CarrieMpls said:

I told you not to substitute food for ciggies.

You can lose weight; you can't lose a tracheotomy.

Ace said:

Now that's not entirely fair...it is clinically proven that smoking does speed up your metabolism so quitting slows it down a bit...that can have something to do with her weightgain too. It may not be Carrie's fault.

applekisses said:

Yes. Anyone that gives up smoking puts on weight. ANYONE.

The solution is to exercise. And it's the only solution. I smoke and exercise so I'm kinda stupid.

Spookymuffin said:

Wrong; I'm living proof.

Spookymuffin said:

I'm already exercising. The reason (well, last straw) why I quit smoking was cause the morning after a particularly smoke-y night out I was having a hard time breathing in yoga class.

It's all food. I'm totally substituting with food and it SUCKS. I just don't know how anyone does it.

I mean, for real!! No ice cream, no junk food, no smoking, minimal drinking (cause of the calories and cause it makes me want to smoke), minimal yummy food. How the fuck do people do it? These are the things that make life worth living (or at the least, bearable at the worst of times). How the hell do you just not have anything fun ever???

CarrieMpls said:

You have much to offer to yourself..

You are beautiful, and it shows through, and through...

Madam, you are so much stronger than you realize.

You resolved to quit smoking, and you have. You have not smoked for three weeks. Three weeks! That is a wonderful, admirable and extremely difficult accomplishment - yet, you did it. That took courage and determination.

In light of the above, the weight you have gained in the process is merely a pesky incidental. It is an annoyance, and I do appreciate its effect on you, but don't allow it to influence you. If you can stay strong this long about smoking, there is no doubts you shall be able to shed any extra weight you might gain during the transition to non-smoker. Keep drawing upon that amazing strength, young lady. There are reserves there inside you.

Keep in mind also that a healthy body is a beautiful and special gift, no matter what size. Let the healthy body be your ultimate goal, not a particular shape or weight.

You can do it.

CarrieMpls said:

I see no straight men have ventured to address this issue...

I know I'm not a guy and thus have limited sway here, but I'd rather date a fat nonsmoker. By far. A million times over. And it's not because I find fat especially asesthetically appealing, either. It's because I find smokey breath and hair and clothes to be really, really yucky.

Not to mention that you were, in fact, absolutely gorgeous 40 pounds ago.

But, you're not gonna go back there, so whatevs.


It sucks 'cause you do have to find other things that are as satisfying to you as food and cigs. And we're biologically wired to find food more satisfying than anything. With the possible exception of sex, which doesn't require nicotine, and which burns calories. Become a total slut!

And, ok, find active things to do that you actually enjoy (sounds like you've started trying that with the yoga bit). Spend the money you'd spend on cigs to take up some hobby that you might not have otherwise 'cause of the $. Take a fun class. Get a puppy. Volunteer.


I know, shut up, you know all of that and just want to whine. I'm glad you're whining rather than smoking.

I just smoke on weekends and close deaths and I can remember thre last bit of exercise I did - a star jump in fourth year PE when i was 14. I thought 'Fuck this' and lit a fag. On the Saturday. Weekends, carrie. Five healthy days and two enjoyable self-destructive ones. It's all about balance. Non-smokers are usually dull as fuck. And don;t get me started on non-drinkers. I don't trust their thought processes.

applekisses said:

This is true.

I read a recent article in Men's Health magazine about this very subject. It stated that while one is an active smoker, one's metabolism is faster because the body is continually trying to repair the damage sustained by smoking. That constant repair burns more calories. When one ceases to smoke, the metabolism slows again because constant tissue repair is not occuring. Therefore, the body's daily requirement of calories lessens from what it needed previously.

does that mean you made it through the invasion???

that would have been very difficult so you should be very proud!

if you gave in now you would kick yourself in the ass so hard for all the hard work you have done.
it's not failing at your weight loss... it's succeeding at your battle to be a non smoker.

i lost 50 and have put half of it back on. i know why... so i'm disappointed but i'm not freaking out. i just have to get my ass back to the pool.

heretorockyourworld said:

agreed

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applekisses said:

I would have to go with the thin pretty smoker. I am not a fan of smoking but i am a fan of pretty.

emm said:

Actually, no. I didn't make it through the invasion. I had 3 cigarettes. They were all absolutely disgusting. But so, so yummy at the same time.

Number23 said:

That's about me too...I go through days and days without smoking...my friends wonder how I do it...and then on the weekend I allow myself to endulge...which ends up being about four cigs a day.

* According to Dr. Ralph Heinicke, xeronine is an alkaloid synthesized in the body and plays a key role at cellular level. When we take in foreign alkaloids like nicotine, cocaine, heroin and caffeine, which mimic xeronine's natural function, the body's proteins adapt to them and alter the need for xeronine to an unnatural need for foreign alkaloids. To overcome this addiction, flood your body with xeronine just like you originally flooded the body with foreign alkaloid.

At present noni is known to be the best source of proxeronine (a precursor to xeronine).

To treat this addiction, place a few drops of noni juice under the tongue every hour. This will release proxeronine straight into the bloodstream from the soft tissue under the tongue to the brain. Repeating this procedure every hour will help flood the brain with this useful compound and allow the brain to subsequently prefer xeronine than nicotine.

Note: The body does not get addicted to xeronine and thus noni is not addictive.

In 76 Ways to Use Noni Fruit Juice (Direct Source, 2001) Ms. Isabelle Navarre-Brown shares several quit-smoking techniques using noni fruit juice, noni skin lotion, noni seed oil, and noni liquid concentrate. Noni will reduce the physical and psychological need for cigarettes.

More on noni, xeronine and Dr. Heinicke - http://www.tipsofallsorts.com/noni.html



aside from using noni for that, you can also take it before a night of drinking and not have a hang-over. Aside from its many many uses. This stuff WORKS.

its funny it mentions heroin. I knew a heroin addict who would take this stuff for his withdraw symptoms, and be fine. We all have heard/seen in movies anyway how severe with-draws from heroin can be.

applekisses said:

I was just being a facetious cheeky bastard, but that's the org persona I've adopted and kept like a wee baby sparrow under my wing until it's time to boot its arse off the branch and find its own way in this cancerous ecosystem. Anyway. I go through about four on weekends too. Lighters.

Number23 said:

And there I was thinking you're one of us. I'm a 14 a day man. I don't know I can pay for it.

Spookymuffin said:

Stop talking about smoking all of you!

CarrieMpls said:

GET THE HELL OF THIS THREAD IT'S NOT YOURS ANYMORE, FAGLESS!

By the way Carrie I saw your pictures at the get together, you look stunning.

sag10 said:

Thank you.

Spookymuffin said:

It's my thread and I'll get snippy if I want to!

CarrieMpls said:

Spookymuffin said:

You count? x God'sdreams

Number23 said:

Spookymuffin said:

That's a sexy fucking picture. It's time for me to get sexy on the org. I'v been hiding behind my intelligence too long. It's time for sex.

Number23 said:

I'd like to see that.

Number23 said:

I live a highly regimented, institutionalised life. Literally comparable to prison. Of course I fucking count.