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Thread started 08/31/06 8:16am

sextonseven

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Porno tales of Alice in Wonderland, Peter Pan's Wendy and Dorothy from Oz

It's the latest graphic novel from British writer Alan Moore. Supposedly the three girls meet as adults and tell one another about their sexual experiences. From USA Today:

Writer prefers porn label for his 'Girls'

By David Colton, USA TODAY

Readers may gasp, but Alan Moore is unashamed of his latest work.

The controversial Englishman, who revolutionized comic books in the 1980s and has been battling publishers and Hollywood ever since, had the chance in an interview to describe his latest book as "erotica." He decided instead to call it "pornography."

"It's not a bad pre-emptive move," Moore, 52, said from his home in Northampton, England. "People were obviously going to say that this is not art, this is pornography. It just seemed more honest to get that debate over right from the start."

For most readers, it won't be much of a debate. In The Lost Girls, an oversized, pricey ($75) and very graphic novel, Moore and artist Melinda Gebbie (his fiancée) imagine the X-rated escapades of three of the world's most beloved storybook heroines: Wendy from Peter Pan, Dorothy from The Wizard of Oz and Lewis Carroll's Alice.

The intelligent writing, intricate plotlines and gorgeous Victorian-style art soften the impact a bit, but make no mistake: The girls cavort in ways most inappropriate for children.

Even more disconcerting may be the timing. Just as his anti-fascist graphic novel of the 1980s, V for Vendetta, ran up against the reality of 9/11 when it was released as a movie, so too does The Lost Girls feel vaguely creepy in the shadow of child-murder cases such as JonBenét Ramsey.

"Obviously the JonBenét case is bigger in the U.S., but we've been following it here in England," Moore says. "Remember, we began writing these stories 16 years ago. We had no idea when we were going to have it finished, or what kind of world it would be emerging into. But we are not talking about reality.

"Our position is this is art and pornography. What we intended with The Lost Girls was to sever the connection between pornography and embarrassment, and between the pornographic imagination and the real world. These are two very distinctive spaces."

As for the three heroines, "as soon as we had those three names, those three women, we realized what an electrifying combination it was."

The graphic novel from Top Shelf Productions represents Moore's latest break with mainstream comics publishers and with DC Comics in particular, where he jolted the comics world with Watchmen and a dramatic updating of Batman in The Killing Joke. Three of his works —From Hell, The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and V for Vendetta— have been made into films, and he has disavowed them all. On Vendetta, he went so far as to take his name off the credits.

"My comics make better comic books than they do films," he says.

As for DC, after this fall's hardcover League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: Black Dossier, Moore says he'll be done, citing a series of disputes over control of his characters and his writings.

DC Comics publisher Paul Levitz, asked about the relationship, said: "We only want to say how much we respect him and love him. We wish him well."

http://www.usatoday.com/l...oore_x.htm
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Reply #1 posted 08/31/06 8:19am

Finess

lol im not surprised at Alice tho' she smoked a hookah dropped some good acid and fell into the rabbit hole, so it aint surprisin' trust me smile
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Reply #2 posted 08/31/06 8:38am

susannah

pissed
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Reply #3 posted 08/31/06 8:40am

Finess

i fuckin Love Alan Moore smile yesssss
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Reply #4 posted 08/31/06 8:41am

CarrieMpls

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If folks can't tell the difference between reality and fantasy, they've got a problem.
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Reply #5 posted 08/31/06 8:42am

Finess

CarrieMpls said:

If folks can't tell the difference between reality and fantasy, they've got a problem.



you hit the nail right on the head, shit Moore made me a Vertigo Fan boy smile
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Reply #6 posted 08/31/06 8:47am

susannah

confused

I just want you all to know that I couldnt care less about the porn aspect, what I was annoyed about is, well, I just get annoyed when people misuse the name Alice!

I was teased enough about it already! neutral
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Reply #7 posted 08/31/06 8:50am

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susannah said:

confused

I just want you all to know that I couldnt care less about the porn aspect, what I was annoyed about is, well, I just get annoyed when people misuse the name Alice!

