Always. I'm always so so tired.

But can NEVER sleep.

Never. I just CAN'T.

Does anyone else have this???

A serious house-mom has the same problems as a serious working stiff; doing so much work in only so many hours that you become acustomed to it. Living on only 4 hours a sleep a day or less is all that you get or can get. After a while, your body gets used to it, so that when you can get more sleep, you cant.

Its a damned shame. I treat a 8 hour sleep like a mini-vacation.

5HTP

StDrew said:

Hmmmmm. That makes sense.

How ya doin? Haven't "seen" ya 'round in a while.

Mach said:

Huh?

luv4all7 said:

Working 8 hours at the bank on my day off!

StDrew said:

You're tired?

Try giving blood. That's more tiring than tantric masturbation.

Spookymuffin said:

Thats one of the only times I CAN fall asleep.

Alot of People have trouble Sleeping.

It isn't that they don't "fall" asleep.

It's that they don't like falling.

MickG said:

Hmmmmm. Ya mean like winding down?

This kind of fatigue sounds like lethargy and is usually brought on by a bad diet and/or lack of exercise.

luv4all7 said:

I used to about five years ago.
Don'ttake this the wrong way, but I would wait until all the responsibilities of the day were out of the way and roll a fat one.

Knocked me out every night.

The problem did eventually go away(Not because of the fat ones, they only helped).

Mach said:

Mach, you are the best, I'll look for this.

StDrew said:

What are ya's talkin about?

Spookymuffin said:

No, I think it's cuz my head won't stop going. Like it won't chill.

luv4all7 said:

No. There's a short stage the mind goes through while falling asleep. It's when the consciousness slips into unconsciousness. The Alph brain patterns slip into beta. It's that letting go of consciousness that people fear, and so they wake up, even unconsciouly they do, and bring themself back into conscious thought patterns.

Mostly this could be defined as that "Why Ain't I sleeping" stage. It's where you are actually falling asleep, but your mind panics itself about the very act of sleeping so to wake up. It can be easily fixed by just thinking, "I'm already asleep".

MickG said:

I love that dozing off stage. The one where your half awake but half aslleep, and weird thoughts start going through your head, but they're (How bout it Spook?) not actual dreams. Is that the stage your talking about?

luv4all7 said:

Are you exercising?
Are you eating very well? Lots of rice, meat, fruit, one portion of sea food a week, seeds in your salad?

StDrew said:

not the best...just Mach

luv4all7 said:

http://www.5htp.com/

luv4all7 said:

spend some energy researching 5HTP



it may work for you too

StDrew said:

Oh.

luv4all7 said:

yes, but THEY ARE the start of the dream stage. When the thoughts get all fuzzy logic, that's the start of the dream cycle. To many people obsess about the thoughts therein and awaken themself. It would be better to alow yourself be taken under, or you can always do some math in your head. This often does it for me. It's along the idea of counting sheep.
[Edited 9/20/06 11:30am]

MickG said:

I SAW THAT MICK!!!!!

luv4all7 said:

Pills should be a last resort. It's such a misconception to rely on them as a quick-fix these days. It's so wrong that culture does this. Pills have side-effects and damage your health. There's a huge argument anyway that pills like this are all psychological - you think (mentally) that they are helping, which changes your mindset, even though the pills are doing fuck all.

Basically, pills are shit - we didn't need them 50 years ago, so why now?

Spookymuffin said:

I work out with weights and cardio 4-6 days a week, I eat plenty of chicken, fish and veggies. I take a two-a-day vitamin with a olive anti-oxidant back. I also work 60-70 hours a week. I dont think me taking a pill to help me find a little sleep all that bad.

StDrew said:

Oh trust me when I say, I am not an antiDrug type person.

However if you do work that much, and work out that much, your body should "need" sleep, and should be willing to "take" sleep on its own.

MickG said:

Oh yeah, I know. Ive actually come home some days with nothing scheduled and passed out for 12 or so hours. Mini-vacation.

Spookymuffin said:

the ones i take are 100% natural plant extract ...

we dont eat as well as 50 yrs ago and the food quality is not that of 50 yrs ago either

i take the PILLS



for 1-2 months per yrs to help my body adjust to the time/season changes


if you have everything so worked out there hun how come you have such
( publicly on the org ) mood swings and boughts with depression ?

is your diet right ?
do you exercize right ?






yeah we all know mindset helps shift all things... but the human body CAN be and often times IS lacking on certian chemicals that make her run better