NDRU said: superspaceboy said: I would say The Stand is a very important book. It's probably the most modern tale of Absolute Good VS Absolute Evil I can think of. It's really an epic story that deals with a virus that wipes out most of humanity. In this day and time, it is VERY relevant. It's also one of the few books that hinted toward the HIV virus before it was completly classified as such. Many books and stories have paid homage to the book in varied ways. What makes it classic is that it is the utlimate battle of good and evil. The book also uses many literary devices and has a lot of symbolism. The Shining less so, but it is considered a classic horror story. Again this story uses some very good literary devices and also has a lot of symbolism. For a story about alcoholism, it's pretty harrowing. My mom screamed aloud when she read this book and I almost did... That makes it a classic to me. yep, a classic doesn't have to be written like Finnegan's Wake. I think Star Trek is classic. It just has to work on whatever level. The Stand is so universally praised by fans. Some day I'll definitely get to it. It seems like the Dark Tower is alluding to it in places, but I don't know for sure The Dark Tower could have been a classic. But it's way too long and he has dropped the series (or finished it) to piuck it back up years later and the tone is off. I think it's just too sprawling and fantasy driven for most of his fans. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: anybody else remember the mini-series ABC had for the langoliers? it sucked...
The story was the bomb tho 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: anybody else remember the mini-series ABC had for the langoliers? it sucked...
The story was the bomb tho hell to the yeah, it was! | |
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superspaceboy said: NDRU said: yep, a classic doesn't have to be written like Finnegan's Wake. I think Star Trek is classic. It just has to work on whatever level. The Stand is so universally praised by fans. Some day I'll definitely get to it. It seems like the Dark Tower is alluding to it in places, but I don't know for sure The Dark Tower could have been a classic. But it's way too long and he has dropped the series (or finished it) to piuck it back up years later and the tone is off. I think it's just too sprawling and fantasy driven for most of his fans. I know fans who were disappointed by the ending (but really how could you not be? He'd have to pull the most amazing thing out of his ass to wrap up 3000 pages satisfactorily). I'm still with it through book 5, and I really like it so far. I think 4 & 5 are better than 3. I think the length is part of the appeal for me, but just because it's the biggest doesn't make it the best. It's more like a great TV show. Something to get into for a long while, but generally not as good as a great film. My Legacy
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: anybody else remember the mini-series ABC had for the langoliers? it sucked...
The story was the bomb tho I listened to that on tape (Willem Defoe read it) Cool story, but there was a New Twilight Zone episode that had nearly the same plot, and came before the Langoliers A couple woke up and their clock said 10:30. They thought they were late, but it turned out they'd woken up in the future that hadn't been completely built yet. It was still being prepared, piece by piece. But they'd jumped ahead by accident. The episode explained why we sometimes lose things. Sometimes the builders make mistakes. So one minute the keys literally aren't there. The next they're right in front of your face. Sort of the opposite of the Langoliers [Edited 10/30/06 13:01pm] My Legacy
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superspaceboy said: Anyone else get creeped out when they got a cold after reading the Stand. I got a cold while reading it and it freaked me out.
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: superspaceboy said: Anyone else get creeped out when they got a cold after reading the Stand. I got a cold while reading it and it freaked me out.
Captain Trips! i don't think i got a cold after reading it. That would be a cool promotion. Every book comes with viruses to freak you out! My Legacy
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NDRU said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: i don't think i got a cold after reading it. That would be a cool promotion. Every book comes with viruses to freak you out! | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: anybody else remember the mini-series ABC had for the langoliers? it sucked...
Wasn't that with Bronson Pinchot doing the Pac Man Fever? It was as bad as Lawnmower Man Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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Genius in the sense that he was one of the first ( that I know of) that wrote contemporary horror fiction that became ingrained in popular culture like no other horror author had done before him. Especially amongst young adults, he knows his market and thats who he writes for. I like him. | |
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superspaceboy said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: anybody else remember the mini-series ABC had for the langoliers? it sucked...
Wasn't that with Bronson Pinchot doing the Pac Man Fever? It was as bad as Lawnmower Man yeah, he was the snotty businessman who was kinda touched in the head, ripping up pieces of paper and staring into space... | |
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superspaceboy said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: anybody else remember the mini-series ABC had for the langoliers? it sucked...
