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PrintableIrresistibleB1tch said: Ace said: But how cutting-edge was it? At its core, was it not just another piece of entertainment that suggested that "bad boys" can be tamed, validated the idea that a woman's happiness is dependent upon a man, and implied that it's psychologically sound to obsess about somebody who's "just not that into you"?  Just like on the Sopranos. | |
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Illustrator said: IrresistibleB1tch said: Just like on the Sopranos.  | |
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Ace said: reneGade20 said: and I really hate that such a cutting edge show ended on such a predictable, sappy note...
But how cutting-edge was it? At its core, was it not just another piece of entertainment that suggested that "bad boys" can be tamed, validated the idea that a woman's happiness is dependent upon a man, and implied that it's psychologically sound to obsess about somebody who's "just not that into you"? I know plenty of women who think like that....and they weren't fans or viewers of the show...the idea of a tameable bad boy who is the keystone of a woman's happiness, regardless of whether he likes u or not is one that has been around a lot longer than TV....as well as the belief that if you're persistent enough u can change a person....bad boys become model husbands if you try hard enough right?  He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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Ace said: reneGade20 said: and I really hate that such a cutting edge show ended on such a predictable, sappy note...
But how cutting-edge was it? At its core, was it not just another piece of entertainment that suggested that "bad boys" can be tamed, validated the idea that a woman's happiness is dependent upon a man, and implied that it's psychologically sound to obsess about somebody who's "just not that into you"? I think the only cutting edge character was Samantha, the predatory female who toyed with men the way some men do with women. She wasn't out to reform anyone but just get her kicks wherever and whenever she felt like it. The only person she pleased was herself. .. [Edited 10/12/06 16:08pm] | |
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Slow ur roll Tito....I meant cutting edge in comparison to what passes for TV these days....not socially speaking....I agree that Sam was the shit as a woman who got her kicks because thats what she liked and damn the torpedoes....but even she went through a period where they wrote her character like the stereotypical woman who pines for a man to make her whole....thankfully it didn't last long.... He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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CarrieMpls said: Ace said: But how cutting-edge was it? At its core, was it not just another piece of entertainment that suggested that "bad boys" can be tamed, validated the idea that a woman's happiness is dependent upon a man, and implied that it's psychologically sound to obsess about somebody who's "just not that into you"? But the fashion!  |
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LleeLlee said: I think the only cutting edge character was Samantha, the predatory female who toyed with men the way I do. She, like myself, wasn't out to reform anyone but just get her kicks wherever and whenever she felt like it. The only person she pleased was herself. Which is what I'll be doing shortly, when I head out to the nearest pub to pick up the first man I see with a sizeable bulge in his trousers.
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purplerein said: don't get me wrong Renegade, Borgie is nice to the army, but rotten to the corp.
that is totally my new sig! Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton | |
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Ace said: Funny show, but fucked-up message (it's somehow romantic to pine after someone who treats you like shit 'cause - don't worry - they'll eventually come to their senses and you'll live happily ever after
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Show was ostensibly about "modern" women, but - in the end - it was just another fairy tale, no? thats why i didn't like when she ended up with mr.big [Edited 10/12/06 21:02pm] | |
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luv4all7 said: Oh man me too. I can only go on reruns for so long.
Thee BEST Samantha moment EVER When she goes Excuse Me and starts grabbing her crotch at breakfast and Miranda is like WHAT was THAT and shes like I'm growing my hair out.  OMGI have tons of fave moments of Samantha but the most memorable for me was when she spoke at the Breast Cancer gala and when her bush was dyed clown hair orange. I loved her and Smith together perfect togetherDon't take life too seriously, noone gets out alive. | |
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I miss having sex IN my city.  | |
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I miss it too it's never repeated on tv here! If it is, it's like once a week late at night, not like Friends which is on every day!
I'm thinking bout buying the DVDs, but thats a lotta money... | |
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susannah said: I miss it too
it's never repeated on tv here! If it is, it's like once a week late at night, not like Friends which is on every day!
