Spookymuffin said: evenstar3 said: Except you. You're gorgeous and geeky. You can build my computer empire with me. Back off! And besides, you already lost your computer empire geek haircut, so it's going to take a least a few months before you can even THINK about dominating the world with your revolutionary software ideas. | |
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purplecam said: I am so with you on that. I actually work a block from you at Macy's so I really understand . Tourists have this "Deer in the Headlight" look on their faces from Herald Square to Times Square. I must say, in spite of what I said earlier in the thread, I really do love NYC but we have our issues(as all cities do) and truth be told, I am a fast walker and almost everyday I nearly run into someone because people will suddenly stop in the middle of the street like it's nothing. Now that's rude to me as well, but I'll say sorry even if I'm not in the wrong. I just wish the slow people would go to the sides and let the faster people in the center of the sidewalks. That's all I want.
You and DevotedPuppy are telling it like it is. YOU CAN'T F--- WITH OUR FLOW, especially at rush hour! NYC is a tough place to live and work. Rents are high, taxes are high, subway fares are high - so we have to hustle and make that loot. I take a bus and a subway to get to work - I know folks who take three different subways. And driving to work is a horror - at 4AM, traffic is backed up. New Yorkers have tunnel vision when we're trying to get somewhere. And when we're running late because of transportation delays, we really don't have time for the bullsh!t. To out-of-towners who consider us rude, get a thicker skin. You try living here. Most of the time, I'm polite to tourists. When they ask me for directions, I try to help as best as I can. I'm always surprised - I figure they'd be afraid to talk to a black man, considering the negative press we get. | |
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purplecam said: psychodelicide said: Aww, thanks, Cam, you're pretty cool yourself. Aww shucks. Thanks Not a problem, anytime. RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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Im from Manitoba where our licence plates even say "Friendly Manitoba".
I find there are rude people no matter where you go, I have always had a good experience when travelling in the US and Ive had some bad experiences here in Winnipeg so I think it just depends on the individual you deal with not the country you're in. Our provincial motto has now been changed from "Friendly Manitoba" to "Spirited Energy"....I think thats just a nice way to say we're all high! Ive been told by alot of Americans who have visited Winnipeg that we are definetly one of the friendliest cities, I think its mostly cause we're very laid back and have a reputation for having a good time, we find alot of excuses to drink and celebrate things | |
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PurpleThunder said: Im from Manitoba where our licence plates even say "Friendly Manitoba".
I find there are rude people no matter where you go, I have always had a good experience when travelling in the US and Ive had some bad experiences here in Winnipeg so I think it just depends on the individual you deal with not the country you're in. Our provincial motto has now been changed from "Friendly Manitoba" to "Spirited Energy"....I think thats just a nice way to say we're all high! Ive been told by alot of Americans who have visited Winnipeg that we are definetly one of the friendliest cities, I think its mostly cause we're very laid back and have a reputation for having a good time, we find alot of excuses to drink and celebrate things Sounds like my kind of place! RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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Spookymuffin said: evenstar3 said: Except you. You're gorgeous and geeky. You can build my computer empire with me. As long as it's an EVIL computer empire! | |
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PurpleThunder said: Im from Manitoba where our licence plates even say "Friendly Manitoba".
I find there are rude people no matter where you go, I have always had a good experience when travelling in the US and Ive had some bad experiences here in Winnipeg so I think it just depends on the individual you deal with not the country you're in. Our provincial motto has now been changed from "Friendly Manitoba" to "Spirited Energy"....I think thats just a nice way to say we're all high! Ive been told by alot of Americans who have visited Winnipeg that we are definetly one of the friendliest cities, I think its mostly cause we're very laid back and have a reputation for having a good time, we find alot of excuses to drink and celebrate things I lived in Winnipeg for a couple of years and met a lot of very friendly, cool people...and there is some serious eye candy in that city too. | |
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evenstar3 said: Spookymuffin said: Except you. You're gorgeous and geeky. You can build my computer empire with me. As long as it's an EVIL computer empire! ugh. It was the hair wasn't it? curse my straight hair | |
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JustErin said: PurpleThunder said: Im from Manitoba where our licence plates even say "Friendly Manitoba".
