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Reply #30 posted 09/20/06 4:10am

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Raycheale said:

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Sorry to hear that. disbelief

I'm not sure if you watch 'Supernanny', Steve - my housemate put it on last night; it was quite good actually eek - but that is exactly what last night's programme was about. nod Two 3-year old twins who kicked, bit and scratched each other, then went to kindergarten and attacked all the other kids. omfg

I was, like, "Were you ever like this as a kid???!". I couldn't believe it!

I didn't see the end of it, unfortunately, but it must be very frustrating as a parent to be told that. Especially from the people who are in charge of them. confused
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razz razz I saw Supernanny too and she turns these kids into angels but having said that alot of kids bite, you hear it all the time its just a way to vent an emotion. The thing is to try to get them to vent their emotion a different way. It's hard at three yrs old but if the kid was older then it would have the knowledge to stop. Hey just keep telling them its wrong. I did know one woman who bit her kid and said " hey this is how it feels" and they never did it again. Not recommended though. smile


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A bit like rubbing a dog's nose in its' mess when it pees on the carpet?? lol

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Reply #31 posted 09/20/06 4:10am

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it is "normal" ... even though for alot of people --- when it happens it is barbaric ....

i remember when i first heard about it ... the reaction was tempting to say "see --- see .... thats what happens to parents who send their kids to daycare !!! "

but .... having been there ... i remember when my oldest got bitten ... at daycare ... and then ... when she bit ME !!!! now i have a 18 mo old and she just started doin this ... (she is not in daycare - but when she wrestles with her older sister -- its like a frustrated response --- only way she knows how to beat up her 6 yr old sister !!!)

obviously . discourage it . it doesnt last long ... in my opinion ... i also think it happens in that stage where they get frustrated alot and "may" bang their heads against the floor if they dont get their way , etc ... wink
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Reply #32 posted 09/20/06 4:17am

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it is "normal" ... even though for alot of people --- when it happens it is barbaric ....

i remember when i first heard about it ... the reaction was tempting to say "see --- see .... thats what happens to parents who send their kids to daycare !!! "

but .... having been there ... i remember when my oldest got bitten ... at daycare ... and then ... when she bit ME !!!! now i have a 18 mo old and she just started doin this ... (she is not in daycare - but when she wrestles with her older sister -- its like a frustrated response --- only way she knows how to beat up her 6 yr old sister !!!)

obviously . discourage it . it doesnt last long ... in my opinion ... i also think it happens in that stage where they get frustrated alot and "may" bang their heads against the floor if they dont get their way , etc ... wink


Oh, joy, so much to look forward to :lol
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Reply #33 posted 09/20/06 4:18am

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Some little girl bit my son yesterday at nursery, twice! On his back! I was livid after I got off the phone with the nurse, because she said it was "Normal" and "happens all the time". What the hell is wrong with parents that they can't teach kids simple rules anymore? Bloody hippies!
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I have a good friend who had a problem with her son biting the other kids in the nursery all the time. Neither one of my kids went throught the biting stage, but I know that a lot seem too. In my friends case, her son didn't speak. Like hardly at all, and that was his way of responding to whatever other children were doing. He went to speach therapy and when he finally started expressing himself, the biting stopped.
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Reply #34 posted 09/20/06 4:31am

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I have the creepiest stories about some daycare experiences I've had in my life when I was little. One of them is this in a nutshell:

My older sister and I would get dropped off at this daycare place a few blocks from our house in the daytime. It was run from this woman's house, and she had two daughters, one who was about 8 and the other who was around 4.

Anyway, the 4 year old was called "Choppers" because she bit everyone. confused I was around 3 and a half at the time and my sister was about 7. Well, this woman's oldest daughter had broken her leg in a go-cart accident and was all set up in the living room with her leg hanging up in the air in one of those elevation contraptions. lol The woman would make us go to the store and buy her oldest daughter candy and then wrap it up at presents and then give it to her. She made us say, "Janine, you're so pretty" and "Janine, here we got these presents for you." and Janine would just lay there and yell at us from the bed.

