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Printableretina said: Anx said: both. i think people have as much of a responsibility to be sincere persuasive speakers as they do to be sensibly critical listeners. Of course, but sense isn't like an attitude that you can put on like some overcoat. You can practice of course, but if something escapes your attempts at keeping a critical eye, I don't think you can be blamed for that nearly as much as someone who is intentionally deceitful. Abusing a power is always worse than lacking it, IMO. people who have no sense would fall into my definition of stupid. and people who manipulate the stupid deserve what's coming to them...that's just a different level of stupid. | |
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Anx said: retina said: Of course, but sense isn't like an attitude that you can put on like some overcoat. You can practice of course, but if something escapes your attempts at keeping a critical eye, I don't think you can be blamed for that nearly as much as someone who is intentionally deceitful. Abusing a power is always worse than lacking it, IMO. people who have no sense would fall into my definition of stupid. and people who manipulate the stupid deserve what's coming to them...that's just a different level of stupid. You can label them however you like. The point is: We are all born with certain abilities that we can use as tools in our life. Some are born with a high IQ, others with artistic ability, others still with a talent for handicraft or sports etc etc (or any combination of the above). To say that one who is not born with the ability to understand certain types of reasoning is as much to blame as one who has the ability and abuses it is basically the same thing as to say that a one-legged man who loses a marathon to a two-legged man lost fair and square. We should all try to improve ourselves and make the best of what we have, I agree with that much, but we also have to consider each other's limitations and not use any advantage we might have as a weapon. "With great power comes great responsibility". It's so simple that even Hollywood has understood it.  | |
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retina said: Anx said: people who have no sense would fall into my definition of stupid. and people who manipulate the stupid deserve what's coming to them...that's just a different level of stupid. You can label them however you like. The point is: We are all born with certain abilities that we can use as tools in our life. Some are born with a high IQ, others with artistic ability, others still with a talent for handicraft or sports etc etc (or any combination of the above). To say that one who is not born with the ability to understand certain types of reasoning is as much to blame as one who has the ability and abuses it is basically the same thing as to say that a one-legged man who loses a marathon to a two-legged man lost fair and square. We should all try to improve ourselves and make the best of what we have, I agree with that much, but we also have to consider each other's limitations and not use any advantage we might have as a weapon. "With great power comes great responsibility". It's so simple that even Hollywood has understood it. it's when other people's limitations get in the way of my attempts to widen my own path that i need to remind myself of your tolerance manifesto. | |
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Anx said: retina said: You can label them however you like. The point is: We are all born with certain abilities that we can use as tools in our life. Some are born with a high IQ, others with artistic ability, others still with a talent for handicraft or sports etc etc (or any combination of the above). To say that one who is not born with the ability to understand certain types of reasoning is as much to blame as one who has the ability and abuses it is basically the same thing as to say that a one-legged man who loses a marathon to a two-legged man lost fair and square. We should all try to improve ourselves and make the best of what we have, I agree with that much, but we also have to consider each other's limitations and not use any advantage we might have as a weapon. "With great power comes great responsibility". It's so simple that even Hollywood has understood it. it's when other people's limitations get in the way of my attempts to widen my own path that i need to remind myself of your tolerance manifesto. I know, I struggle with being tolerant myself. Some people definitely don't make it easy for you! | |
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Anx said: Tolerance Manifesto.
Is this your plan to get rid of Jews? My Legacy
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NDRU said: Anx said: Tolerance Manifesto.
Is this your plan to get rid of Jews? No, that would be the similarly-named "Tora-clearance Mantrap-in-fez-o". You spring it on them when they've made their purchase and want to condescendingly pat you on the head.  | |
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NDRU said: Anx said: Tolerance Manifesto.
Is this your plan to get rid of Jews? are you calling jews stupid?  | |
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Anx said: retina said: The people doing the insincere convincing of course. They are intentionally deceitful, whereas the easily convinced simply lack ability to see through the arguments. Can't blame them for that. both. i think people have as much of a responsibility to be sincere persuasive speakers as they do to be sensibly critical listeners. I noted 'equally culpable' because we live in a Democracy, one where apathy is discouraged. Haven't we done a good job of fostering intentional deceit because the easily convinced are of some value to us? Myself, I like a mix of "dumb" & "smart" people in my life. I try not to put too much a value critical thinking or persuasive talking. Sometimes I love to argue, but more often than not I don't want to have to be en gaurde. bc "I got the devil in me, girl." - 'John the Baptist', Afghan Whigs
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I do my best not to be critical of another.
They both add something to one's life... ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^
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Anx said: NDRU said: Is this your plan to get rid of Jews? are you calling jews stupid? no no no, just a silly joke about tolerance Like Steve Martin's silly joke: "I recently wrote a book. It's called How To Get Along With Everybody. I didn't write it alone I wrote it with this other...uh...asshole jerkoff..." [Edited 9/29/06 15:33pm] My Legacy
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Anx said: stupid people are the only group of people i'm openly bigoted against. i am, unfortunately, the fred phelps/jesse helms of stupid people. i think they should all be rounded up and put on their own island where they can live their stupid lifestyle away from the rest of us.
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NDRU said: Anx said: are you calling jews stupid? no no no, just a silly joke about tolerance Like Steve Martin's silly joke: "I recently wrote a book. It's called How To Get Along With Everybody. I didn't write it alone I wrote it with this other...uh...asshole jerkoff..." [Edited 9/29/06 15:33pm] oh, i know. and my response shouldn't have been taken terribly seriously either. | |
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Anx said: NDRU said: no no no, just a silly joke about tolerance Like Steve Martin's silly joke: "I recently wrote a book. It's called How To Get Along With Everybody. I didn't write it alone I wrote it with this other...uh...asshole jerkoff..." [Edited 9/29/06 15:33pm] oh, i know. and my response shouldn't have been taken terribly seriously either. that's good, I shouldn't make jokes like that because I'm always sure someone misunderstood! My Legacy
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