I find there are rude people no matter where you go, I have always had a good experience when travelling in the US and Ive had some bad experiences here in Winnipeg so I think it just depends on the individual you deal with not the country you're in. Our provincial motto has now been changed from "Friendly Manitoba" to "Spirited Energy"....I think thats just a nice way to say we're all high! Ive been told by alot of Americans who have visited Winnipeg that we are definetly one of the friendliest cities, I think its mostly cause we're very laid back and have a reputation for having a good time, we find alot of excuses to drink and celebrate things I lived in Winnipeg for a couple of years and met a lot of very friendly, cool people...and there is some serious eye candy in that city too. Yes, it can be very hard living here some days Emm came to visit me last year and I introduced her to a couple pieces of candy | |
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Fauxie said: evenstar3 said: As long as it's an EVIL computer empire! ugh. It was the hair wasn't it? curse my straight hair don't you and spooky have basically the same hair style now since he's cut it? | |
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evenstar3 said: Fauxie said: ugh. It was the hair wasn't it? curse my straight hair don't you and spooky have basically the same hair style now since he's cut it? not really, he still has all of his hair, while mine is making a run for it | |
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KoolEaze said: meow85 said: To say I work in a popular store would be an understatement, especially now that people are (already!) starting their Christmas shopping.
Since we're only 2 hours away from the 49th, a lot of Americans come up here to take advantage of the exchange rate and save a bit of $$$ on their shopping. Nothing wrong with that. Your money's as welcome as ours. Heh. Higher profits mean we menial workers get higher wages. (And we just got a raise! Thanks a bunch! ) But here's my problem. Your absolute lack of civility in even basic transactions. Canadians have a reputation for being polite. Personally I don't think it's that we're especially polite, it's just that our neighbours to the South apparently can't say please or thank you to save their lives. 9 times out 10, if a customer is rude, they're carrying an American credit or bank card. Even paying by cash can't hide you; the accents are a dead giveaway. I'm sure there are plenty of you who were raised right, but why are so many of you guys -at least the ones that come up here -so goddamned rude? If Please and Thank You is asking too much, would it kill you to at least keep your tone of voice civil? Are Canadian English and American English really that different ? I thought they sound pretty similar. Nope. There's huge differences. In countries as big as ours, the accent varies state by state and province by province. But no American sounds like a Canadian, and vice versa. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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TMPletz said: Some people were just raised as idiots. Every country has them. Oh I know. And it's honestly not that I have anything against Americans as a whole (your taste in leaders maybe, but that's another story) but there's definitely a disproportionate amount of rude customers coming from your side of the border. Maybe it has something to do with the mindset that thinks a 4 hour drive is worth saving 20 bucks, I don't know. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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Rhondab said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: true, except for one thing: in my experience in retail, there were a lotta times where the manager would stick up for me because some piddly-assed customer would actually be totally in the wrong and believed in the whole "customer's always right" thing. and i'm always nice to those who work in retail. i know how it is working behind the counter and having to deal with rude fucktards a lot of the time. I had to teach my mom, who didn't have a problem going off if she felt something was unfairly done, to stop yellin' at the sales rep. Just go straight to the manager but stop going off (unless she was treated unfairly). I worked retail for years and I always felt like it should be a requirement that ppl have to work on Christmas season to get a dose of it the maddness. I worked for a retailer who didn't believe the customer was always right and it was a wonderful store to manage. If the customer was wrong, they are wrong. I loved it. I know what you mean. I've worked Christmas before a few years at other stores, and now I'm gearing up to do it in a toy store of all places. (I must be insane!) If more people had had to work retail at some point, there'd be a hell of a lot less "customer incidents". That sounds like a great place to work, btw. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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KoolEaze said: meow85 said: To say I work in a popular store would be an understatement, especially now that people are (already!) starting their Christmas shopping.
