I believe that it was necessary for survival back in the day (and still is in some parts of the world) but to see it flaunted as an extravagant accessory is unnecessary to me. I like the look, so I opt for fake fur (it is cheaper also). I do own one piece of real fur, but it is an antique shawl from the 50's. I don't feel bad about having such an old piece, because it has historical value. I do enjoy leather, but I make sure that it is a by product of the food industry. It is less wasteful.

It's not 4 me, but if it's yo thang. Rock on witch bad self.

applekisses said:

My Nephew keeps Chinchillas.....They are so much fun to watch..... Like Squirrels on Speed.....I can't believe there is clothing made of Chinchilla Fur.....It would take 10 Chillas just for a Damn glove Thats just evil.....

myownprivateinsanity said:

LOVE ur sig.

To All...

when ur thinkin bout wearin fur,

take the time to think about ur own SKIN being HARVESTED.

think about URSELF being purely an object of someone else's vanity.....



these days, we go for cotton clothing, natural plant, clothing. hemp.

dont be bringing me no animals, like u r superior to them.

humans, r not.

we cant even treat our own selves right, or our planet. x

myownprivateinsanity said:

I agree.

sacredwarrior said:

sacredwarrior said:

While I am against wearing fur, this statement is one of the most ridiculous things I have read on here.

sacredwarrior said:

Animals don't vote, drive, run for political office or produce reality shows... Doesn't mean they're not worthy of respect and humane treatment... But it does underscore the differences between humans and nonhumans...

We are superior. Whether we temper that superiority with grace or heartlessness, however, is another story altogether.

Why do those things make us superior ?

Dewrede said:

As opposed to them being differences that occur among species, you mean?

Ascribing equal weight to building a skyscraper and to building a nest in a tree?

I believe humans should be responsible for Earth and how we treat all of its inhabitants, human and otherwise.

But, I think people go a little overboard when they suggest humans and animals are the same or carry equal importance in the family of Creation...

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Dewrede said:

Exactly...or HOW do those things make us superior. We can't fly like birds...or survive freezing cold tempuratures without artificial means unlike polar bears...

To me those things are much more "superior" than being able to vote. I guess it depends on how you measure success as a species.

ThreadBare said:

mmm...so your opinion is based on the bible?

applekisses said:

Yes, it informs my opinion. Though, the Bible is full of instances where God used animals to help fulfill prophecy or even to keep His servants in line. (Jonah and the fish, Balaam and his donkey, etc.)

IrresistibleB1tch said:

Take hunting, for example. I don't do it. Various men in my life do.

Do you all see a difference, though, between hunting for food and hunting solely for sport?

And, are you all vegetarians (those of you who oppose wearing fur, I mean)?

ThreadBare said:

hunting for "sport" is frivolous. hunting for food is largely unnecessary.

and yes, i'm a vegan - no animal products at all. it's very easy to do.

for you, it's a moral issue then, correct?

ThreadBare said:

who, me? yes, it's an ethical question.

IrresistibleB1tch said:

Speaking of ethical considerations, I always have considered how the Bible shows the first animals being killed as a result of man's sin. Even the biblical model of the propitiation of sin required animal sacrifices until Christ's sacrificial death and resurrection.

ThreadBare said:

i wouldn't know anything about that...

IrresistibleB1tch said:

Just struck me, is all.

ThreadBare said:

cool!

ThreadBare said:

I am.

applekisses said:

I always thought that Superiority was a System devised by Man himself to justify his own actions.

Oh Look.....Them Coloured folk are inferior to us superior White folk.....Lets Enslave and opress them for the next millenium.....

Oh Look.....That race is Inferior to our superior race.....Lets wipe them off the face of the earth.....

Oh Look at that Cute Panda.....Lets shoot its inferior ass.....

Oh look.....We are superior to every living organism on this planet.....Lets abuse it until its all gone and our Superior ass becomes extinct because we in fact have never been superior.....Just ignorant.....

myownprivateinsanity said:

omg HELL YES I love it!!

Natisse said:

The Nicotine withdrawal is really kicking in today....Does it show??

myownprivateinsanity said:

This is just the attitude my posts criticize.

HereToRockYourWorld said:

Just to play devil's advocate, you've never lived through a Minnesota winter... I'm not saying I agree with purchasing fur and that there aren't alternatives, but I don't think you can make a warmer coat, period. I see the attraction. 5 layers of clothing and multiple 'coats', or your normal outfit and one coat.

I think some vintage fur coats are absolutely gorgeous. I think the industry is appalling, but I still adore the look.

I accidentally purchased a rabbit fur hat a few years ago. Had I known it was real rabbit fur, I wouldn't have bought it. I mean, it's pink and was only about $20, I didn't even bother to check the tag. A few days after I had it home someone asled me if it was or not and we looked at the tag and discovered it is.
It's still a really, really, cute hat, though. I and I could never let it go to waste.

ThreadBare said:

I agree, I think it shows a lack of perspective of the relationship between animals and humans. At its best there should be a respect for animals and an understanding of their nature, to view them for what they are and to be treated with kindness. Why judge them with the same kind of issues reserved for human relationships? It's like that dressing your dog in clothes bullshit, he's your dog, not something to take out all your emotional baggage on. They should not have their habitats destroyed, to live alongside them and understand them and let them be animals. Dont deny them their true nature, THAT to me is cruel.



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I don't understand the animal as an equal thing but I do not visit zoos or circuses because I think the way they treat animals so we can be entertained is cruel. Maybe when I see us as humans repsecting each other, then maybe I can move on to respect animals.