I'm thinking bout buying the DVDs, but thats a lotta money... I have the first 3 seasons on VHS and the rest on dvd. I'm planning to sell them all and buy the mega pack with all seasons. I keep meaning to do it... I should soon.  |
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CarrieMpls said: susannah said: I miss it too
it's never repeated on tv here! If it is, it's like once a week late at night, not like Friends which is on every day!
I'm thinking bout buying the DVDs, but thats a lotta money... I have the first 3 seasons on VHS and the rest on dvd. I'm planning to sell them all and buy the mega pack with all seasons. I keep meaning to do it... I should soon. I have like 2 DVDs - IN TOTAL!! I only just got a DVD player this summer - and that was because it was a gift! All I have is old VHS, that I recorded off the tv. That said, I have quite a lot of random tv shows I can watch! I should just bite the bullet and throw them out. 
I've just never been one for spending money on videos or dvds...I'm still kinda not... | |
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susannah said: CarrieMpls said: I have the first 3 seasons on VHS and the rest on dvd. I'm planning to sell them all and buy the mega pack with all seasons. I keep meaning to do it... I should soon. I have like 2 DVDs - IN TOTAL!! I only just got a DVD player this summer - and that was because it was a gift! All I have is old VHS, that I recorded off the tv. That said, I have quite a lot of random tv shows I can watch! I should just bite the bullet and throw them out.
I've just never been one for spending money on videos or dvds...I'm still kinda not... Once I joined netflix I stopped by dvd-buying habit. But there are still certain things I like to have on hand. |
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irrisistableB said: luv4all7 said: Oh man me too. I can only go on reruns for so long.
Thee BEST Samantha moment EVER When she goes Excuse Me and starts grabbing her crotch at breakfast and Miranda is like WHAT was THAT and shes like I'm growing my hair out. OMGI have tons of fave moments of Samantha but the most memorable for me was when she spoke at the Breast Cancer gala and when her bush was dyed clown hair orange. I loved her and Smith together perfect togetherwhen she whipped that wig off her head and stood proud was probably the best moment of the entire series. Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton | |
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joshybostel said: I miss having sex IN my city.
where's your city?  Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton | |
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CarrieMpls said: susannah said: I have like 2 DVDs - IN TOTAL!! I only just got a DVD player this summer - and that was because it was a gift! All I have is old VHS, that I recorded off the tv. That said, I have quite a lot of random tv shows I can watch! I should just bite the bullet and throw them out.
I've just never been one for spending money on videos or dvds...I'm still kinda not... Once I joined netflix I stopped by dvd-buying habit. But there are still certain things I like to have on hand. Whats netflix? downloads? | |
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susannah said: CarrieMpls said: Once I joined netflix I stopped by dvd-buying habit. But there are still certain things I like to have on hand. Whats netflix? downloads?like renting movies, but no store. they mail the dvd to you. when you are done with it, you mail it back, and they send you the next one on your list. best invention EVER. Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton | |
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cborgman said: susannah said: Whats netflix? downloads?like renting movies, but no store. they mail the dvd to you. when you are done with it, you mail it back, and they send you the next one on your list. best invention EVER. Ah ok...I dunno, I don't think I could be that organised...I don't really watch movies either, I just like having some to hand in case Im really bored and I wanna watch them. Which is rare. Or if there's nothing on TV I'll put on a video/dvd of one of my fave shows for a while.
Proabably not for me | |
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Ace said: LleeLlee said: I think the only cutting edge character was Samantha, the predatory female who toyed with men the way I do. She, like myself, wasn't out to reform anyone but just get her kicks wherever and whenever she felt like it. The only person she pleased was herself. Which is what I'll be doing shortly, when I head out to the nearest pub to pick up the first man I see with a sizeable bulge in his trousers.
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LleeLlee said: Ace said: VOTE....EARLY | |
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