Since we're only 2 hours away from the 49th, a lot of Americans come up here to take advantage of the exchange rate and save a bit of $$$ on their shopping. Nothing wrong with that. Your money's as welcome as ours. Heh. Higher profits mean we menial workers get higher wages. (And we just got a raise! Thanks a bunch! ) But here's my problem. Your absolute lack of civility in even basic transactions. Canadians have a reputation for being polite. Personally I don't think it's that we're especially polite, it's just that our neighbours to the South apparently can't say please or thank you to save their lives. 9 times out 10, if a customer is rude, they're carrying an American credit or bank card. Even paying by cash can't hide you; the accents are a dead giveaway. I'm sure there are plenty of you who were raised right, but why are so many of you guys -at least the ones that come up here -so goddamned rude? If Please and Thank You is asking too much, would it kill you to at least keep your tone of voice civil? Are Canadian English and American English really that different ? I thought they sound pretty similar. I work for Sprint PCS and its not uncommon for a customer to state "You're a canadian! i can tell by your accent". also had people call up and later ask are you a canadian? sometimes they hang up when i answer "indeed i am". i don't see the big difference i mean, the further south you go the heavier difference there is. same goes for east to west it seems. look at the boston accent versus someone from washington state or north carolina "The is no great genius without some touch of madness" -Seneca | |
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eVeRsOlEsA said: There are rude people where ever you go. I try to be nice and polite to everyone, so to make a sweeping statement about Americans being rude, is actually rude in it's self
Well I didn't make any such sweeping statement, so I guess I'm good. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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Lammastide said: Interesting that you'd bring this up, meow. I was just talking about this to my wife yesterday.
I'm not sure what BCers are truly like (I visited Vancouver only once for a few days in 2000 and generally enjoyed the folk there), but I've been a bit suprised by Torontonians. Canadians do have the reputation of being nice -- almost to a fault, but I haven't found Torontonians to be particularly so. They are often really cool and giving, almost unusually so, if/when they have "business" with you, but I've found that if they don't know you, they don't speak... even when you say "hi" first. I've held doors for people, used "please" and "thank you," called people "sir" or "ma'am," and yet I can't tell you how many folk here -- male, female, black, white, young, old -- have looked me dead in the eye and kept going like I wasn't there. It's been a bit off-putting. (By the way, this doesn't characterize all Torontonians... but enough that I've noticed.) I've chalked it up to a few possibilities: 1) Maybe they're rude because they can detect I am American (and, yes, there are noticeable differences); 2) maybe I look funny ; or 3) the differences in civility are regional. I think big city folk, in general, tend to be less cognizant of social graces. If I were in Thunder Bay, Ont., for example, aside from the shock of seeing a black guy , I bet they'd be more pleasant in the aggregate. As Americans go, northerners -- and particularly coastal northerners -- are known for being less genteel than others... particularly southerners. But, again, I think that's oversimplified. It's more a regional thing: From what I've seen, folk from Georgia accept you as pretty much a cousin at "hello," whereas Texans, from what I saw, are a bit more suspicious. And, interestingly, I've never found New Yorkers to be rude, despite their reputation. But Bostonians, as much as I love their city (even considered a move there), are rude as hell! [Edited 10/8/06 21:22pm] I think you might be right about the differences in manners between town folk and city folk. Town people are much nicer. But they are crazy, so it's kind of a trade-off. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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evenstar3 said: Spookymuffin said: Except you. You're gorgeous and geeky. You can build my computer empire with me. As long as it's an EVIL computer empire! Of course! | |
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Fauxie said: evenstar3 said: don't you and spooky have basically the same hair style now since he's cut it? not really, he still has all of his hair, while mine is making a run for it You're not growing old gracefully! | |
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A similar experience made it clear to me that some Americans take the shortcut when it comes to manners. | |
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Spookymuffin said: Fauxie said: not really, he still has all of his hair, while mine is making a run for it You're not growing old gracefully! | |
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