Bad tippers should be aware the next time they stiff a server on a tip -- waiters are keeping a list.

In some states, restaurant servers only make $2 or $3 an hour, depending on tips to make a living, NBC5 reported on Wednesday.
Some waiters say they'll confront customers who stiff them on the check. Others are creating Web sites that list bad tippers.

Actress Sandra Bernhard is listed on one Web site. She reportedly failed to tip on a $120 complimentary dinner.


Dang!!!

Well, I always try to tip 15%, but that's based on service. I might slide it down to 10% for mediocre service, and I'm not too object to not leaving a tip if the service sucks....

i love the tippers hall of shame idea! i've always wanted to start a web site listing toxic job environments, so that when someone's looking for a new job, they'll know where to steer clear of. information is power!

Anx said:

For sure!

But maybe I like it so much as I pride myself on being a regularly good tipper.

If the service as bad enough that I don't want to leave a tip or tip really, really poorly, I talk to the manager to tell them why, so they know it was for a reason. I stopped going to one of my fave restaurants for over a year because of bad service once.

I wouldn't eat in a place which didn't have service included in the prices. It's tantamount to slavery.

I always do 20% unless i really felt like they sucked or it took forever to get drink refills.

Anx said:

There was a site somewhat similar: www.fuckthatjob.com

Yep, the first thing a server does when they get screwed out of a tip is go complain to the other servers what just happened, and point you out to them.

Tom said:

yup. when i was a waiter we had "regulars" who were bad tippers, and we'd always try to find reasons why we wouldn't have to wait on them. they were always lowest on the priority list when it was busy.

OH
my
GOD!!!

I can't believe Sandra Bernhard is that fucking tacky!!!

CalhounSq said:

oh, i can. she's still got a fair amount of arch pissy diva queen in her, despite all her "enlightened" views and spirituality, etc.

They need to change the wages for waiters there, imo
It's bs that tipping is considered obligatory
[Edited 9/15/06 9:46am]

Dewrede said:

http://www.bitterwaitress.com/std/

Anx said:

She's enlightened?

The problem with this is anyone can put anyone on the list for ANY reason. I read recently where someone was suing a waiter for libel for this very reason

Anx said:

The chicken or the egg? Are they not good tippers because of the bad service?

Revolution said:

if you've ever been a waiter, then you know you can give kickass service and still get a lousy tip. or worse, you'll get a "verbal tip" ("oh, you were such a good waiter, and so funny and cute!") and a coupla dimes and some pocket lint is all you get for it.

look, the bottom line is this:

a lot of people think the concept of tipping is ridiculous. well, okay. that's a valid opinion. but it exists, so either try to start some grassroots campaign to ban tipping or else shut up and deal with it.

until an alternative to tipping is put into practice, it's a part of dining out, at least in america. tipping is how waiters, bartenders, barbacks, bussers, etc., make a living. when they do their job well and you don't tip them well, you're wasting their time and putting a dent in their livelihood.

waiters don't do what they do because they "owe" you something. it's 50/50. they take care of you and you take care of them. PERIOD.

if you can't afford to tip, or if you think tipping is a waste of your money, here's an idea: DON'T GO OUT. you don't have to tip your damn oven. plus, seriously, the food you cook yourself will most likely be cheaper and healthier than what you'd get in a restaurant. PLUS, you don't have to worry about people spitting in your food because everyone knows you're such a damn cheapskate!

and i put my money where my mouth is - if i don't feel like i have the money to leave a decent tip, i stay home and i cook. and i've gotten into the habit of cooking, and i quite enjoy what i make. and YES, it SAVES MONEY. for the price of one night out at a restaurant, i could probably buy ingredients for three nights' dinners at home.

so if tipping really bugs you THAT MUCH, stay at home. learn to cook. have people over for dinner. wow them with your culinary skills. it'll end up being easier on everyone's karma in the long run.

and ANOTHER THING!!!

people who are rude to cabbies: KNOCK IT THE F*CK OFF.

that means NO middle eastern ethnic jokes, NO bitching cuz they didn't take the route you wanted when you didn't even mention it to them in the first place, NO drunken ranting and goddammit, TIP THEIR ASSES!!!!

Tom said:

Where do I sign up??

Oh dear, I see this thread going into the realms of CarrieLee's the other day.

Batten down the hatches...

Anx said:

Were you a cabbie as well, Anx??

I can see you doing the funny stories thing, driving around all day.

"I had Anx in the front of my cab the other day..."

(That actually sounds like a fantastic idea... I should learn to drive... )
[Edited 9/16/06 6:12am]

senik said:

onenitealone said:

no, i've never been a cabbie, but i've been on too many cab rides with friends for whom i had tons of respect until i witnessed how they treated cab drivers. that shit just isn't acceptable.
[Edited 9/16/06 9:43am]

Anx said:

Agreed. I can't stand that either - or when people are rude to anyone who works in any sector of the service industry. It's just embarrassing to be around. People had manners once upon a time.

Anx said:

endorphin74 said:

what? you've always been nice to cabbies whenever i've been around, even when we're all drunkenly singing billy ocean songs.

Anx said:

whew!

I was gonna say, my tip for cabbies is often a direct reflection of the drunken antics in the car. The drunker and sillier we are, the larger the tip.

endorphin74 said:

no, i'm talking more about people being belligerent, antagonistic, offensive, racist, etc., when dealing with cabbies. drunken sillies are merely a minor occupational hazard, i think. something to keep the cabbies awake in the wee hours.