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PrintableIllustrator said: Number23 said: Played, I think. I'm sick of people saying 'I dunno' when they fucking do if they just dug a little deeper. But what if they do know but just don't care? Some people are just worth digging in deeper for , especially if you know that they're are not listening. I think we're all soloing to the deaf. I don't trust facial gestures. I've faked them and so have you. | |
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Number23 said: Illustrator said: But what if they do know but just don't care? Some people are just worth digging in deeper for , especially if you know that they're are not listening. I think we're all soloing to the deaf. I don't trust facial gestures. I've faked them and so have you. 
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HereToRockYourWorld said: WillyWonka said: I'm a bit cranky today. Aw. . . you're allowed. . .  Thank you, sweet lady. | |
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HereToRockYourWorld said: NDRU said: That's similar to smart people being sooo sure they're right they won't consider anyone else's opinion anymore. Yeah, well, that's always dumb. Honest to gawd, I think that's more of a dumb-person thing than a smart-person thing. Most smart people didn't get that way by ignoring the input of others. You can't learn if you think you already know. Or, I should say, most knowledgable people. I guess the people you're really talking about are the people who have the raw intelligence but don't use it well. Those people probably don't actually know much. Many "knowledgeable" people seem to learn only to a certain extent, and believe that's the ultimate truth forever. What's intelligent when you're 15 isn't always still intelligent when you're 30. The difference between "smart" and "knowledgeable" is huge. Humor (as mentioned by irresistiblebitch) is a good indicator of that raw stuff you're talking about. Humor often means you're thinking quickly & creatively. My Legacy
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Number23 said: WillyWonka said: I'm a bit cranky today. Well here's a hug to make it a wee bit better.  Thank you, sir.
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IrresistibleB1tch said: Number23 said: I think we're all soloing to the deaf. I don't trust facial gestures. I've faked them and so have you.
what?
I'm just saying I find it hard to tell the difference as to when people are hearing me or listening to me. Sometimes I drop in the odd 'I agree with Hitler' or 'Aren't paedophiles unjustly vicimised?' just to observe a slight expansion in their pupils. No-one's listening. I think we're all looking for the one that listens. If everyone listened Mr Mills and Mr Boon would still be cleaning toilets. | |
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Number23 said: Illustrator said: But what if they do know but just don't care? Some people are just worth digging in deeper for , especially if you know that they're are not listening. I think we're all soloing to the deaf. I don't trust facial gestures. I've faked them and so have you.
Now you've dug in too deep for me. I like honest, face-to-face communication, and to be honest, I don't know what you're tring to say with this. | |
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Number23 said: IrresistibleB1tch said:
what?
I'm just saying I find it hard to tell the difference as to when people are hearing me or listening to me. Sometimes I drop in the odd 'I agree with Hitler' or 'Aren't paedophiles unjustly vicimised?' just to observe a slight expansion in their pupils. No-one's listening. I think we're all looking for the one that listens. If everyone listened Mr Mills and Mr Boon would still be cleaning toilets. Okay, now I understand. I think. | |
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IrresistibleB1tch said: Number23 said: I think we're all soloing to the deaf. I don't trust facial gestures. I've faked them and so have you.
what?
I'm just saying I find it difficult to measure the air between people hearing me or listening to me. Sometimes I drop in the odd 'I agree with Hitler' or 'Aren't paedophiles unjustly vicimised?' just to observe a slight expansion in their pupils. No-one's listening. We're all somewhat mute. I think we're all, here, still looking for the one that listens. If everyone listened Mr Mills and Mr Boon would still be cleaning toilets. | |
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Number23 said: IrresistibleB1tch said:
what?
I'm just saying I find it hard to tell the difference as to when people are hearing me or listening to me. Sometimes I drop in the odd 'I agree with Hitler' or 'Aren't paedophiles unjustly vicimised?' just to observe a slight expansion in their pupils. No-one's listening. I think we're all looking for the one that listens. If everyone listened Mr Mills and Mr Boon would still be cleaning toilets. | |
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Number23 said: IrresistibleB1tch said:
what?
