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Printableshellyevon said: Spats said: It is not a person's responsibility to satisfy their girlfriend or boyfriend.It's great if it happens but it's not their responsibility. We are only responsible for ourselves. If something makes the person uncomfrotable they should not have to do it or be asked to do it. I have never asked a girlfriend to do anything that would make her uncomfortable. I expect the same in return. Your point about not expecting someone to do something uncomfortable is reasonable. But the best relatioships and sex happen when both people try to think more about the other person's happiness. The one of the best parts of sex is knowing you completely satified your partner. I mean. you can take care of your own needs by yourself. I completely disagree. That's the reason so many relationships fail, imo. I'm not saying to not think about making the other person happy, but I feel that putting someone else before yourself is very foolish. However, when it comes to sex, yes, satisfying your partner is absolutely one of the best things about it, but it should not be at the expense of one's comfort. If partners are at odds over what they like in bed, it's better to part ways and find more suitable partners. People want (and sometimes need) different things to be fully satisfied sexually...from the sweetest, most romantic kiss to the utterly bizarre. You can not expect someone who is uncomfortable with an act to do it simply because it gets the other person off. That's not an equal relationship at all, it's totally one sided. I suppose you could say that the other person could then do something in return that they didn't like just to please their partner, but what a shitty sexlife it would be when both partners are doing things that turn them off. Like it said, it's best to find a partner that jives with your needs. | |
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Spats said: shellyevon said: Your point about not expecting someone to do something uncomfortable is reasonable. But the best relatioships and sex happen when both people try to think more about the other person's happiness. The one of the best parts of sex is knowing you completely satified your partner. I mean. you can take care of your own needs by yourself. Yeah but the experience is not going to be very good if one of the people wants to throw up because they think going downtown is gross. Try to make up for it by doing something else for her. There's a million other things you can do FOR her besides just going "downtown". Think sex partner not sex object. "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"-Dr Seuss
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shellyevon said: Spats said: Yeah but the experience is not going to be very good if one of the people wants to throw up because they think going downtown is gross. Try to make up for it by doing something else for her. There's a million other things you can do FOR her besides just going "downtown". Think sex partner not sex object. Exactly, something that you both enjoy. | |
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JustErin said: shellyevon said: Your point about not expecting someone to do something uncomfortable is reasonable. But the best relatioships and sex happen when both people try to think more about the other person's happiness. The one of the best parts of sex is knowing you completely satified your partner. I mean. you can take care of your own needs by yourself. I completely disagree. That's the reason so many relationships fail, imo. I'm not saying to not think about making the other person happy, but I feel that putting someone else before yourself is very foolish. However, when it comes to sex, yes, satisfying your partner is absolutely one of the best things about it, but it should not be at the expense of one's comfort. If partners are at odds over what they like in bed, it's better to part ways and find more suitable partners. People want (and sometimes need) different things to be fully satisfied sexually...from the sweetest, most romantic kiss to the utterly bizarre. You can not expect someone who is uncomfortable with an act to do it simply because it gets the other person off. That's not an equal relationship at all, it's totally one sided. I suppose you could say that the other person could then do something in return that they didn't like just to please their partner, but what a shitty sexlife it would be when both partners are doing things that turn them off. Like it said, it's best to find a partner that jives with your needs. Oh, I didn't mean it to sound so one sided. I didn't mean that people shouldn't think of their own likes and dislikes.Just being very aware of the other person. It's definitely a process of give and take,,, and learnng what your partner likes. Not everyone is compatable, that's for sure. "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"-Dr Seuss
