luv4all7 said:

You know what. If you're implying that I called you an ugly skank, "in not so many words", you are twisting shit. So, pleeeease, tell me you're not talking about me.

gemini13 said:

No, I was talking about you. Too bad the threads, MIA, or I'd show you.

luv4all7 said:

Barely anyone really defended this girl. Most people just made fun of her.

If the thread showed a picture of a fat person asking the same question most people in here would go apeshit in anger, and I seriously doubt that anyone would be making fun of her.

If you are going to make fun of someone for being too skinny or possibly having an eating disorder, you should also have no problem making fun of someone for being too fat and also possibly having an eating disorder.

luv4all7 said:

But, some of these women who are posted (Nicole Ritchie, Posh) have admitted to having eating disorders and you just said that you think they look great they obviously are extremely sick looking.

You act like you're concerned for people who have a deadly disease, but then you say how beautiful they look when they're that thin.

minneapolisgenius said:

I do think they look good. And I also don't think it's funny to make fun of eating disorders. It is what it is. Thats how I feel. I don't know what more to say.

minneapolisgenius said:[quote]

luv4all7 said:

But, some of these women who are posted (Nicole Ritchie, Posh) have admitted to having eating disorders and you just said that you think they look great they obviously are extremely sick looking.

You act like you're concerned for people who have a deadly disease, but then you say how beautiful they look when they're that thin. [/

exactly...so in other words those folx sound as if they r praising the damn eating disorder

sweet said:[quote]

minneapolisgenius said:

Actually thats being a little unfair - How many guys think the women are hot in the Photos? How many of those same guys would show concern for someone with an eating disorder?


It is the same principle as Luv4all7 said.....

purplerein said:

neither

now give us more word choice options

luv4all7 said:

I didn't make fun of anyone with an eating disorder, other than to say that they look way too thin that way. I just don't understand your logic.

minneapolisgenius said:

i think that IS what perpetuates eating disorders - the fact that, up to a very dire level, many people still find extreme thinness attractive and inadvertently encourage that image. i don't think it's done with any malintent, but with more and more very young children trying to emulate this, we need to be extra vigilent to teach our children about health and well-being over looks.
[Edited 9/19/06 13:18pm]

IrresistibleB1tch said:

I agree. I actually used to think like this, because as dancer, you just do. I used to think there was no such thing as too thin. For a past few years though, my thinking changed for some reason. Not sure why though.

JustErin said:

Well, actually, there are a couple of pics of obese men and women that get posted here relatively frequently as jokes (one is a naked, morbidly obese guy in front of his computer and the other is a morbidly obese woman in lingerie). Usually, it's been to imply that an orger looks like that behind his/her computer.

I think that because it's an extreme--not someone just overweight or chubby--no one goes "apeshit" defending those in the pictures. Similarly, I think the reason there are jokes about this particular woman is because she's the opposite extreme--again, an EXTREME.

Either extreme tends to draw nasty comments and jokes, I've noticed.

AnotherLoverToo said:

I've never seen anyone post pics like that. I guess I missed those.

I just think one is being a hypocrite when they make fun of (or laugh along with) one extreme and then get upset when they see others making fun of the other extreme.

JustErin said:

Where have you seen people get upset over/defend depictions of morbid obesity here?

IrresistibleB1tch said:

In some cases that perpetuates eating disorders. But a lot of eating disorders actually have nothing to do (in the begining) with body image, so much. But you're rite. We do need to be careful with our children in that aspect.

AnotherLoverToo said:

I've seen it in several threads. Not that they were responding to posted pictures, just to people's attitudes towards people who were obese.

luv4all7 said:

i agree, anorexia and bulimia are often issues of control, or the person's perceived lack of control.

IrresistibleB1tch said:

EXCACTLY.

myownprivateinsanity said:

RITE RITE RITE.

Look, if someone has an eating disorder, NOTHING I or ANYONE else says is gonna change that. NOTHING. If your in your in. Someone telling you you look good OR bad is NOT gonna make one bit of a difference.

JustErin said:

I recall people defending being somewhat overweight, of how there are reasons other than laziness and overeating involved in being overweight--NOT morbidly obese, though, they still exercised and were active.

I hear you, though--there should be thoughtfullness on both sides. Perhaps it's still lopsided because the ultra skinny can still be portrayed as beautiful by the media and still be considered sexually attractive vs. how a morbidly obese person is portrayed ("lazy", "no will-power", "disgusting").

JustErin said:

They are actually posted quite frequently...and even the context in which the photos are taken is telling of the difference...this excruciatingly thin model is doing just that...modeling...and it looks like she's on a stage of somekind...presumably in a fashion show. They other photos ALT mentioned (which have been posted several times...including one of an overweight boy laughing) are not pics of obese people on a catwalk modeling high fashions...do you know why? Because they can't...it's not accepted.
It isn't nice to make fun of either extreme...but, you can't deny that one is accepted and considered "sexy" in many circles while the other isn't.

luv4all7 said:

i'm not sure it's that black or white. it's often a combination of both, and the one thing we do control is our reaction to somebody with an eating disorder, as well as how we interpret eating disorders to our kids.

IrresistibleB1tch said:

Absolutely, I agree, as far as the kids are concerned. We need to be extremley careful of how we talk about body images.
I'm saying for those who have eating disorders.
It's like cancer or alcoholism. They never REALLY go away. You can go into remission for a little while. But when you least expect it, they come back to bite you in the ass. And someone saying, Oh you look great the way you are, isn't gonna make a difference.

luv4all7 said:

i have to say this much

my anorexia REALLY went away

and my husbands cancer ... REALLY went away


never say never

Mach said:

Awesome

and

Awesome

Your rite. I didn't mean every case.

applekisses said:

Sorry, but I don't see how one being more acceptable to many has anything to do with what I said.

I never saw the ones you are talking about, however, I do remember a special olympics one.

Mach said:

I always thought "Mach" was a Man (If there was a Blush or 'I feel a right wally' Emoticon it would be here )

Much love for you both on overcoming those problems -

Mach said:

same here...

JustErin said:

I think it has to do with a backlash.

There was an article on the GMTV news this morning about how Children as young as 7 Years old knowing about Calorie counting / laxatives etc, how they are being "Brainwashed" by images such as the one shown in this thread amongst many others, Every glossy magazine / Fashion Show / Media focusing on how some celebrity looks like a character from a Lowry painting and its ok to do that.....