I'm just saying I find it difficult to measure the air between people hearing me or listening to me. Sometimes I drop in the odd 'I agree with Hitler' or 'Aren't paedophiles unjustly vicimised?' just to observe a slight expansion in their pupils. No-one's listening. We're all somewhat mute. I think we're all, here, still looking for the one that listens. If everyone listened Mr Mills and Mr Boon would still be cleaning toilets. | |
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IrresistibleB1tch said: Number23 said: I'm just saying I find it difficult to measure the air between people hearing me or listening to me. Sometimes I drop in the odd 'I agree with Hitler' or 'Aren't paedophiles unjustly vicimised?' just to observe a slight expansion in their pupils. No-one's listening. We're all somewhat mute. I think we're all, here, still looking for the one that listens. If everyone listened Mr Mills and Mr Boon would still be cleaning toilets. I'm just saying I find it hard to tell the difference as to when people are hearing me or listening to me. Sometimes I drop in the odd 'I agree with Hitler' or 'Aren't paedophiles unjustly vicimised?' just to observe a slight expansion in their pupils. No-one's listening. I think we're all looking for the one that listens. If everyone listened Mr Mills and Mr Boon would still be cleaning toilets. | |
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IrresistibleB1tch said: Number23 said: I'm just saying I find it hard to tell the difference as to when people are hearing me or listening to me. Sometimes I drop in the odd 'I agree with Hitler' or 'Aren't paedophiles unjustly vicimised?' just to observe a slight expansion in their pupils. No-one's listening. I think we're all looking for the one that listens. If everyone listened Mr Mills and Mr Boon would still be cleaning toilets. I don't trust that facial gesture. (Oh, & I just showed Guido your post, & he says that I'm right not to trust it.) | |
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Illustrator said: IrresistibleB1tch said: I don't trust that facial gesture. (Oh, & I just showed Guido your post, & he says that I'm right not to trust it.) Is Guido your dog? | |
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Number23 said: IrresistibleB1tch said: I'm just saying I find it hard to tell the difference as to when people are hearing me or listening to me. Sometimes I drop in the odd 'I agree with Hitler' or 'Aren't paedophiles unjustly vicimised?' just to observe a slight expansion in their pupils. No-one's listening. I think we're all looking for the one that listens. If everyone listened Mr Mills and Mr Boon would still be cleaning toilets. you're so right!  | |
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Illustrator said: IrresistibleB1tch said: I don't trust that facial gesture. (Oh, & I just showed Guido your post, & he says that I'm right not to trust it.) | |
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Number23 said: IrresistibleB1tch said: I'm just saying I find it hard to tell the difference as to when people are hearing me or listening to me. Sometimes I drop in the odd 'I agree with Hitler' or 'Aren't paedophiles unjustly vicimised?' just to observe a slight expansion in their pupils. No-one's listening. I think we're all looking for the one that listens. If everyone listened Mr Mills and Mr Boon would still be cleaning toilets. Sometimes they even think they're listening, but really they're thinking of their next response. Skill with an argument is another flaw of the "intelligent" My Legacy
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NDRU said: Number23 said: I'm just saying I find it hard to tell the difference as to when people are hearing me or listening to me. Sometimes I drop in the odd 'I agree with Hitler' or 'Aren't paedophiles unjustly vicimised?' just to observe a slight expansion in their pupils. No-one's listening. I think we're all looking for the one that listens. If everyone listened Mr Mills and Mr Boon would still be cleaning toilets. Sometimes they even think they're listening, but really they're thinking of their next response. Skill with an argument is another flaw of the "intelligent" Skill with an argument usually shows more of an inability to actually listen and/or empathize. And they like to say that debate is good. The reality is that 99% of all debates are debates just for the sake of debate which is pretty much just intellectually-sounding pointless noise ( & therefore not-so-intelligent). Debate for the sake of understanding is incredibly rare & requires more alot heart & patience than it does intelligence. | |
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Illustrator said: NDRU said: Sometimes they even think they're listening, but really they're thinking of their next response. Skill with an argument is another flaw of the "intelligent" Skill with an argument usually shows more of an inability to actually listen and/or empathize. And they like to say that debate is good. The reality is that 99% of all debates are debates just for the sake of debate which is pretty much just intellectually-sounding pointless noise ( & therefore not-so-intelligent). Debate for the sake of understanding is incredibly rare & requires more alot heart & patience than it does intelligence. | |
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IrresistibleB1tch said: Illustrator said: Skill with an argument usually shows more of an inability to actually listen and/or empathize. And they like to say that debate is good. The reality is that 99% of all debates are debates just for the sake of debate which is pretty much just intellectually-sounding pointless noise ( & therefore not-so-intelligent). Debate for the sake of understanding is incredibly rare & requires more alot heart & patience than it does intelligence.  | |
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Illustrator said: NDRU said: Sometimes they even think they're listening, but really they're thinking of their next response. Skill with an argument is another flaw of the "intelligent" Skill with an argument usually shows more of an inability to actually listen and/or empathize. And they like to say that debate is good. The reality is that 99% of all debates are debates just for the sake of debate which is pretty much just intellectually-sounding pointless noise ( & therefore not-so-intelligent). Debate for the sake of understanding is incredibly rare & requires more alot heart & patience than it does intelligence. wrong! just kidding, I totally agree When people debate, often their emotions get involved, and the sense of competition takes over. While it takes some intelligence to argue effectively, it shows greater intelligence to allow yourself to lose an argument occasionally My Legacy
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Illustrator said: IrresistibleB1tch said: well, i, for one, don't believe that 99% of all debates are debates just for the sake of debate which is pretty much just intellectually-sounding pointless noise ( & therefore not-so-intelligent). so there.  | |
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I think debate (for the sake of understanding, not for the sake of winning) is an incredibly valuable thing.
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HereToRockYourWorld said: I think debate (for the sake of understanding, not for the sake of winning) is an incredibly valuable thing.
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Illustrator said: HereToRockYourWorld said: I think debate (for the sake of understanding, not for the sake of winning) is an incredibly valuable thing.
Debate in general gets too much credit because of that, though. Most debate unfortunately seems to be for the sake of winnning (or at least for the sport of it) rather than for true understanding. My Legacy
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NDRU said: Illustrator said: Debate in general gets too much credit because of that, though. Most debate unfortunately seems to be for the sake of winnning (or at least for the sport of it) rather than for true understanding. no, it isn't.  | |
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IrresistibleB1tch said: NDRU said: Debate in general gets too much credit because of that, though. Most debate unfortunately seems to be for the sake of winnning (or at least for the sport of it) rather than for true understanding. no, it isn't. I'm not paying for that! My Legacy
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NDRU said: IrresistibleB1tch said: no, it isn't. I'm not paying for that! i told you, i'm not allowed to argue unless you pay! | |
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IrresistibleB1tch said: NDRU said: I'm not paying for that! i told you, i'm not allowed to argue unless you pay! I did pay! [Edited 9/28/06 16:38pm] My Legacy
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