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Reply #120 posted 09/19/06 8:33pm

heartbeatocean

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Spats said:

There is no woman that lovable.


This statement does not reflect a reality that women are not loveable, but rather your inability to love. Love is infinite. It is found in the one who loves, not the object of love.
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Reply #121 posted 09/19/06 8:39pm

Spats

heartbeatocean said:

Spats said:

There is no woman that lovable.


This statement does not reflect a reality that women are not loveable, but rather your inability to love. Love is infinite. It is found in the one who loves, not the object of love.



I am able to love. Just hard finding a woman worth loving.
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Reply #122 posted 09/19/06 8:42pm

Spats

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7ellusion said:





WOW,hold on...help me out here, why is marrige not for independant people? confuse


Because you are dependant on another person for almost everything. An independant person does not need a "partner". You have to answer to that "partner" or consult with that "Partner" on everything. No independance is involved.



Ya see i have a girlfriend but i am still independant as hell. What the hell do i rely on her for other than helping me with my computer?? lol lol lol I do what i wanna do, when i wanna do it, for as long as i want to do it. I don't have tell her what i am doing or when i am doing it, blah, blah, blah. I don't even have to talk to her every day.
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Reply #123 posted 09/19/06 9:06pm

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Spats said:

Spats said:



Because you are dependant on another person for almost everything. An independant person does not need a "partner". You have to answer to that "partner" or consult with that "Partner" on everything. No independance is involved.



Ya see i have a girlfriend but i am still independant as hell. What the hell do i rely on her for other than helping me with my computer?? lol lol lol I do what i wanna do, when i wanna do it, for as long as i want to do it. I don't have tell her what i am doing or when i am doing it, blah, blah, blah. I don't even have to talk to her every day.




okay your first comment is narrow minded...your second, is a reflection on you and it's not a good one because what you're actually saying is that you're only concerned about yourself which simply means you're selfish and being selfish is not the same as being independent.
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Reply #124 posted 09/19/06 9:16pm

Spats

7ellusion said:

Spats said:




Ya see i have a girlfriend but i am still independant as hell. What the hell do i rely on her for other than helping me with my computer?? lol lol lol I do what i wanna do, when i wanna do it, for as long as i want to do it. I don't have tell her what i am doing or when i am doing it, blah, blah, blah. I don't even have to talk to her every day.




okay your first comment is narrow minded...your second, is a reflection on you and it's not a good one because what you're actually saying is that you're only concerned about yourself which simply means you're selfish and being selfish is not the same as being independent.



I think it is being independant. Because i don't depend on her for anything and i don't have to answer to her or consult with her on anything.

What is the narrow minded comment?
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Reply #125 posted 09/19/06 9:23pm

xplnyrslf

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brownsugar said:

hmmm i dont know. for a while i've been really cynical about it. i like the idea of it i guess but i dont like the finality of it-not that i would want many partners for the rest of my life. being with just one person for a long time without getting married kind of appeals to me more. besides i need an extreme amount of space and its something that i think may be hard for some to deal with. if my husband could have his own apartment for when he pisses me off or when i just want my space then that would be great lol


You made a couple good points. Marriage is not for independant people. And the thought of being with one person forever is depressing. There is no woman that lovable. Closing off your options in life is not good.


Wellll I'm sure with your attitude towards women, you've got alot of options Spats.
Marriage begins with loving another enough to want to spend the rest of your life with that person. Not everyone is capable of this and shouldn't ever get married. (Even divorced couples start out with a level of optimism and faith)
There are legal protections, joint property, medical issues, etc which have been mentioned.
There's a mature understanding of the fact, we're not perfect, and are willling to stay committed in good and bad times.
Marriage isn't cookie cutter. I know a couple with children who are "Swingers".
Works for them.(god only knows how)

Since there seems to be a "why commit to a ring" flair, I have an unfortunate statement affecting women. In my career, successful professional men who have live-in relationships with women, TRADE UP after 7-10 years and find younger stuff. All that time and commitment with nothing to show. Common law exists in some states but I wouldn't rely on it.
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Reply #126 posted 09/19/06 10:46pm

Spats

xplnyrslf said:

Spats said:



You made a couple good points. Marriage is not for independant people. And the thought of being with one person forever is depressing. There is no woman that lovable. Closing off your options in life is not good.