Wasn't that with Bronson Pinchot doing the Pac Man Fever? It was as bad as Lawnmower Man I thought lawnmower man had way more legitimacy than the langoliers 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: superspaceboy said: Wasn't that with Bronson Pinchot doing the Pac Man Fever? It was as bad as Lawnmower Man I thought lawnmower man had way more legitimacy than the langoliers the crappy CGI effects they had in the langoliers when the monster-alien-langolier-thingies were eating the plane or whatever were total crap! i was staring at the screen like "omg, is that a ball of reynolds wrap attacking the plane?!" | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: I thought lawnmower man had way more legitimacy than the langoliers the crappy CGI effects they had in the langoliers when the monster-alien-langolier-thingies were eating the plane or whatever were total crap! i was staring at the screen like "omg, is that a ball of reynolds wrap attacking the plane?!" That would be pretty scary if they were forced to chew it. [Edited 10/30/06 13:09pm] My Legacy
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I think he's an author who has a lot in common with the guy whom we've all got to thank for being here. Insanely proflific, crazed with ideas, but ultimately cannot help but repeat himself due to a lack of true originality. He's not a trailbalzer like Poe or Dante - he's never given us the shock of the new - ie, create a universally influential and seimestic work of art which instantly hrenders all else in te genre redundnat. King's just an incredible recycler and master storyteller - even if his descriptive talents and dislogue flow are waning and clunky in old age. But fuck, that happens to us all. The Stand (uncut) and It are astonishing things to pull out of your brain. | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: I thought lawnmower man had way more legitimacy than the langoliers the crappy CGI effects they had in the langoliers when the monster-alien-langolier-thingies were eating the plane or whatever were total crap! i was staring at the screen like "omg, is that a ball of reynolds wrap attacking the plane?!" Yeah, it was pretty cheesy but I thought many of the effects in the lawmower man were very effective. I love the premise of that story I think many King fans would love Clive Barker. Check out "The Great and Secret Show" and it's sequels or Imajica and it's sequels. Those are amazing stories. Absolutely amazing and rivaling any of King's best works 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: superspaceboy said: Wasn't that with Bronson Pinchot doing the Pac Man Fever? It was as bad as Lawnmower Man I thought lawnmower man had way more legitimacy than the langoliers You're kidding me right? Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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NDRU said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: the crappy CGI effects they had in the langoliers when the monster-alien-langolier-thingies were eating the plane or whatever were total crap! i was staring at the screen like "omg, is that a ball of reynolds wrap attacking the plane?!" That would be pretty scary if they were forced to chew it. [Edited 10/30/06 13:09pm] "eeeeek, it's the langoliers!" "wait--i heard that if you bite 'em, they'll go away!" "okay...*chomp* ow! *chompchomp*...OWWW, damn!" "it's worse than i feared...langoliers are tinfoil!" "this one sorta smells like steak..." | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: I thought lawnmower man had way more legitimacy than the langoliers the crappy CGI effects they had in the langoliers when the monster-alien-langolier-thingies were eating the plane or whatever were total crap! i was staring at the screen like "omg, is that a ball of reynolds wrap attacking the plane?!" BTW I still have Langoliers on the VHS tape I copied it on. Haven't watched it since it aired. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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superspaceboy said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: I thought lawnmower man had way more legitimacy than the langoliers You're kidding me right? As a story and the way the TV show was produced, yes. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: superspaceboy said: The Stand Mini Series was AWFUL!!!! They need to make it into a full movie or something. it would be bad-ass if they made it into a full-length feature film and if they do it right. Right? His books that end us movies is pretty 50/50. ALLLL of the TV ones are utter crap. He should just say no when it comes to TV movies. Desperation should have been a movie for the violence alone. And the Stand would have to be Lord of the Rings length in order to do it right. I mean they had 8 hours of TV time and still could not work it over the 4 days they had. Oh bring me the head of whomever cast Molly Ringwald as the heroine Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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superspaceboy said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: the crappy CGI effects they had in the langoliers when the monster-alien-langolier-thingies were eating the plane or whatever were total crap! i was staring at the screen like "omg, is that a ball of reynolds wrap attacking the plane?!" BTW I still have Langoliers on the VHS tape I copied it on. Haven't watched it since it aired. you should watch it again for a laugh. i haven't seen it since it first aired, too. | |
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Number23 said: I think he's an author who has a lot in common with the guy whom we've all got to thank for being here. Insanely proflific, crazed with ideas, but ultimately cannot help but repeat himself due to a lack of true originality. He's not a trailbalzer like Poe or Dante - he's never given us the shock of the new - ie, create a universally influential and seimestic work of art which instantly hrenders all else in te genre redundnat. King's just an incredible recycler and master storyteller - even if his descriptive talents and dislogue flow are waning and clunky in old age. But fuck, that happens to us all. The Stand (uncut) and It are astonishing things to pull out of your brain.