So Choppers used to bite everyone and one day she bit me on my inner arm so hard that it broke the skin and bled. When I cried, her mom hit me and said it was my fault anyway. "Why do you think we call her Choppers?!" nutty She also slapped me once when I took too long on the toilet and wouldn't open the door for her.

We didn't tell my mom these stories until about 15 years later actually. hmmm And then I found out that my older sister hated it there so much that she would just leave and go walk around the neighborhood all day. I always wondered where she went. lol The daycare woman never even told my mom that my older sister was leaving every day either. People are crazy.
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Reply #35 posted 09/20/06 4:39am

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minneapolisgenius said:

I have the creepiest stories about some daycare experiences I've had in my life when I was little. One of them is this in a nutshell:

My older sister and I would get dropped off at this daycare place a few blocks from our house in the daytime. It was run from this woman's house, and she had two daughters, one who was about 8 and the other who was around 4.

Anyway, the 4 year old was called "Choppers" because she bit everyone. confused I was around 3 and a half at the time and my sister was about 7. Well, this woman's oldest daughter had broken her leg in a go-cart accident and was all set up in the living room with her leg hanging up in the air in one of those elevation contraptions. lol The woman would make us go to the store and buy her oldest daughter candy and then wrap it up at presents and then give it to her. She made us say, "Janine, you're so pretty" and "Janine, here we got these presents for you." and Janine would just lay there and yell at us from the bed.

So Choppers used to bite everyone and one day she bit me on my inner arm so hard that it broke the skin and bled. When I cried, her mom hit me and said it was my fault anyway. "Why do you think we call her Choppers?!" nutty She also slapped me once when I took too long on the toilet and wouldn't open the door for her.

We didn't tell my mom these stories until about 15 years later actually. hmmm And then I found out that my older sister hated it there so much that she would just leave and go walk around the neighborhood all day. I always wondered where she went. lol The daycare woman never even told my mom that my older sister was leaving every day either. People are crazy.
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Oh I am so glad I started this thread shake
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Reply #36 posted 09/20/06 4:44am

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PREDOMINANT said:

minneapolisgenius said:

I have the creepiest stories about some daycare experiences I've had in my life when I was little. One of them is this in a nutshell:

My older sister and I would get dropped off at this daycare place a few blocks from our house in the daytime. It was run from this woman's house, and she had two daughters, one who was about 8 and the other who was around 4.

Anyway, the 4 year old was called "Choppers" because she bit everyone. confused I was around 3 and a half at the time and my sister was about 7. Well, this woman's oldest daughter had broken her leg in a go-cart accident and was all set up in the living room with her leg hanging up in the air in one of those elevation contraptions. lol The woman would make us go to the store and buy her oldest daughter candy and then wrap it up at presents and then give it to her. She made us say, "Janine, you're so pretty" and "Janine, here we got these presents for you." and Janine would just lay there and yell at us from the bed.

So Choppers used to bite everyone and one day she bit me on my inner arm so hard that it broke the skin and bled. When I cried, her mom hit me and said it was my fault anyway. "Why do you think we call her Choppers?!" nutty She also slapped me once when I took too long on the toilet and wouldn't open the door for her.

We didn't tell my mom these stories until about 15 years later actually. hmmm And then I found out that my older sister hated it there so much that she would just leave and go walk around the neighborhood all day. I always wondered where she went. lol The daycare woman never even told my mom that my older sister was leaving every day either. People are crazy.
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Oh I am so glad I started this thread shake

That's just ONE story of many of the absolutely crazy people that lived in my neighborhood. lol I have never seen so many unfit parents in my life, after I took time to talk about it with my family and remember all the weird families that lived around us. lol We thought WE were the strange ones. I knew people who locked their kids up in wooden cages in the attic, and a mother who starved her kids while she ate all the food in the house and weighed 300 lbs. confused And a friend's house that was completely covered in dog shit. It was ground into every surface of the carpet and floor so that you couldn't even walk and the stench was unbearable. disbelief

Of course, as a kid visiting these houses, I never came home and told my parents about it. I don't know why. It just all came out years later. I wonder what these people are doing nowdays? hmmm
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Reply #37 posted 09/20/06 4:48am

