Spookymuffin said:

ok

Natisse said:

Go EARLY!!! It'll prolly be crowded. The shows have been good so far.

Thanks, it's beautiful out today, too nice to be inside.

shellyevon said:

I'll take some pics

you're welcome sweetie you've been so kind to me

Spookymuffin said:

The only other ones close are London on the 4th and Brighton on the 6th (not free though), then they leave the UK for a tour through Europe.
You'd prolly like Bedouin Soundclash too, though they're not at all gloomy.

shellyevon said:

I do like them too - saw both those bands at Reading; they're great.

I'm saving for NIN right now though.

Nat...

I really, really hope you're okay. I worry about you.

Spooky is absolutely right - it's completely different for every individual; I wish I could give you the magic words that'll make you feel better but, ultimately, it really is only something you can work out. BUT that is where your friends come in - to support you, to be there for you at times like this, to hear you out, to be a sounding board. You are NOT alone, Nat - please don't forget that. We are all here whenever you need us. Just please talk when you need to, yeah?

All I can say is that when I'm in that position, it usually takes a reality check for me to get out of it. Sometimes the advice of a good friend who you know won't bullshit you. It also involves complete and utter honesty with yourself about what the central issue is. And then dealing with it. Which is the hardest, but most rewarding, part.

Only you will know what that issue is, Nat. But I have absolute faith that you will overcome this. No doubt whatsoever. You're one of the toughest little cookies I know. For many people, just the fact they're here, living and breathing another day on this planet, makes them far stronger than they ever realise. Just please remember that we're here whenever you need us.

Take care, love, and you know where I am if you need to speak.

I love you, Nat.

Spookymuffin said:

That's what NIN is for!!!!

gemini13 said:

Yes, I didn't want to specify for the risk of everyone going but it's the principal reason I listen to nin and why they mean so much to me. He drags me outta all the dark places.

onenitealone said:

I love you too hon thank you... I'm gonna take a guess at what's going through your mind now and I'm sorry we talked about this the other night and like I said I just can't articulate it properly to anyone hon. you hit the nail on the head when you say about realising what's REALLY behind it - that's something I'm really really trying to work out as you know. I do know you're there for me though and that comforts me and helps me more than you even realise

Natisse said:

ALWAYS, love.

And, no, I'm not necessarily thinking anything I'll be honest: I know from bitter experience that it really does help to talk about these things. Either with friends, a counsellor, whatever that outlet may be. But you can only do that when you're ready, I understand that. Just don't forget that we're here in the meantime.

If I had a quid for every single time a friend has said "I didn't know something was up with you! Why didn't you say??!"... So I can be just as guilty of it myself. I know how easier it feels to keep things in. Sometimes you don't want to trouble people, sometimes you don't know what the issue is. Sometimes you don't even know you that had an issue until after the event. I totally understand. But the one thing I've always learnt is that the minute I've talked to someone about it, I've always felt better. And why the hell didn't I do it earlier???! If *I* knew one of my friends was feeling that way, I'd be right there for them without question. I'd hate to think of them feeling that way. Yet, when it's yourself, we all change the rules....

I understand that difficulty of being unable to articulate it. And that makes it ten times' harder. But getting to that point involves being completely honest with yourself - facing up to things you really may not want to. And it can be a painful process, I'm not going to kid you. But the end result is worth it, Nat. And it'll make you an even stronger person than you are now. Trust me on that one.

I must go now but please feel free to get in touch, hun.

Take care of yourself,

Ax

onenitealone said:

as always you're right ...thank you hon


now go, have fun tonight will catch up with you tomorrow hon we've gotta organise something real soon

Spookymuffin said:

Me too!!!

I don't have any advice I could give that hasn't been mentioned here yet, so I just give you a and a .

Spookymuffin said:

Bedouin were really sick at Reading, they had a rough tour for the rest of the summer but are in really good form now. Too bad you can't see them this time. But they'll be back.

Understand about the NIN

shellyevon said:

Were you at Reading?

btw - just bought the nin tix.

shave your head!

you go to trusted friends and admit you are down and ask them for honest insights on you as a person


btw

you are a beautiful person with a good heart
you make other smile and laugh
you are kind and giving

caring ...loving

Spookymuffin said:

Nooo, I wasn't there, I just know about it, don't ask how
You're gonna have a blast at NIN.

shellyevon said:

I did last time. I huge blast of jizz into my pants.

Spookymuffin said:

Aw honey I really hope you're ok I havent read all of this, I really need new specs and I'm , well a bit crap

But honey, I'm on the other end of the phone
I'm sorry Please get in touch if you want to talk, I AM here

susannah said:

aww sweetie I know you are to be honest I'm feeling a LOT better now than when I started this thread early this afternoon...

Number23 said:

I love it.

I hope you'll be ok, Nat.

applekisses said:

thanks sweetie heard from a dear friend tonight after a long time and talked to another one not long ago... I have a smile on my face

CarrieMpls said:

Funny how I did that sober and now I'm drunk, I'm dizzy and spilling regret all over this ancient ash strewn carpet.

Number23 said:

regret is for the morning after, silly. revel in the moment now.

CarrieMpls said:

That sounds like a New Order lyric. Except for the 'silly'. Only Morrissey can sing the word 'silly' and bend the vowel enough to pull it off.

Number23 said:

then reel around the fountain as well.

CarrieMpls said:

You ever go onto the org,flick a quick glance to the right of the screen to see who's posting and roll your eyes? I know you probably do. You can orgnote me an answer.