Wellll I'm sure with your attitude towards women, you've got alot of options Spats.
Marriage begins with loving another enough to want to spend the rest of your life with that person. Not everyone is capable of this and shouldn't ever get married. (Even divorced couples start out with a level of optimism and faith)
There are legal protections, joint property, medical issues, etc which have been mentioned.
There's a mature understanding of the fact, we're not perfect, and are willling to stay committed in good and bad times.
Marriage isn't cookie cutter. I know a couple with children who are "Swingers".
Works for them.(god only knows how)

Since there seems to be a "why commit to a ring" flair, I have an unfortunate statement affecting women. In my career, successful professional men who have live-in relationships with women, TRADE UP after 7-10 years and find younger stuff. All that time and commitment with nothing to show. Common law exists in some states but I wouldn't rely on it.
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You can spend the rest of your life with someone without getting married. My attitude toward women is just a realistc one.
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Reply #127 posted 09/20/06 5:24am

heartbeatocean

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Spats said:

heartbeatocean said:



This statement does not reflect a reality that women are not loveable, but rather your inability to love. Love is infinite. It is found in the one who loves, not the object of love.



I am able to love. Just hard finding a woman worth loving.
[Edited 9/19/06 21:13pm]


It's true you seem to have a healthy love for yourself. Which is not a bad thing.
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Reply #128 posted 09/27/06 10:01am

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I don't get the question, but here goes a shot at the answer. lol

I got married cuz it seemed like it was the rite time in my life to settle down. The actual "choosing" of the guy I married. Ahhhhh BAD choice.

I'm STILL married cuz I have two babies to raise and I don't have a job and my husband pays the mortgage.


Sounds like self-induced PRISON to me.....GET OUT IF YOU ARE NOT HAPPY. You have choices.

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Reply #129 posted 09/27/06 10:12am

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Spats said:

People get married because they are afraid of being alone. Insecurity. That's pretty much it. And women for whatever reason dream about when they are little girls.

Getting married is pointless because there is nothing you can do married than you cannot do unmarried. Sorry to break that to all the married people.



This is my point exactly.....but people still marry....why?
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Reply #130 posted 09/27/06 10:14am

Spats

DexMSR said:

Spats said:

People get married because they are afraid of being alone. Insecurity. That's pretty much it. And women for whatever reason dream about when they are little girls.

Getting married is pointless because there is nothing you can do married than you cannot do unmarried. Sorry to break that to all the married people.



This is my point exactly.....but people still marry....why?



Because since they were young girls women have dreamed of the fairytale wedding. To be proposed to, the stupid looking gowns and silly ass ceremony. I don't know why little girls dream of that though.
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Reply #131 posted 09/27/06 10:22am

DexMSR

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Spats said:

bluesbaby said:




Whew, I am glad all we married folk have Spats to break information to us, because we certainly could not think on our own, or act on our own, or make decisions without his sound advice and counsel on relationships. I am off to tell my husband that I only married him because I didn't want to be lonely! I am sure that will be of great comfort to him.



Joke all you want. But there is some insecurity there and they think marriage will correct that. Marriage is just a waste of money.


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Reply #132 posted 09/27/06 10:28am

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Spats said:

DexMSR said:


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This is my point exactly.....but people still marry....why?



Because since they were young girls women have dreamed of the fairytale wedding. To be proposed to, the stupid looking gowns and silly ass ceremony. I don't know why little girls dream of that though.



Media/Religions/Society/Shepherds...LOL

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Reply #133 posted 09/27/06 10:33am

TMPletz

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I think it is being independant. Because i don't depend on her for anything and i don't have to answer to her or consult with her on anything.

....and look how that attitude has probably made her DROP your ass.

http://www.prince.org/msg/100/203493
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Reply #134 posted 09/27/06 10:37am

Spats

TMPletz said:

Spats said:

I think it is being independant. Because i don't depend on her for anything and i don't have to answer to her or consult with her on anything.

....and look how that attitude has probably made her DROP your ass.

http://www.prince.org/msg/100/203493



Well being independant is the best way to live.
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Reply #135 posted 09/27/06 10:38am

TMPletz

Spats said:

TMPletz said:


....and look how that attitude has probably made her DROP your ass.

http://www.prince.org/msg/100/203493



Well being independant is the best way to live.

Even if it means no "sacktime" for you?
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