I agree. His genius lies partially in the sheer volume of his storytelling, and his ability to keep it fun. He writes with style, but not style that will change the language exactly. I don't think that's entirely necessary, though. My Legacy
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Number23 said: I think he's an author who has a lot in common with the guy whom we've all got to thank for being here. Insanely proflific, crazed with ideas, but ultimately cannot help but repeat himself due to a lack of true originality. He's not a trailbalzer like Poe or Dante - he's never given us the shock of the new - ie, create a universally influential and seimestic work of art which instantly hrenders all else in te genre redundnat. King's just an incredible recycler and master storyteller - even if his descriptive talents and dislogue flow are waning and clunky in old age. But fuck, that happens to us all. The Stand (uncut) and It are astonishing things to pull out of your brain.
He mostly recycles himself...mostly. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: NDRU said: That would be pretty scary if they were forced to chew it. [Edited 10/30/06 13:09pm] "eeeeek, it's the langoliers!" "wait--i heard that if you bite 'em, they'll go away!" "okay...*chomp* ow! *chompchomp*...OWWW, damn!" "it's worse than i feared...langoliers are tinfoil!" "this one sorta smells like steak..." My Legacy
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superspaceboy said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: it would be bad-ass if they made it into a full-length feature film and if they do it right. Right? His books that end us movies is pretty 50/50. ALLLL of the TV ones are utter crap. He should just say no when it comes to TV movies. Desperation should have been a movie for the violence alone. And the Stand would have to be Lord of the Rings length in order to do it right. I mean they had 8 hours of TV time and still could not work it over the 4 days they had. Oh bring me the head of whomever cast Molly Ringwald as the heroine Yeah, his stuff belongs in theaters because there are way too many considerations that TV has to consider, the major one being censorship. His stories need to be fleshed out in their all their vulgar, frightening and disgusting glory 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: superspaceboy said: Right? His books that end us movies is pretty 50/50. ALLLL of the TV ones are utter crap. He should just say no when it comes to TV movies. Desperation should have been a movie for the violence alone. And the Stand would have to be Lord of the Rings length in order to do it right. I mean they had 8 hours of TV time and still could not work it over the 4 days they had. Oh bring me the head of whomever cast Molly Ringwald as the heroine Yeah, his stuff belongs in theaters because there are way too many considerations that TV has to consider, the major one being censorship. His stories need to be fleshed out in their all their vulgar, frightening and disgusting glory I think it also takes good acting & good direction to make them not completely ridiculous. He's generally working with the supernatural, and it's not easy to pull that off effectively. My Legacy
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superspaceboy said: Number23 said: I think he's an author who has a lot in common with the guy whom we've all got to thank for being here. Insanely proflific, crazed with ideas, but ultimately cannot help but repeat himself due to a lack of true originality. He's not a trailbalzer like Poe or Dante - he's never given us the shock of the new - ie, create a universally influential and seimestic work of art which instantly hrenders all else in te genre redundnat. King's just an incredible recycler and master storyteller - even if his descriptive talents and dislogue flow are waning and clunky in old age. But fuck, that happens to us all. The Stand (uncut) and It are astonishing things to pull out of your brain.
He mostly recycles himself...mostly. It's easy to snipe, but I'd say there are only four artists in the history of the human race who have continually reinvented their creative thought and never cheerleaded blue mould and spider eggs. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: superspaceboy said: You're kidding me right? As a story and the way the TV show was produced, yes. I never saw Lawnmower Man, but the story was really short. I always wondered how they stretched it out into 2 hours. My Legacy
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