fat). A fat person who lives a healthy lifestyle is a HEALTHY PERSON.

Because this is really not that complciated, and yet people like you continue to hang on to your prejudice and misconceptions even after having your arguments completely torn to bits over and over, I can only go back to my superiority theory.

AsianBomb777 said:

Awesome. Well, I'd love to continue to have this very intelligent conversation with all of you, but I have a diet analysis project due next week in my nutrition class, and while it's basically done, I'd like to make it look pretty. If only I had the right attitude to make MYSELF pretty. . .

HereToRockYourWorld said:

If one is living a healthy lifestyle (eating well, eating proper portion sizes, exercising regularly) there is no reason to be overweight (medical conditions excluded).

What makes you think that you are such an expert on this topic? What makes you think that you know more than Dan? Or me?

By the things you are posting in this thread (assuming that you know it all and others know nothing), the only one that comes off as having a superiority complex is you.

JustErin said:

Iam fine with that. But Ab was fucking way off about saying humans ain't meant to be fat etc.... too many self help books fuck u up. Alot of people think that fat=ugly. Maybe u do too? Maybe u feel unatractive putting on weight? If u do care, then that probably means u care about what others think about u? I couldn't care less if people see me as unatractive or fat. As i said, i ain't a femme pretty boy or whatever, so fuck it.

U said in ur first post:



"I truly hate the way I look now, and that is no joke. It absolutely effects who I feel I am as a person".

Sorry u feel that way. Iam not saying iam always happy and i always get laid. I've been turned down a fair few times LOL (even a hooker would turn me down probably). But if i took ur quote into action, i'd still be a virgin!