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shellyevon said: JustErin said: I completely disagree. That's the reason so many relationships fail, imo. I'm not saying to not think about making the other person happy, but I feel that putting someone else before yourself is very foolish. However, when it comes to sex, yes, satisfying your partner is absolutely one of the best things about it, but it should not be at the expense of one's comfort. If partners are at odds over what they like in bed, it's better to part ways and find more suitable partners. People want (and sometimes need) different things to be fully satisfied sexually...from the sweetest, most romantic kiss to the utterly bizarre. You can not expect someone who is uncomfortable with an act to do it simply because it gets the other person off. That's not an equal relationship at all, it's totally one sided. I suppose you could say that the other person could then do something in return that they didn't like just to please their partner, but what a shitty sexlife it would be when both partners are doing things that turn them off. Like it said, it's best to find a partner that jives with your needs. Oh, I didn't mean it to sound so one sided. I didn't mean that people shouldn't think of their own likes and dislikes.Just being very aware of the other person. It's definitely a process of give and take,,, and learnng what your partner likes. Not everyone is compatable, that's for sure. I definitely agree with you. Communication in a relationship is key...including the sexual side of it. You should know your partner's likes and dislikes and if you are cool with that, all will go well.  | |
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purplerein said: i picture spats laying flat on his back, jerking off...as his sack mate lays on his/her back jerking off. what a party. That's what I'm looking for. Orgnote me. | |
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Spats said: purplerein said: in that one line, you attack other men who are in love and express it. you call them 'sissy boys'...i pity you spats, I really do. I can't help it if i hate to see guys act silly like that. There is nothing more pathetic than watching a guy get down on his knees and asking a woman to marry him at one of those sporting events or in general, or doing kissy face stuff in public. Or poems and flowers, etc. It's sissy behavior, Hmmm. I'm not down with that stuff either...but I wouldn't necessarily define it as "sissy" behaviour; some people like that stuff; some don't.  You just gotta find a girl that has compatible preferences as you. But if you have a mental checklist that you're hoping to fill; you're going to be looking a looonngg time. No one is perfect so you have to take a little bad with the good.The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp. | |
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jone70 said: Spats said: I can't help it if i hate to see guys act silly like that. There is nothing more pathetic than watching a guy get down on his knees and asking a woman to marry him at one of those sporting events or in general, or doing kissy face stuff in public. Or poems and flowers, etc. It's sissy behavior, Hmmm. I'm not down with that stuff either...but I wouldn't necessarily define it as "sissy" behaviour; some people like that stuff; some don't. You just gotta find a girl that has compatible preferences as you. But if you have a mental checklist that you're hoping to fill; you're going to be looking a looonngg time. No one is perfect so you have to take a little bad with the good.I do have a checklist. If you don't you will find yourself settling. | |
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Spats said: jone70 said: Hmmm. I'm not down with that stuff either...but I wouldn't necessarily define it as "sissy" behaviour; some people like that stuff; some don't. You just gotta find a girl that has compatible preferences as you. But if you have a mental checklist that you're hoping to fill; you're going to be looking a looonngg time. No one is perfect so you have to take a little bad with the good.I do have a checklist. If you don't you will find yourself settling. Yep sure will.....settling for getting none.....eh ???? | |
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purplerein said: Spats said: It is not a person's responsibility to satisfy their girlfriend or boyfriend.It's great if it happens but it's not their responsibility. We are only respnsible for ourselves. If something makes the person uncomfrotable they should not have to do it or be asked to do it. I have never asked a girlfriend to do anything that would make her uncomfortable. I expect the same in return. i picture spats laying flat on his back, jerking off...as his sack mate lays on his/her back jerking off. what a party.  !!!RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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7in9 said: Spats said: I do have a checklist. If you don't you will find yourself settling. Yep sure will.....settling for getting none.....eh ???? Being alone is better than settling for whatever you can get. | |
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Spats said: 7in9 said: Yep sure will.....settling for getting none.....eh ???? Being alone is better than settling for whatever you can get. now this i agree with 100%  | |