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minneapolisgenius said:

PREDOMINANT said:



Oh I am so glad I started this thread shake

That's just ONE story of many of the absolutely crazy people that lived in my neighborhood. lol I have never seen so many unfit parents in my life, after I took time to talk about it with my family and remember all the weird families that lived around us. lol We thought WE were the strange ones. I knew people who locked their kids up in wooden cages in the attic, and a mother who starved her kids while she ate all the food in the house and weighed 300 lbs. confused And a friend's house that was completely covered in dog shit. It was ground into every surface of the carpet and floor so that you couldn't even walk and the stench was unbearable. disbelief

Of course, as a kid visiting these houses, I never came home and told my parents about it. I don't know why. It just all came out years later. I wonder what these people are doing nowdays? hmmm
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eek oh man!!
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Reply #38 posted 09/20/06 4:50am

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IrresistibleB1tch said:

minneapolisgenius said:


That's just ONE story of many of the absolutely crazy people that lived in my neighborhood. lol I have never seen so many unfit parents in my life, after I took time to talk about it with my family and remember all the weird families that lived around us. lol We thought WE were the strange ones. I knew people who locked their kids up in wooden cages in the attic, and a mother who starved her kids while she ate all the food in the house and weighed 300 lbs. confused And a friend's house that was completely covered in dog shit. It was ground into every surface of the carpet and floor so that you couldn't even walk and the stench was unbearable. disbelief

Of course, as a kid visiting these houses, I never came home and told my parents about it. I don't know why. It just all came out years later. I wonder what these people are doing nowdays? hmmm
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eek oh man!!


Like I said, those are just a FEW of the stories I could tell. It was a really crazy neighborhod, and I didn't even realize it until I started talking about it with my sisters one day recently and we started trading stories.
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Reply #39 posted 09/20/06 4:58am

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minneapolisgenius said:

IrresistibleB1tch said:



eek oh man!!


Like I said, those are just a FEW of the stories I could tell. It was a really crazy neighborhod, and I didn't even realize it until I started talking about it with my sisters one day recently and we started trading stories.


you should write a book! thumbs up!
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Reply #40 posted 09/20/06 5:09am

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IrresistibleB1tch said:

minneapolisgenius said:



Like I said, those are just a FEW of the stories I could tell. It was a really crazy neighborhod, and I didn't even realize it until I started talking about it with my sisters one day recently and we started trading stories.


you should write a book! thumbs up!


Yeah, I could do a collection of true short stories about crazy fucked up people who have kids. It should be pretty heartwarming. biggrin

I'm a horrible writer though. lol
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Reply #41 posted 09/20/06 5:10am

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I bite kids all the time shrug

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Reply #42 posted 09/20/06 5:33am

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DanceWme said:

Spookymuffin said:

I bite kids all the time shrug

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Don't encourage him!
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Reply #43 posted 09/20/06 5:34am

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minneapolisgenius said:

IrresistibleB1tch said:



you should write a book! thumbs up!


Yeah, I could do a collection of true short stories about crazy fucked up people who have kids. It should be pretty heartwarming. biggrin

I'm a horrible writer though. lol


You could call it “Compulsory Sterility”
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Reply #44 posted 09/20/06 5:44am

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PREDOMINANT said:

minneapolisgenius said:



Yeah, I could do a collection of true short stories about crazy fucked up people who have kids. It should be pretty heartwarming. biggrin

I'm a horrible writer though. lol


You could call it “Compulsory Sterility”

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Reply #45 posted 09/20/06 5:52am

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Some little girl bit my son yesterday at nursery, twice! On his back! I was livid after I got off the phone with the nurse, because she said it was "Normal" and "happens all the time". What the hell is wrong with parents that they can't teach kids simple rules anymore? Bloody hippies!
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I know it's awful if your child's been bitten but it may not be the fault of the parents.

One of my friends has an autistic child who bites and has done since he was a toddler. He wasn't diagnosed at the time he was at nursery and my friend used to feel really embarrassed that her child was the only one who seemed to bite other children. Also, he didn't talk. Thankfully all the parents at his nursery school were really understanding otherwise I think she would have felt quite isolated.