I was teased enough about it already! neutral


lol

I love the name Alice! I've told you that before. My mom's name is Alice. If I ever have a girl I think I'd name her Alice.
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Reply #8 posted 08/31/06 9:52am

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I really want to read this, but $75 is a lot of money to be spending on porn. I'm gonna have to think about it.
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Reply #9 posted 08/31/06 11:22am

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I want that drool


But yeah $75.00 is steep.

sad
In spite of the cost of living, it's still popular.
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Reply #10 posted 08/31/06 11:47am

sextonseven

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This is what it looks like:





That's some high quality porn right there. razz
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Reply #11 posted 08/31/06 11:58am

Sweeny79

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I so want that!!!


I wore the shit out of my copies of The Erotic Adventures of Sleeping Beauty.

Maybe I'll find it cheaper somewhere else.
In spite of the cost of living, it's still popular.
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Reply #12 posted 08/31/06 12:05pm

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The man is a genius. I think in 100 years' time, he will be properly recognised as one of the greatest authors of the 20th century.
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Reply #13 posted 08/31/06 12:16pm

jerseykrs

Justin1972UK said:

The man is a genius. I think in 100 years' time, he will be properly recognised as one of the greatest authors of the 20th century.



I wholeheartedly agree. The man is genius.
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Reply #14 posted 08/31/06 3:10pm

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jerseykrs said:

Justin1972UK said:

The man is a genius. I think in 100 years' time, he will be properly recognised as one of the greatest authors of the 20th century.



I wholeheartedly agree. The man is genius.


I have to read more of his stuff--even reread the stuff I already have. It's been years since I've last read Watchmen. And both volumes of League of Extraordinary Gentlemen are fantastic.
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Reply #15 posted 08/31/06 3:12pm

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sextonseven said:

jerseykrs said:




I wholeheartedly agree. The man is genius.


I have to read more of his stuff--even reread the stuff I already have. It's been years since I've last read Watchmen. And both volumes of League of Extraordinary Gentlemen are fantastic.



If you can, read "From Hell" It's one of my favorite reads. SOooooo much better than the stupid movie.
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Reply #16 posted 08/31/06 3:16pm

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jerseykrs said:

sextonseven said:



I have to read more of his stuff--even reread the stuff I already have. It's been years since I've last read Watchmen. And both volumes of League of Extraordinary Gentlemen are fantastic.



If you can, read "From Hell" It's one of my favorite reads. SOooooo much better than the stupid movie.


That's been sitting in my must read pile for almost ten years now. boxed

And I liked the movie, but that might be because I never read the series.
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Reply #17 posted 08/31/06 3:18pm

thesexofit

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So what is this? Is this fairytale erotica?
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Reply #18 posted 08/31/06 3:19pm

sextonseven

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thesexofit said:

So what is this? Is this fairytale erotica?


Explicit comics. razz
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Reply #19 posted 08/31/06 3:20pm

jerseykrs

sextonseven said:

jerseykrs said:




If you can, read "From Hell" It's one of my favorite reads. SOooooo much better than the stupid movie.


That's been sitting in my must read pile for almost ten years now. boxed

And I liked the movie, but that might be because I never read the series.


Do yourself a favor and get the read them ASAP and tell me I'm right. Love Alan Moore. woot!
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Reply #20 posted 08/31/06 3:21pm

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sextonseven said:

thesexofit said:

So what is this? Is this fairytale erotica?


Explicit comics. razz



I bet Gary glitter loves those books
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Reply #21 posted 08/31/06 3:25pm

sextonseven

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jerseykrs said:

sextonseven said:



That's been sitting in my must read pile for almost ten years now. boxed

And I liked the movie, but that might be because I never read the series.


Do yourself a favor and get the read them ASAP and tell me I'm right. Love Alan Moore. woot!


I'll move it to the top of the must read pile--even ahead of Neil Gaiman's 1602 and Alex Ross' Earth X/Universe X/Paradise X.
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Reply #22 posted 08/31/06 3:29pm

jerseykrs

sextonseven said:

jerseykrs said:



Do yourself a favor and get the read them ASAP and tell me I'm right. Love Alan Moore. woot!


I'll move it to the top of the must read pile--even ahead of Neil Gaiman's 1602 and Alex Ross' Earth X/Universe X/Paradise X.



drool

God, I'm a fucking comic dork. disbelief giggle
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