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purplerein said: Spats said: It is not a person's responsibility to satisfy their girlfriend or boyfriend.It's great if it happens but it's not their responsibility. We are only respnsible for ourselves. If something makes the person uncomfrotable they should not have to do it or be asked to do it. I have never asked a girlfriend to do anything that would make her uncomfortable. I expect the same in return. i picture spats laying flat on his back, jerking off...as his sack mate lays on his/her back jerking off. what a party. you're the king of counter-comments, rein! keep it up!  | |
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Spats said: jone70 said: Hmmm. I'm not down with that stuff either...but I wouldn't necessarily define it as "sissy" behaviour; some people like that stuff; some don't. You just gotta find a girl that has compatible preferences as you. But if you have a mental checklist that you're hoping to fill; you're going to be looking a looonngg time. No one is perfect so you have to take a little bad with the good.I do have a checklist. If you don't you will find yourself settling. I think everyone has some sort of criteria but there comes a point when you realize not everything on the list might reside in one person--what if a babe has brown eyes instead of blue; but meets all the other criteria? Do you kick her to the curb? I'm not saying "settle" but no one is perfect and if you are searching for the "perfect" girl you'll never find her. Everyone has flaws, it comes down to what you're willing to compromise on. Not everything should be non-negotiable. How old are you, out of curiousity? The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp. | |
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What happened to the Spats/Stripper topic? It was here yesterday. What did I miss...anyone know?? The one with the picture of a stripper on a pole and a duck costume in the background. [Edited 10/29/06 6:29am] | |
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xplnyrslf said: What happened to the Spats/Stripper topic? It was here yesterday. What did I miss...anyone know?? The one with the picture of a stripper on a pole and a duck costume in the background.
[Edited 10/29/06 6:29am] they deleted it...I can't find the pic....i'll try and google it again | |
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xplnyrslf said: What happened to the Spats/Stripper topic? It was here yesterday. What did I miss...anyone know?? The one with the picture of a stripper on a pole and a duck costume in the background.
[Edited 10/29/06 6:29am] Nobody wants to see that picture again. [Edited 10/29/06 9:08am] | |
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Spats said: xplnyrslf said: What happened to the Spats/Stripper topic? It was here yesterday. What did I miss...anyone know?? The one with the picture of a stripper on a pole and a duck costume in the background.
[Edited 10/29/06 6:29am] Nobody wants to see that picture again. [Edited 10/29/06 9:08am] I do, I missed it first time! | |
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sj1600 said: Spats said: Nobody wants to see that picture again. [Edited 10/29/06 9:08am] I do, I missed it first time! Me too | |
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jone70 said: Spats said: I do have a checklist. If you don't you will find yourself settling. I think everyone has some sort of criteria but there comes a point when you realize not everything on the list might reside in one person--what if a babe has brown eyes instead of blue; but meets all the other criteria? Do you kick her to the curb? I'm not saying "settle" but no one is perfect and if you are searching for the "perfect" girl you'll never find her. Everyone has flaws, it comes down to what you're willing to compromise on. Not everything should be non-negotiable. How old are you, out of curiousity? I am not so picky that i need a certain eye color. I long ago gave up on a "Perfect girl". I have been around enough women to know that isn't ever gonna happen.  I will compromise depending on what it is. I have relaxed a bit on the hair color issue. I have usually prefered blondes but the babe has brown hair and her boobies are not as big as i usually like. So i have compromised on those two things.
But they have to be pretty. Feminine They have to have full lips Good Table and Eating manners In good shape A modern women who does not believe in gender roles (this is a real hard one to find) They have to be nice | |
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Spats said: jone70 said: I think everyone has some sort of criteria but there comes a point when you realize not everything on the list might reside in one person--what if a babe has brown eyes instead of blue; but meets all the other criteria? Do you kick her to the curb? I'm not saying "settle" but no one is perfect and if you are searching for the "perfect" girl you'll never find her. Everyone has flaws, it comes down to what you're willing to compromise on. Not everything should be non-negotiable. How old are you, out of curiousity? I am not so picky that i need a certain eye color. I long ago gave up on a "Perfect girl". I have been around enough women to know that isn't ever gonna happen. I will compromise depending on what it is. I have relaxed a bit on the hair color issue. I have usually prefered blondes but the babe has brown hair and her boobies are not as big as i usually like. So i have compromised on those two things.