Her son is now at a special school in a different area but her old nursery school and pre-natal friends have been very supportive which has been a huge help to her.

All I wanted to say is that all may not be as it appears.
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Reply #46 posted 09/20/06 6:00am

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PREDOMINANT said:

Some little girl bit my son yesterday at nursery, twice! On his back! I was livid after I got off the phone with the nurse, because she said it was "Normal" and "happens all the time". What the hell is wrong with parents that they can't teach kids simple rules anymore? Bloody hippies!
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I know it's awful if your child's been bitten but it may not be the fault of the parents.

One of my friends has an autistic child who bites and has done since he was a toddler. He wasn't diagnosed at the time he was at nursery and my friend used to feel really embarrassed that her child was the only one who seemed to bite other children. Also, he didn't talk. Thankfully all the parents at his nursery school were really understanding otherwise I think she would have felt quite isolated.

Her son is now at a special school in a different area but her old nursery school and pre-natal friends have been very supportive which has been a huge help to her.

All I wanted to say is that all may not be as it appears.


I have realised that from all the other posts too, apparently it is "normal" or it certainly happens thats for sure.
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Reply #47 posted 09/20/06 6:33am

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confuse so what you're saying is that it's NOT acceptable for adults to bite?? that we're supposed to "outgrow" this behavior?
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Reply #48 posted 09/20/06 7:11am

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When my godson was about one he went to a day care that I thought was questionable...and he was bitten by a little 15-month-old brute named Bryce (which my friends and I started calling "big head Bryce" because of the size of his mellon). The daycare workers didn't even tell my friend that my godson had been bitten...she saw the bite on his hand when she picked him up and asked them about it...they told the parents and they said they'd "have a talk with Bryce." omfg How do you reason with a 15-month-old?
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Reply #49 posted 09/20/06 7:22am

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Like others said, it's normal in the sense that it's all a learning process with children. They are just testing out expressing emotions in different ways. It's up to us as parents to teach them what is acceptable and not.

Sorry your little one was hurt.
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Reply #50 posted 09/20/06 7:27am

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JustErin said:

Like others said, it's normal in the sense that it's all a learning process with children. They are just testing out expressing emotions in different ways. It's up to us as parents to teach them what is acceptable and not.

Sorry your little one was hurt.



He was all right, tough little man. I just got upset at the wet blanket hippy way it was dealt with and the dismissal of the whole scenario as normal behaviour. I even asked them, to make sure, if he had provoked the girl at all, in case WE had a potential problem to deal with.
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Reply #51 posted 09/20/06 7:30am

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"Biting is quite common among toddlers and is a very normal reaction for this age group. Children bite for many reasons. Sometimes they are teething and the biting feels good. Others seem to enjoy the strong reaction they get. Sometimes it starts out as a kiss and just goes too far. Most of the time, though, biting occurs because a child is frustrated and does not know what else to do. For example, the activity may be too difficult for the child. Or there may be too many children for the child to deal with. Or the child may be angry because someone tried to take a toy away. Because the child has not yet learned appropriate words or actions to express his frustration, he resorts to biting."

Can U relate? lol

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Reply #52 posted 09/20/06 7:31am

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When my godson was about one he went to a day care that I thought was questionable...and he was bitten by a little 15-month-old brute named Bryce (which my friends and I started calling "big head Bryce" because of the size of his mellon). The daycare workers didn't even tell my friend that my godson had been bitten...she saw the bite on his hand when she picked him up and asked them about it...they told the parents and they said they'd "have a talk with Bryce." omfg How do you reason with a 15-month-old?


Thats what they said, we talked to her and explained that what she had done was wrong she is about 1 for fucks sake!

Her parents were notified informally! I was expecting at least a letter or something, I dunno. I am new to it all and it seems very alien, I thought I was pretty wise to this crazy world, it appears not. Chainmail babygrow tomorrow!
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Reply #53 posted 09/20/06 8:47am

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it is "normal" yes, with children of that age group

it is however not acceptable

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hope things work out and it stops soon hug
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Reply #54 posted 09/20/06 8:50am

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Mach said:

it is "normal" yes, with children of that age group

it is however not acceptable


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And there it is.