But they have to be pretty. Feminine They have to have full lips Good Table and Eating manners In good shape A modern women who does not believe in gender roles (this is a real hard one to find) They have to be nice lots of luck to you spats, i'm done paying attention to you. | |
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purplerein said: Spats said: I am not so picky that i need a certain eye color. I long ago gave up on a "Perfect girl". I have been around enough women to know that isn't ever gonna happen. I will compromise depending on what it is. I have relaxed a bit on the hair color issue. I have usually prefered blondes but the babe has brown hair and her boobies are not as big as i usually like. So i have compromised on those two things.
But they have to be pretty. Feminine They have to have full lips Good Table and Eating manners In good shape A modern women who does not believe in gender roles (this is a real hard one to find) They have to be nice lots of luck to you spats, i'm done paying attention to you. I assume judging by your reaction that you are a little more relaxed on those issues???? How are those things unreasonable?????  | |
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Spats said: purplerein said: lots of luck to you spats, i'm done paying attention to you. I assume judging by your reaction that you are a little more relaxed on those issues???? How are those things unreasonable????? And the trolling begins | |
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7in9 said: Spats said: I assume judging by your reaction that you are a little more relaxed on those issues???? How are those things unreasonable????? And the trolling begins There is no trolling. He is acting like the things on my list are unrealistic. I think they are reasonable things. | |
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Spats said: 7in9 said: And the trolling begins There is no trolling. He is acting like the things on my list are unrealistic. I think they are reasonable things. Good for you. | |
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Spats said: xplnyrslf said: What happened to the Spats/Stripper topic? It was here yesterday. What did I miss...anyone know?? The one with the picture of a stripper on a pole and a duck costume in the background.
[Edited 10/29/06 6:29am] Nobody wants to see that picture again. [Edited 10/29/06 9:08am] But Spatsy!! You looked so cute in that duck costume.  | |
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Spats said: jone70 said: I think everyone has some sort of criteria but there comes a point when you realize not everything on the list might reside in one person--what if a babe has brown eyes instead of blue; but meets all the other criteria? Do you kick her to the curb? I'm not saying "settle" but no one is perfect and if you are searching for the "perfect" girl you'll never find her. Everyone has flaws, it comes down to what you're willing to compromise on. Not everything should be non-negotiable. How old are you, out of curiousity? I am not so picky that i need a certain eye color. I long ago gave up on a "Perfect girl". I have been around enough women to know that isn't ever gonna happen. I will compromise depending on what it is. I have relaxed a bit on the hair color issue. I have usually prefered blondes but the babe has brown hair and her boobies are not as big as i usually like. So i have compromised on those two things.
But they have to be pretty. Feminine They have to have full lips Good Table and Eating manners In good shape A modern women who does not believe in gender roles (this is a real hard one to find) They have to be nice What? She doesn't need to bathe? You left out personal hygiene. | |
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xplnyrslf said: Spats said: I am not so picky that i need a certain eye color. I long ago gave up on a "Perfect girl". I have been around enough women to know that isn't ever gonna happen. I will compromise depending on what it is. I have relaxed a bit on the hair color issue. I have usually prefered blondes but the babe has brown hair and her boobies are not as big as i usually like. So i have compromised on those two things.
But they have to be pretty. Feminine They have to have full lips Good Table and Eating manners In good shape A modern women who does not believe in gender roles (this is a real hard one to find) They have to be nice What? She doesn't need to bathe? You left out personal hygiene. Oh, and nice teeth. A cute nose. And no scars. | |
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Spats said: xplnyrslf said: What? She doesn't need to bathe? You left out personal hygiene. Oh, and nice teeth. A cute nose. And no scars. The list keeps getting longer. Left out tattoo/piercings. | |
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xplnyrslf said: Spats said: Oh, and nice teeth. A cute nose. And no scars. The list keeps getting longer. Left out tattoo/piercings. There ya go. 2 more. I want them around my height as well. If they are to short i will be bending over all the damn time and if they are too taller than me it will look stupid when we are walking down the street. | |
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