This is a basic issue that too often gets confused these days. Parents and caretakers want to be sensitive to children's feelings and allow them to be who they are naturally. This is wonderful, but we sometimes forget that we also have the very real and very large responsibility of teaching them how to behave in human society with respect and compassion for others. You're not born knowing that it's not okay to draw on other people's property or try to breastfeed from a woman who's not your mother. lol You have to be shown and taught, with equal measures of firmness and gentleness.
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Reply #55 posted 09/20/06 11:40am

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my brother in law has a lovely bite mark on his bicep
in that case i think it was affection that turned into "chomp!!"
i used to call him a little piranah because of how his teeth looked lol

but i think biting is often done out of frustration sad
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Reply #56 posted 09/20/06 11:46am

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It's very normal but most parents don't correct their kid. My mom used to babysit a handful of children and one of them was the daughter of my cousin lisa and that kid went around biting all the other kids. My baby sister was around 2 1/2 at the time and started to bite her back to protect herself but the younger babies couldn't fight back and my cousin Lisa only became concerned about it when it was her daughter getting bit. She tried to blame my little sister but everyone in the house knew and saw with their own eyes that it was Christina who was doing all the biting.

Anyone who does not correct a child who bites is WRONG!
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Reply #57 posted 09/20/06 11:47am

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It's very normal but most parents don't correct their kid. My mom used to babysit a handful of children and one of them was the daughter of my cousin lisa and that kid went around biting all the other kids. My baby sister was around 2 1/2 at the time and started to bite her back to protect herself but the younger babies couldn't fight back and my cousin Lisa only became concerned about it when it was her daughter getting bit. She tried to blame my little sister but everyone in the house knew and saw with their own eyes that it was Christina who was doing all the biting.

Anyone who does not correct a child who bites is WRONG!



I wanna bite YOU!!!!! razz
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Reply #58 posted 09/20/06 11:50am

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minneapolisgenius said:

I have the creepiest stories about some daycare experiences I've had in my life when I was little. One of them is this in a nutshell:

My older sister and I would get dropped off at this daycare place a few blocks from our house in the daytime. It was run from this woman's house, and she had two daughters, one who was about 8 and the other who was around 4.

Anyway, the 4 year old was called "Choppers" because she bit everyone. confused I was around 3 and a half at the time and my sister was about 7. Well, this woman's oldest daughter had broken her leg in a go-cart accident and was all set up in the living room with her leg hanging up in the air in one of those elevation contraptions. lol The woman would make us go to the store and buy her oldest daughter candy and then wrap it up at presents and then give it to her. She made us say, "Janine, you're so pretty" and "Janine, here we got these presents for you." and Janine would just lay there and yell at us from the bed.

So Choppers used to bite everyone and one day she bit me on my inner arm so hard that it broke the skin and bled. When I cried, her mom hit me and said it was my fault anyway. "Why do you think we call her Choppers?!" nutty She also slapped me once when I took too long on the toilet and wouldn't open the door for her.

We didn't tell my mom these stories until about 15 years later actually. hmmm And then I found out that my older sister hated it there so much that she would just leave and go walk around the neighborhood all day. I always wondered where she went. lol The daycare woman never even told my mom that my older sister was leaving every day either. People are crazy.
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I have some crazy ass baby sitter stories too!! Later..... lol
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Reply #59 posted 09/20/06 11:53am

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minneapolisgenius said:

IrresistibleB1tch said:



eek oh man!!


Like I said, those are just a FEW of the stories I could tell. It was a really crazy neighborhod, and I didn't even realize it until I started talking about it with my sisters one day recently and we started trading stories.

Funny because I didn't tell mom any stories either. I think in some way kids just roll with the flow but in other ways I think that you don't want to hurt your parents with bad feelings. There are some things that have happened to me in my life that I have never told my mother and probably never will. I kind of feel like it would give her a feeling like she didn't do a good job or that she didn't do enough to protect me when the reality is that there was really nothing she could do.....
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